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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / April 2007Building a massive website, looking for effects.
I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade in, or out using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to accomplish this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE. Mike > I was wondering if there is a way to make some of the pages fade in, or out > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to accomplish > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. and they are massively annoying | You use a Meta tag, but why bother? They only work in IE. | [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | > using publisher? I have tried searching using specific terms to accomplish | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then use something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static sites, but not a "massive" site with lots of "effects". DavidF > and they are massively annoying > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, > thanks. like totally dood. | And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then use | something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static sites, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] | > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, | > thanks. If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can be converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have experience writing HTML, I am doing the equivalent of websites for dummies. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. And more infor so the advice can be applicable. I am building an approximately 60 page informational website. There will be resources for each state, governmental links, literature, statistics, links to other nonprofits, and the reason I am doing this myself instead of someone else is because I am attempting to launch my own nonprofit, and this is the first step. Thanks again. > And in addition K.I.S.S. If you are building a "massive" website, then use > something other than Publisher. It is fine for small, simple static sites, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, > > thanks. Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage (which is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch.  SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 > If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can be > converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have experience [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, >> > thanks. I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the work already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this for me. I am on my own here, and I am not too familiar with Front Page. Publisher seems more simplistic, but you get what you pay for as far as quality goes. I do want something professional looking without paying for it. I suppose if need be I can send what I have for someone more experienced than I to comment on. > Actually, if you have a Publisher website and want to use FrontPage (which > is no longer sold) instead, it's usually better to start from scratch. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, > >> > thanks. We all want professional results for little cost but we also know that it rarely ever works that way. If you're serious about making this site, get Expressions Web (FrontPage's replacement) and learn how to use it. If time is an issue, you may have to consider paying someone to do it for you. I know this isn't the answer you wanted and for that I'm sorry but it's an honest response. SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 >I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the >work [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >> > appreciated, >> >> > thanks. Thanks much. One last thing. I am certain you have worked with this product, and was curious if the file I have built already can be converted, or imported to work with this product? Thanks again. > We all want professional results for little cost but we also know that it > rarely ever works that way. [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > >> >> > appreciated, > >> >> > thanks. No converting. Start from scratch. You can try copy and paste but absolutely no promises about what that will yield. SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 > Thanks much. One last thing. I am certain you have worked with this > product, [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] >> >> >> > appreciated, >> >> >> > thanks. Publisher creates goofy html...it's not convertable; you'll need to start over. | Thanks much. One last thing. I am certain you have worked with this product, | and was curious if the file I have built already can be converted, or [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] | > >> >> > appreciated, | > >> >> > thanks. Let me suggest two alternatives to MS Programs (Pub, Front Page or Expressions) - Nvu, which is free or WebPlus, which is $79. WP is a lot like Pub, in that it is WYSIWYG, has wizards to handle forms, easily creates links, yada, yada, yada. You can use Master Pages (as many as you want) to hold recurring graphics or text, automatically generate Navigation Bars, easily upload your pages and even import sites (success may vary). It does not come with a free trial but it does have a money-back guarantee, plus there is excellent support, both from users and the programmers themselves, via a forum and a NG; the forum address is http://www.serif.com/forum/default.asp I'm personally not a huge fan of massive web sites, but I have built one of over 100 pages. These days, I tend to break the site up into related sections. If you have any questions, you can e-mail me or visit the forum. (sorry about the ad, but if someone is looking to switch programs, they might as well know all the options!) Mike > I am just trying to conserve time and energy as I have done much of the work > already, and cannot afford to pay a bundle for someone to design this for me. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>>>>| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, >>>>>thanks. Seems intuitive that you should be able to import a Publisher website into FrontPage another MSFT product, but the code is way too different. If you do choose to rebuild however, you can copy and paste many of your design elements into the other program, and at least now you have an idea of how you would like to lay it out...that will save you time. I would tend to agree with Mike about looking at http://www.nvu.com/index.php , especially if you are on a budget. Yes, you will have to rebuild, but you won't have to face outgrowing the program capability. Web Expression replaces FrontPage this year, but it is expensive, and I personally never buy the first year with a new product...to many bugs. As you stated that your site is mostly informational, you could use Publisher, but the larger the site the harder it is to manage with Publisher. As to "effects"...they should probably be avoided initially anyway. There is always the temptation to add too many bells and whistles and fluff...just cuz you can. Think about Google....can't get much simpler than that home page. If you want to pursue Publisher, you should seriously think about building your site with multiple Publisher files. Break your site up and it will be easier to manage. Read through the posts in this newsgroup, or at least scan them and you will get a sense of what you can...and cannot do in Publisher. Also here are more references: Using Publisher for web sites: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80566.aspx Establish a Web presence with Publisher http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA010967061033.aspx?pid=CH010938711033 Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx Publisher web publication forms 101: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80564.aspx Uploading articles: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx (Personally, I find it easier to create subfolders to hold the HTML output from each Publisher file. And don't get me wrong...I use Publisher to produce sites larger than what you are proposing, but I would not recommend it if I was just starting.) And finally, perhaps take a step back and think through what you want to do, and what your goals are. Too many people jump into web building without adequate planning, and end up with a lot of frustration and extra expense and time. Here is a pretty good general article that might be one of the first you should read. Your complete guide to web design: http://www.webdesignfromscratch.com/ DavidF > If I am not mistaken though, most microsoft products like publisher can be > converted to other programs like Front Page, and I do not have experience [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> > | > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, >> > thanks. David, The only problem I've seen with Nvu is that it's not like a DTP program where one can place an object anyplace on the page and move it wherever one wants. I admit, I haven't used it that much, but it reminds me a lot of MS Word, albeit on steroids and with more bells and whistles. Good clean code, adjusts to the browser size, wizards to help with common tasks. If one is use to using Word to layout designs, Nvu should be fairly easy to pick up. But if one is use to Pub, it will take a while to become efficient. Mike > Seems intuitive that you should be able to import a Publisher website into > FrontPage another MSFT product, but the code is way too different. If you do [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] >>>>| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, >>>>thanks. Hi Mike, I imagine you are correct that it might be easier to transition from Publisher to WebPlus. I can't say which would be easier or the better choice for the OP, but I certainly like the price of Nvu ;-) DavidF > David, > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] >>>>>| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, >>>>>thanks. WebPlus 6 is free. | Hi Mike, | [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] | >> | >> Establish a Web presence with Publisher http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA010967061033.aspx?pid=CH010938711033 | >> Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site: | >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] | >>>>>| > this, and have come up empty handed. Any help would be appreciated, | >>>>>thanks. Rob, And I think that's about what it is worth. Well, except that if one downloads and registers it, they can qualify for an upgrade price. IIRC, it was basically the same program as PP7 or 8 with a couple of web features thrown in. Mike > WebPlus 6 is free. > [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] > appreciated, > | >>>>>thanks. I've never really used it. I've used their other free stuff though and it's decent. | Rob, | [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] | > | >> | > | >> Establish a Web presence with Publisher http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA010967061033.aspx?pid=CH010938711033 | > | >> Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site: | > | >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] | > appreciated, | > | >>>>>thanks. |
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