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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / October 2007music not playing on webpage
In Publisher 2007, the music files I have embedded on each page of my website are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? This is the best new feature Pub has had in years. Do you have any clue how obnoxious it is for someone to visit a site and have music play automatically? I would rather see <blink>. YMMV, JMO, TEHO. Mike > In Publisher 2007, the music files I have embedded on each page of my website > are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the > files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? I understand what you're saying, but what I'm trying to do is not for just random music to start up for "entertainment"--it's instructional. I need some pieces to play (simple Midis) on various pages as examples of something. It's important. Thanks. > This is the best new feature Pub has had in years. Do you have any clue > how obnoxious it is for someone to visit a site and have music play [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the > > files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Kino, In that case, put a link - To listen to this, click here. That way, a visitor who wants to look around in silence can do that, while the one who wants to hear what you are talking about can do that also. Mike > I understand what you're saying, but what I'm trying to do is not for just > random music to start up for "entertainment"--it's instructional. I need [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>>are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the >>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Hello, Mike. I'm trying to do this, but the link doesn't activate either. I tried inserting it as an object (midi sequence), several different ways. Any other ideas? > Kino, > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >>>are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the > >>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Kino, Are you sure you have a player correctly installed on your computer and that you have uploaded the files to the correct directory? Do you have a url we can view? Mike > Hello, Mike. > I'm trying to do this, but the link doesn't activate either. I tried [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>>>>are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Good morning, Mike. Thanks for staying with this. Yes, I have a URL: http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/magicalrealism/2007objects/index.htm Let me know your thoughts. > Kino, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >>>>>are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the > >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Oh one other thing I forgot to mention. It appears that the links to the "Gallery objects..." on the left are not working in FF. If the links are grouped, try ungrouping them. That can fix that issue. DavidF > Good morning, Mike. > Thanks for staying with this. Yes, I have a URL: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. >> >>>>>Any ideas? Thank you, guys. I had to leave for the weekend--sorry. So far, the code works great, but for the whole site. When I try embedding a different song on the second page, they play together. But the one, just getting one, that's progress! I am hoping to have a different song on each page. Again, any ideas? So far you both have been a great help. I thank you both. I am trying to see why the various galleries are not working on the left side of the first page. I will try ungrouping them. Thanks for catching this. > Oh one other thing I forgot to mention. It appears that the links to the > "Gallery objects..." on the left are not working in FF. If the links are [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. > >> >>>>>Any ideas? Kino, You need to change the file name in this code: <embed src="http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/magicalrealism/2007objects/index_files/sound266.mid" type="audio/mid" autostart="true" play="true" loop="false" hidden="true" ></embed> You are using sound266.mid. On the Floss page, change it to sound323.mid Mike > Thank you, guys. > I had to leave for the weekend--sorry. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >>>>>>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. >>>>>>>>>Any ideas? Hi, Mike. Yes, that makes sense, and it's what I tried. It didn't work. The page kept playing what I had put on the first page. In fact, just because Publisher gave numerical names to the pieces, they aren't all different. Many of them are the same, even though they have different numbers. In their real-name formats, they are all different pieces of music. Dang. Any other ideas? What you are saying, of course, makes perfect sense! > Kino, > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > >>>>>>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. > >>>>>>>>>Any ideas? Kino, If you edited the HTML code fragment and changed it to sound323.mid, then uploaded the file to the server and it still plays sound266.mid, then I suspect you need to refresh your page (Shift/F5) or maybe delete that page from your server then upload the new page again. Mike > Hi, Mike. > Yes, that makes sense, and it's what I tried. It didn't work. The page [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] >>>>>>>>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. >>>>>>>>>>>Any ideas? Kino, When Publisher produces the html code and files, it makes copies of all the graphics and images that are inserted into the Publisher file, and renames them. I think that the same