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Troy - 29 Apr 2007 14:24 GMT In GoDaddy's free webhosting, their ads appear as a strip accross the top of the customer's website. Having created a simple website in Publisher, however, my sites appear, instead, to the RIGHT of (and offscreen, until the viewer scrolls right) this strip of advertising.
I have been told this is because of the way Publisher treats frames, and that I should set the frame pixels to a fixed number, rather than a percentage.
Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements?
DavidF - 29 Apr 2007 14:33 GMT This issue has come up before. Because Publisher pages use absolute positioning, they do not work under the GoDaddy framed free hosting. There has been no workaround found. Sorry.
DavidF
> In GoDaddy's free webhosting, their ads appear as a strip accross the top > of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 29 Apr 2007 18:44 GMT David - I found this workaround that seems to work pretty well:
Instructions for publishing to an ad-supported free web site through GoDaddy using MS Publisher
1. Publish website to folder on local computer first 2. Open “index.html” in browser window 3. Under the “Page” pulldown menu, select “View Source.” This displays a .txt file, showing the html code. 4. Using find & replace (under the “edit” menu), search for the first instance of the word, “absolute” in the html code, and replace it with the word “relative.” 5. This process must be repeated for each page individually, by navigating to each locally-published page from within a web browser, viewing the source html code, replacing the first instance of “absolute” with “relative,” then saving the file before navigating to the next page. 6. Once finished making changes, the locally saved “index.htm” file and accompanying folder must be copied and pasted, via ftp client to your GoDaddy website, and “voila,” you should be up and running!
> This issue has come up before. Because Publisher pages use absolute > positioning, they do not work under the GoDaddy framed free hosting. There [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Don Schmidt - 29 Apr 2007 18:52 GMT Troy,
This sounds like the program ReplaceInFiles would be of great benefit. I use it with my Publisher 2000 websites to center the page.
http://www.emurasoft.com/index.htm
 Signature Don Quid pro quo.
> David - I found this workaround that seems to work pretty well: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> > will >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 29 Apr 2007 19:08 GMT Thanks, Don... I looked at it, and it does seem very useful for batch processing the find & replace command accross many files. In this case, however it may be of limited use, since my intent is to replace only the first occurrence of a word in each file, rather than all occurrences (which will cause the web pages to display incorrectly).
Thanks for the tip, however.
Best wishes, Troy
> Troy, > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> > will > >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? DavidF - 29 Apr 2007 20:49 GMT Troy,
That is terrific that you found a workaround! I will make note of it for the next time someone asks this question. I wish every time I had to tell someone that their was no workaround, they would do as you did...find one, and post back ;-)
I do have a question. You said that you are opening the "index.html" file, and editing. Does this mean you are using Publisher 2000? Pub 2002 and newer default to "index.htm", and use a different html coding engine than Pub 2000.
FWIW if you are using Pub 2000, and do eventually decide to "upgrade" to a new version of Publisher, keep Pub 2000 for your web work. The coding engine works better...not to argue that it is the best program for web building...just the best version of Publisher.
DavidF
> David - I found this workaround that seems to work pretty well: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> > will >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 29 Apr 2007 22:54 GMT I was pretty proud of myself, actually -- this being my first try at posting my own website & being ignorant of html -- it was a combination of luck and your tip that it had to do with publisher's "absolute" positioning that led to the answer.
Now, to answer your questions - firstly, I'm using Publisher 2003. I imagine you could probably make the code changes from within publisher, but not knowing how to do that, I edited the html from my web browser (IE 7), using the "Page" pulldown menu (next to the "Tools" menu), then selecting "View Source." This opens a new window that displays editable html for whatever page you are viewing. The main drawback is that, depending on the number of pages on your website, the process may be tedious. Aside from that, the process seems to solve the issue.
> Troy, > [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > >> > will > >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? DavidF - 29 Apr 2007 23:08 GMT Troy,
Thanks again.
As it turns out, when I did test your approach with a Pub 2000 file, it didn't work...the code is different, and there is no "absolute" in the code to change. But as most people are using newer versions of Publisher these days, your workaround will help them.
