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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / July 2007http uploading
I've developed a site at; www.property-rapide.com which is redirected to www.s197673277.websitehome.co.uk I have hosting at 1&1 and confirmed that FPSE are installed and been given the http address for publishing; http://www.s197673277.websitehome.co.uk When I use this to upload through Publisher, although it seems to connect and asks me for my password and username, when these are submitted it says the server cannot be found. Any ideas anyone - I'm tearing my hair out !! 1&1 not being very helpful Piccybabes > I've developed a site at; > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Piccybabes I take it back 1&1 called me back and all solved. Piccybabes Piccybabes. I am also with 1and1, and i have been having a lot of problems with them with regards to uploading in http, currently only able to upload in ftp. I have a form included in my site with FPSE active, which requires http uploading to work, are you using XP or Vista as your operating system. My problem with http has only appeared now i have crossed over to Vista. I would be interested to hear what 1and1 told you with regards uploading in http with Publisher.  Signaturebrelade > > I've developed a site at; > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Piccybabes Brlade I called 1&1 and got a very helpful chap called James to take me through it. It seems that the password that you use to upload through http is the FPSE password that you set up on 1&1, not the 1&1 general username and password that you upload through on ftp. Crazy but it's true. Good luck - wish I'd called earlier - solved in 23 minutes - spent a week visiting message boards trying to find the answer. Piccybaes > Piccybabes. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > > > Piccybabes Many thanks for your reply. I have emailed 1and1 with your suggetion as i have spent over 3 hours on the phone and sent over 40 emails trying to reslove this form issue, MS Publisher is not a programe they are too familiar with and i have even try to reinvent the wheel on this on, all was well with XP, all gone pear shape with Vista. I will post back to let you know how i get on, if you have anymore sepifics that would be great. Are you using XP or Vista. Many Thanks Signaturebrelade > Brlade > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > > > > Piccybabes It's not unusual for ftp password to be different. SignatureRob Giordano Microsoft MVP - FrontPage | Brlade | [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] | > > | > > Piccybabes I have now managed to establish an http connection (shortcut) but when i publish to web and direct it to this shortcut it will not allow me to login and save. The only way i can view my files is to use explore then the optipon to save go's. I have emailed my host still waiting for a reply. Signaturebrelade > It's not unusual for ftp password to be different. > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > | > > > | > > Piccybabes brelade, Excuse me for jumping in here, but it sounded like you started using FTP uploading protocol, and then went back to HTTP. Using FTP will break the FPSE. Perhaps you should reactive your FPSE?? While you are logged on to your web host control panel, you might also delete the old Publisher html files and start fresh. DavidF >I have now managed to establish an http connection (shortcut) but when i > publish to web and direct it to this shortcut it will not allow me to [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >> | > > >> | > > Piccybabes David. I am having no joy with http. I have contacted my host with the following report: I have now managed to establish an http link, However when I publish to web, the index files go to my desk top, not to my link, I have tried to direct to the network link but it does not ask me to login to open the files, I can only view the files within when I right click an explore which the takes away the option to save. I have created the link in my computer by add new network connection, which then creates a shortcut in my computer. With Publisher, when I publish to web it takes me to my computer, I then normally then right click on the shortcut, login, then save, this is not happening, have you got any advice!!!! Reply from my host: This sounds like publisher is not setup to publish via HTTP but is instead saving to your desktop. You may need to find the HTTP connection in the "network center" (previously "my network places" in XP) area instead of relying on the shortcut it created when you are publishing, as this may be inadvertently causing it to save to the desktop. Unfortunately we do not officially support publisher, so exact instructions for this are currently unavailable. David i take on board what you say about ftp corupting files with FPSE, can i just delete the index files and leave 2 x important absolute link files. Saying that, at present i cannot save to my site, it produces html files but does not go on to save. When i create the link it ask's me for password to connect and when done opens my files, after that when i try to publish to web when i direct it to the link, i have no option to save. I know you are not using vista, but any advice