is true of *.mid files. I also think that if you use the built-in Publisher feature to insert background music, it is for every page in the Publisher file. To workaround both of those issues, I would not use the built-in background music feature in Publisher. I would instead create a subfolder on your site to contain the *.mid files, say perhaps "music". Then I would modify the code snippet Mike gave you by adding the code that would have been written by Publisher's built-in feature, and changing the path to the *.mid file. Try inserting something like this: <bgsound src="http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/magicalrealism/music/yourname.mid" loop=1> <embed src="http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/magicalrealism/music/yourname.mid" type="audio/mid" autostart="true" play="true" loop="false" hidden="true" ></embed> This is assuming that you upload "yourname.mid" to your website to the "music" subfolder. You can put the "music" folder anywhere you want on your site, but it seems more logical to put it at the same level in the directory as the "2007objects" subfolder. Then you can easily point to the *.mid files from any page on your site. I would keep it out of any "index_files" subfolder, which will be overwritten when you update the page. Also remember that the *.mid file must be uploaded before you could test the page on a local computer. I haven't tested this approach, but hopefully it will lead you to a solution. If you can't get it to work, I guess you could resort to individual files for each page with the different *.mid files embedded by Publisher, but that seems very inefficient. DavidF > Hi, Mike. > Yes, that makes sense, and it's what I tried. It didn't work. The page [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] >> >>>>>>>>>Publisher. >> >>>>>>>>>Any ideas? I did ungroup the objects, and that worked. Thanks. I notice now that the music (same music) plays for the first three pages, then that's it. This is all so minute in detail, but it's a big, big help. As I said, I really do appreciate the attention. > Oh one other thing I forgot to mention. It appears that the links to the > "Gallery objects..." on the left are not working in FF. If the links are [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. > >> >>>>>Any ideas? One more query in all this, and another observation. The second piece of code lets me name the piece of music. The first piece gives it a number--something that Publisher apparently did. I didn't list the music as numbers. It seems to have converted them. And it's hard to know what's what! So, the second piece of code, where I enter "my midi" works well because I can simply cut and paste the name. Now, to make it work on each page... Thanks. > I did ungroup the objects, and that worked. Thanks. > I notice now that the music (same music) plays for the first three pages, [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > >> >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. > > >> >>>>>Any ideas? kino 1, I noticed a couple things about your page and your site. The link that your provided does serve up the music in IE today when I tried it. It does not work in FF. And, though I usually am like Mike and hate music on a website, in this case I think the music does add a lot to the page. Maybe it is because I like the music, but maybe it is because it seems to fit into the "theme" or "message" for the page, but I can see why you want to include it. I also noticed that you are building your site with multiple Publisher files, and even multiple versions. I noticed some Pub 2000 pages. I think your site is a pretty good example of how to use this approach...I like it. I don't know a solution for you at the moment. Perhaps Mike will come back with some sort of code snippet that can be inserted into the page that would allow you to play your music in the background. I'll also look around a bit, because in this case I do support the use of music...I support the way YOU are using music. I think the ideal would be to have the music start automatically, but also have an off button. Just because you and I like the music, you should give the option to turning it off to those who don't. DavidF > Good morning, Mike. > Thanks for staying with this. Yes, I have a URL: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. >> >>>>>Any ideas? Thanks, David. I hope you or Mike have some further ideas. I really do want to use the music, and an off switch is a good idea. I had thought I would just loop it once, since they are relatively short pieces, but a switch might still be a good idea. Anyway, please let me know if you've got something. This used to work in earlier Publisher versions, but I don't really want to move backward. Thanks again. > kino 1, > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > >> >>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. > >> >>>>>Any ideas? Kino 1, I spent a while researching this, and it appears that all browsers will not play background music, and if they do, they use different media players. Netscape or FireFox seems to require the Quicktime player/plugin be installed, which I guess is no surprise that it doesn't like the Windows player. I found some code that you can add in the form of an insert html code fragment, that when added and the page viewed in FF, the "information bar" pops up and tells me I have to have Quicktime installed. <object> <embed src="index_files/your.mid" autostart="true" hidden="true"></embed> </object> Don't forget that Pub 2007 works a bit different than Pub 2000. Unlike 2000, unless you change the default settings, most of your support files, graphics, and *.mid files are stored in