DavidF
>I was pretty proud of myself, actually -- this being my first try at >posting [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] >> >> > will >> >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 30 Apr 2007 17:02 GMT Drat!... I'm beginning to believe the best "workaround" will be to pay for web hosting! Sorry that didn't work. I imagine there will still be an html answer somewhere in all this, but at some point, the returns seem to be diminishing.
Best wishes, Troy
> Troy, > [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > >> >> > will > >> >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? DavidF - 30 Apr 2007 20:24 GMT No biggy. As I said, most people don't use Pub 2000 anymore...I am just a holdout ;-). I do think that after you edit the code each time you upload for every page, you will eventually want to move to paid hosting. It just won't be worth the hassle if you update your site very often.
DavidF
> Drat!... I'm beginning to believe the best "workaround" will be to pay for > web hosting! Sorry that didn't work. I imagine there will still be an html [quoted text clipped - 131 lines] >> >> >> > will >> >> >> > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Rob Giordano (Crash) - 30 Apr 2007 02:51 GMT Interesting. What happens when you make a change (any other change) to your web and re-Publish...do your manual changes "stick"?
| David - I found this workaround that seems to work pretty well: | [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | to each locally-published page from within a web browser, viewing the source | html code, replacing the first instance of "absolute" with "relative," then
| saving the file before navigating to the next page. | 6. Once finished making changes, the locally saved "index.htm" file and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | > > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will | > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 30 Apr 2007 11:48 GMT I'm afraid the changes must be reaccomplished each time the site is published from MS Publisher, since publisher will always use the default absolute positioning. All of this, of course, makes for a clunky workaround.
Still, it's useful for low-budget projects because the webhosting is free, and it doesn't require Front Page or other relatively expensive software -- yet it still allows for a graphically-engaging website which would be hard to create otherwise (especially for HTML newbies like me).
> Interesting. > What happens when you make a change (any other change) to your web and [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > will > | > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Rob Giordano (Crash) - 30 Apr 2007 15:37 GMT Yah, that's what I thought.
| I'm afraid the changes must be reaccomplished each time the site is published | from MS Publisher, since publisher will always use the default absolute [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] | > will | > | > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Mike Koewler - 29 Apr 2007 17:24 GMT Troy,
Not that you asked, but...
If your web site is just for fun and to play with, hosts such as GoDaddy are great. Very low cost. But if your site is for something important - promoting your business or an event, a community site, etc., trying to save a few dollars a year is not smart.
I don't have the best deal in the world, but I pay $7/mo. That's less than a quarter a day. I get way more space than I will ever need (at least in the foreseeable future), no ads, a Control Panel that automatically installs a large variety of programs, the best Tech Support on earth. I have three domains on it and about a dozens folders where I can host temp domains so potential customers can see their site before it goes live.
It's not that I dislike GoDaddy, but like I said, if your site is for anything besides a hobby, I would look into a different host.
Mike
> In GoDaddy's free webhosting, their ads appear as a strip accross the top of > the customer's website. Having created a simple website in Publisher, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 29 Apr 2007 18:58 GMT Mike - I appreciate your advice, and even GoDaddy offers non ad supported hosting for as low as $3.99 per month (I believe). I'm sure I'll eventually migrate to a similar low-cost (as opposed to no-cost) option, though -- this being my first foray into web publishing -- I hope to work out the kinks for free for a while before making further committments.
Besides, David's keying me into the term "absolute" allowed me to develop my own workaround, which seems to work nicely (see my response to his post, above).
Best wishes, Troy
> Troy, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? MIchaeldane - 29 Apr 2007 23:22 GMT Troy;
Go to the post about centering a web page and read Don Schmidt's response.
This neat little program does it all at one time and you won't have to go through all that other stuff.
> Mike - I appreciate your advice, and even GoDaddy offers non ad supported > hosting for as low as $3.99 per month (I believe). I'm sure I'll eventually [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will > > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements? Troy - 30 Apr 2007 11:52 GMT Thanks, Michael... I looked at it, and it does seem very useful for batch processing the find & replace command accross many files. In this case, however it may be of limited use, since my intent is to replace only the first occurrence of a word in each file, rather than all occurrences (which will cause the web pages to display incorrectly).
Thanks for the tip, however.
Best wishes, Troy
> Troy; > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > > Does anyone know how to do this in Publisher -- so that my websites will > > > > appear beneath, rather than beside the advertisements?
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