would be grateful Signaturebrelade > brelade, > [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > >> | > > > >> | > > Piccybabes What I was saying is that by resorting to FTP uploading protocol, you probably corrupted your FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE), and will need to login to your webhost, reinstall them and test them before you waste any more time trying to upload.. If you are using a form built by Publisher then you need to use HTTP uploading protocol. If your host supports FrontPage, then it supports Publisher. The uploading protocol is the same for both...they both use HTTP uploading with FPSE, so read the instructions on the host about how to upload FrontPage websites, and they will be basically the same thing for Publisher. If when you Publish to the Web, the files are directed to your desktop, that is probably because that is where you directed them before you used FTP to upload them. Look closely when you Publish to the Web, and direct them to your htp address. If you were using HTTP uploading protocol successfully before your switched to Vista, then the process is not any different, but Vista may have an additional security feature that is preventing your from uploading. Once again, I would look to your webhost for the difference in using HTTP uploading with XP and Vista. I can only say, once again read the instructions on the site about how to reinstall the FPSEs, and then review the uploading articles here: David Bartosik's articles about uploading: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx Unless you are using forms on your website you can use FTP uploading protocol. If you are using forms HTTP uploading will be required. There is also a troubleshooting article. Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx Three top questions about publishing a Web site using Publisher 2003: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011186811033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 Troubleshoot publishing Publisher Web sites: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP062535831033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 DavidF > David. > I am having no joy with http. I have contacted my host with the following [quoted text clipped - 135 lines] >> >> | > > >> >> | > > Piccybabes David, Thanks. Can you recommend a host that understands Publisher Signaturebrelade > What I was saying is that by resorting to FTP uploading protocol, you > probably corrupted your FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE), and will need to [quoted text clipped - 175 lines] > >> >> | > > > >> >> | > > Piccybabes What do you mean that you are publishing to a link? Perhaps you should outline the *exact* steps you are taking in an attempt to publish to your web site (include the url to your web). David will be able to tell if you're doing it correctly then. I doubt you'll find a host anywhere that understands Publisher...you'll find a print houses that understand Publisher though. SignatureRob Giordano Microsoft MVP - FrontPage | David, Thanks. | [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] | > | > Three top questions about publishing a Web site using Publisher 2003: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011186811033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 | > Troubleshoot publishing Publisher Web sites: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP062535831033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 | > DavidF | > [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] | > >> >> | > > | > >> >> | > > Piccybabes Rob, What if any changes in http uploading protocol do you have to make in uploading FrontPage output in Vista vs. XP? I don't think brelade's issue is with Vista, but perhaps you could share some insight into that. I have been procrastinating installing Vista on my test partition as I really have no interest in converting to Vista in the near future. Are there any differences in how you use FPSE and upload FrontPage html using Vista? DavidF > What do you mean that you are publishing to a link? > [quoted text clipped - 257 lines] > | > >> >> | > > > | > >> >> | > > Piccybabes Dunno. I usually don't install new OSs until they've been out for 9 months or so. I have Vista and a ton of other new software waiting to be installed on something...definitely not my production machine...so I gotta build a new box very soon. I still don't understand the steps brelade is actually taking to publish. SignatureRob Giordano Microsoft MVP - FrontPage | Rob, | [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] | > | > | > | > Three top questions about publishing a Web site using Publisher 2003: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011186811033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 | > | > Troubleshoot publishing Publisher Web sites: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP062535831033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 | > | > DavidF | > | > [quoted text clipped - 184 lines] | > | > >> >> | > > | > | > >> >> | > > Piccybabes brelade, I found one many years ago, but the problem is not your host. 1 & 1 supports FPSE. Your problem is on your end if the FPSE are working. And you aren't going to get better instructions about how to upload