the index_files subfolder. Pub 2000 didn't use a subfolder and named the pages in a different way. If you write links, plan accordingly. I also found a javascript snippet that allows you to install and on and off button, and it does work in IE, but once again requests Quicktime when viewed in FF. View the following page in IE: http://www.jdstiles.com/java/musiconoff.html In my limited testing you can get this to work by inserting both parts of the snippet in the body of your Pub doc, even though it says that you have to put part of it in the head section. You would use this instead of the background music feature in Publisher. However, try the page in FF, and you will see what I mean about the information bar...or perhaps you won't, if you have Quicktime installed. I don't have Quicktime installed, nor do I want to install it. It took me forever to get rid of it when I first setup this computer. It was constantly trying to update itself, was loading in the background and taking resources, and I just didn't want it. But that is just me. If most of your viewers have Quicktime installed, then perhaps these workarounds will work for you. Let me know if you try it. Also, you can google for other javascript code that might accomplish the same thing. But one way or the other, I think you have to work around the two browsers requiring two different media players. By the way, which version of IE are you using? All this might be a moot point if you are using IE7, as it is creating a whole different set of issues because of its increased security. DavidF > Thanks, David. > I hope you or Mike have some further ideas. I really do want to use the [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >> >> >>>>>Publisher. >> >> >>>>>Any ideas? David, The only major difference between the code I posted and you did was the <object> </object> tags. Does that make a difference in the non Gecko browsers? I can't find a way to preview a Pub site in anything but my default browser, so I don't know how the code works in IE. BTW, that's another suggestion to make for the next version of Pub - allow the user to select which browser to preview the site it. Mike > Kino 1, > [quoted text clipped - 147 lines] >>>>>>>>>>Publisher. >>>>>>>>>>Any ideas? Mike, I didn't see your post and code until after I had posted mine. After seeing yours, I tested it and got the same results in FF. It told me I needed Quicktime. I suspect the code will help kino 1, if the viewer has Quicktime installed, and perhaps most machines already do. And the on/off javascript will probably also work...it does with IE. I have already added the test in other browsers feature to my wish list for Publisher, but I won't hold my breath. In the meantime if you really want to test the Publisher html code in other browsers, you have to direct the output to your hard drive. When you "Publish to the Web", a dialog comes up and in the left hand column choose where you want to direct the output. If I am just testing something, I usually direct the output to a folder on my Desktop, so it is easy to find and get to, and delete when I am done. Then I open that folder, right click the index.htm file, or the *.htm files in the index_files folder, and choose "open with" and choose the browser. If this doesn't work, you can open any browser, go to File > Open and browse to the folder. This is also handy for studying the files that are produced before you upload them to the server... DavidF > David, > [quoted text clipped - 158 lines] >>>>>>>>>>>Publisher. >>>>>>>>>>>Any ideas? Kino, Keep in mind I am not a Pub expert or even above a novice. But try inserting this into an html code fragment: <embed src="http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/magicalrealism/2007objects/index_files/sound266.mid" type="audio/mid" autostart="true" play="true" loop="false" hidden="true" ></embed> I tried it and it worked for me. YMMV. BTW, I like the sound. In the above example, there is no off switch and it doesn't loop. Mike > Good morning, Mike. > Thanks for staying with this. Yes, I have a URL: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >>>>>>>are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, the >>>>>>>files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Mike, do you have Quicktime installed? DavidF > Kino, > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >>>>>>>>Internet. Previously, the files just started automatically in >>>>>>>>earlier versions of Publisher. Any ideas? Yes! Mike > Mike, do you have Quicktime installed? > > DavidF Figured as much. Thanks. Now I am wondering what browser kino is using, and which version. DavidF > Yes! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> DavidF Format > Background > Background sound at the bottom of the dialog. Perhaps you are not using the correct file format. *.MID Perhaps the file you are using is large and taking a long time to load? DavidF > In Publisher 2007, the music files I have embedded on each page of my > website > are not playing when the website comes up on the Internet. Previously, > the > files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any > ideas? Thanks, DavidF. I've got those things covered. It's the right file format and they're very small files. I've tried leaving the browser open for a good while to see if something will start, but nothing. Any other ideas? > Format > Background > Background sound at the bottom of the dialog. Perhaps > you are not using the correct file format. *.MID Perhaps the file you are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > files just started automatically in earlier versions of Publisher. Any > > ideas?
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