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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / October 2007Special effects on page enter
I would like to insert special effects into web site but this program requires inserting into head. With Pub 2007 you can't do it. Is there anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike The link you provided shows 28 different code snippets...you could have been a bit more specific, but my answer is the same. Just try inserting the portion that is supposed to go into the head section using the insert html code fragment, anywhere on the page that is out of the way, and try it anyway. Many times it will work in spite of what is said. If it doesn't then keep looking and trying other snippets until you find one that works. Also, keep in mind the KISS philosophy. Just because you can do something with a web page doesn't mean you should. If it slows the loading of the page and offers no functional advantage to the user, then question whether to add bells and whistles. Just something to think about... DavidF >I would like to insert special effects into web site but this program > requires inserting into head. With Pub 2007 you can't do it. Is there > anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike I tried posting it many ways but it still doesn't show under the preview site. I have been searching the internet and everything says head > The link you provided shows 28 different code snippets...you could have been > a bit more specific, but my answer is the same. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike Then I guess you are out of luck. You can't directly access the head via the Publisher publication. And as you still didn't tell me which of the 28 scripts you were trying to install, I can't make any recommendations. Sorry. DavidF >I tried posting it many ways but it still doesn't show under the preview > site. I have been searching the internet and everything says head [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> > anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? >> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike David; Try this trick. In any version of Publisher go to tools, web page options and in the keywords box put you code. When published it will appear in the head section. > Then I guess you are out of luck. You can't directly access the head via the > Publisher publication. And as you still didn't tell me which of the 28 [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> > anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > >> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike Novel idea, but keywords are a meta tag, which browsers interpret different from a script tag. Have you tried this method? Mike > David; > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>>>>anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike I tried it but nothing in the preview site worked and my other web site won't allow "characters" . I just liked the appearance of that code and wanted to do something to make my site more "alive'. wITHOUT TOO MANY CLIPS > Novel idea, but keywords are a meta tag, which browsers interpret > different from a script tag. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >>>>>anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike I have a website www.valleycandles.com It was create with GoDaddys. website design and it was easy to build but I can't do anything extra with it. I am building a new site and using a free trial version of pub 2007. I have untill jan 2008 to buy. I tried dreamweaver trial but it was so complex I gave up. And it would be expensive to purchase. Am I just too cheap? Maybe I'll try Web expressions free trial. Can I install that code in the heading on WE's deign? I can do a little html but I need the basic format. ?? help! > I tried it but nothing in the preview site worked and my other web site won't > allow "characters" . I just liked the appearance of that code and wanted to [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > >>>>>anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike You will find Publisher created sites very limiting. You will find that what you designed in GoDaddy's webdesigner or Publisher are not convertable to normal html/css webs...iow you will have to redo them to grow beyond basic. Learn it now or learn it later.  Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rob Giordano Microsoft MVP Expression |I have a website www.valleycandles.com It was create with GoDaddys. website | design and it was easy to build but I can't do anything extra with it. I am [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] | > > >>>>>anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? | > > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike I have 2 websites. one for my wife (www.valleycandles.com) that is currently online but needs lots of work and one for myself selling trailer building parts and kits. The trailer one is the one I am building with pub 2007. I will be selling about 150 to 200 different items in about 10 categories. Is pub 2007 the best or is there a better one thats not too complex. Dreamweaver is tough. Front page and web expression are tough as well. I just downloaded trial version of WE so I will play with that for a couple weeks. i also downloaded Webeasy 7 and web plus 6 to try. For the products I am going to sell which one should I go with keeping in mind the long term growth and updated versions and support. My godaddy designer is gone. they didn't make an updated version so it's junk. > You will find Publisher created sites very limiting. > [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > | > > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you > Mike imo... Dreamweaver or Expression Web. FrontPage may be a good place to start as long as you don't rely on webots and some other stuff that produce non-compliant code, however FP is in it's sunset - it's been replaced by EW but support will continue for years yet. Publisher web's may be easy, but....limited. I may be over near your hood later today - by PV high school. Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rob Giordano Microsoft MVP Expression |I have 2 websites. one for my wife (www.valleycandles.com) that is currently | online but needs lots of work and one for myself selling trailer building [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] | > | > > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you | > Mike I live 1/2 mile away. My kids went there. I'm thinking free trial of WE. If good, buy FP 2003 and upgrade to WE 2007 I just don't want to spend $300. I guess I'm just cheap. > imo... Dreamweaver or Expression Web. > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > you > | > Mike You don't have to spend 300.00. You can still find FP2003 new for cheap. Or you can just buy EW for 99.00 (trust me)...try the trial first though. There's more to learn with EW but you will be better off in the long run. --- That Hawaiian shaved ice stand is my favorite stop off whenever I am over that way. :-) Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rob Giordano Microsoft MVP Expression | I live 1/2 mile away. My kids went there. I'm thinking free trial of | WE. If good, buy FP 2003 and upgrade to WE 2007 I just don't want to spend [quoted text clipped - 140 lines] | > you | > | > Mike Klunk, Allow me to suggest you look at WebPlus from Serif. They offer a free download of an old version (four versions earlier) but trust me, it is what you need. If you download the free version, within a few weeks, you will get an offer to upgrade it for about $40. In your case, you can attach code to the <head> without any effort. You can add a form, e-commerce page, whatever you want. It has a great support forum, so if you have a problem, there is always a couple of users around to answer it, almost 24/7. <elucidation> I don't post here to promote Serif software. I use it, but do not have any stock in the company, nor get any reward if someone buys a program. However, when I hear that someone is thinking about spending a couple two-three hundred dollars and then have to learn a new program, my advice is as I have posted. WP is much like Pub as far as how objects are placed on a page, so it is a very, very short learning curve. IF, and that is an all caps IF, you are going to get a different program to create web pages, consider WebPlus. </elucidation> Mike > I have 2 websites. one for my wife (www.valleycandles.com) that is currently > online but needs lots of work and one for myself selling trailer building [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] >>| > > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you >>Mike Mike; Before I switched from using Publisher I tried it with some small scripts and it worked, not sure about larger scripts. > Novel idea, but keywords are a meta tag, which browsers interpret > different from a script tag. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >>>>>anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > >>>>>http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike Sorry. I was trying the random one > David; > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > >> > anyway it can be put in or some other similar effect? > > >> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you Mike OK, I think I see the one you were talking about: "Special Effects upon Page Enter IE5+" Sorry, but I don't have any alternative code to offer. Because of the way the Publisher code is written, you might have a hard time finding something that is going to affect the whole page like this script does. Now, I do understand wanting to punch up your site, and make your site more "alive", but you need to be careful. Don't loose site of the goal for your website. If your website is just a family entertainment, or a play site then add all the bells and whistles that you want. If it is to present a web presence to the world about a business or something important, then avoid the bells and whistles. If the latter, keep it clean and dazzle me with your content, not special effects. Make your navigation easy...your pages load as quickly as possible...lots of white space so I can easily spot the important content, etc. Arguably the most effective web page on the internet is Google....how many special effects does that page have? And, one more comment. Did you notice that the code you were trying to use will only work in IE? What if I am not using IE to look at your page? There are an increasing number of people that are using FireFox, Opera and other browsers. So if you had succeeded in getting this snippet to work, only those people that use IE would see the effect...and possibly, break the page for other browsers. Don't mistake my intent here. I am not saying that you shouldn't work to make your pages as attractive as possible, that you shouldn't personalize your site, or that you shouldn't add any "special effects". Heck, when I discovered that I could use the insert html code fragment tool to insert javascript, I went crazy experimenting with all the free code out there. But eventually I backed off most of it. I am just cautioning you about falling into the trap I did and many people do...adding so many bells and whistles, that you can't see the forest for the trees...and forgetting the goal of the website. I am not an expert web designer (or I wouldn't be using Publisher), so you can take all this with a grain of salt, but here is one of the websites that changed my attitude about design, that you might find interesting: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ Good luck...DavidF > Sorry. I was trying the random one > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >> > >> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you >> > >> > Mike Thanks for the suggestion. Even though it appears it won't work in this case, you are correct...it does access the head section directly from Publisher. DavidF > David; > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> >> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/index.html Thank you >> >> > Mike
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