using FPSE and HTTP uploading than in the articles I supplied, or the ones on your host in the FAQ sections or in the knowledge base. Changing hosts is not going to solve your problem. Read the articles... Did you test the FPSE as per the instructions in David Bartosik's information under HTTP uploading protocol article? Even if they seem to work, then log in to your control panel and reinstall the FPSE. Test them again. If you get past this point then concentrate on how you have things setup on your computer. Once again follow the instructions in the articles. And, I still would say that if you had things setup with XP to successfully upload using HTTP, then the process should be basically the same. You may have to delete the old files on your site and start fresh. It sounds like the key to your problem, is that you are not directing the html output from Publisher to the htp address...you are directing it to your desktop. Read the instructions in the articles about what to do from the point you Publish to the Web and get that dialog. You are mistakenly directing your output to your desktop. No webhost support person is going to be able to help you with that, nor can I offer better instructions than you will find in David's articles or the MSFT articles. Perhaps delete the "shortcut" and follow the instructions in the articles about how to setup the http connection, and try again. One of the problems with 1 & 1 is that it isn't clear where the root directory is. With FTP you just added a forward slash to the FTP address to upload to the root. I imagine the same to be true of the HTTP address they gave you. Did you read the instructions on 1 & 1 site about how to use the FPSE and HTTP uploading? Did you read the instructions about using FrontPage. Its a little different but setting up the htp address and installing the FPSEs should be the same. Sorry, I can't be of more help than this...good luck. DavidF > David, Thanks. > [quoted text clipped - 211 lines] >> >> >> | > > >> >> >> | > > Piccybabes Rob, David. As you know i have been using Pub for a little while now, both of you should remember how you have helped me along the way. To set the scene, I have just brought a new desk top with Vista, previously used Xp. With XP i published to web in my network places (http) with guidance from yourselves, (Form response OK). Vista, i am not sure if you are familiar, but the only way i can connect is as follows. (FTP): 1. Add new network Location, (Follow on screen prompts) 2. icon appers in both my computer reading pane & folder list Publish to web (ftp) 1. Publish to web direct it to my computer 2. Select the file from list 4. Right Click - login - Save (ftp works OK - form does not work) I know the reason why - because in in http (http): 1. Add new network Location, (Follow on screen prompts) 2. icon appers in both my computer reading pane & folder list Publish to web (http) 1. Site address creates a shortcut in my computer, both the in the large reading pane & file list. 2. When i publish to web i am taking to my computer where i can view my computer files, 3. Select site file, icons now change from web folder icon to plain text, however when i try to open or right click to expose login nothing happens, if i "explore" a new window opens to view files but the save option goes, i cannot open the foledr to allow me to login. 3. the only way i have managed so far to save in http, is to save to index files to my computer then drag then into the shortcut, but this takes ages & uploads the whole site each time, not just the minor changes i have just made. The link is there, but i cannot access it in the normal way directly Signaturebrelade > brelade, > [quoted text clipped - 251 lines] > >> >> >> | > > > >> >> >> | > > Piccybabes To reiterated...every time you use FTP you WILL break the FPSEs so after you FTP you will not be able to use FPSE until you repair or reinstall them. Sorry I don't have Vista installed yet so can't help there. SignatureRob Giordano Microsoft MVP - FrontPage | Rob, David. | [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] | > >> | > >> Three top questions about publishing a Web site using Publisher 2003: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011186811033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 | > >> Troubleshoot publishing Publisher Web sites: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP062535831033.aspx?pid=CH063577001033 | > >> DavidF | > >> [quoted text clipped - 160 lines] | > >> >> >> | > > | > >> >> >> | > > Piccybabes I have sorted http upload, the form works, i tried to explain how i did it above, (Still with a few uotstand problems) it's a long winded way round, not a direct publish to web route, so i am as happy as i can be at present, will wait until more users cross over to Vista / Publisher with a form on their site. Sincere thanks again Rob / David for all your advice and patience. Didn't realise i was the only person on the planet with Vista / Publisher and a form Signaturebrelade > To reiterated...every time you use FTP you WILL break the FPSEs so after you > FTP you will not be able to use FPSE until you repair or reinstall them. [quoted text clipped - 260 lines] > | > >> >> > save > | > >> >> > go's.
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