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Web Page setup follow up question

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David - 29 Oct 2007 20:26 GMT
DavidF,
I didn't have it layed out "for print media". I used web page standard which
is 800X600.  Is this the 760 pixells you refer to?

If I stay OUT of the "scratch area" there is way too much dead space onthe
right of my web page. Also my banner picture I have at the top of my web page
should run across the entire top of the page If I stay out of scratch area it
stops halfway and looks ridiculous. Am I missing something?

Regarding the Index.htm. you state "It doesn't put the
> index.htm file...your home page in the subfolder. You will upload both the
> index.htm and the index_files folder intact."
When I "Publish to the Web" and choose the public folder on my domain to
publish to the resulting index_Files folder is one page less than the number
of pages on my web site.  This 1 page omitted is the first page or index.htm.
If I don't duplicate the first page (home) then my web site's HOME hyperlink
doesn't work. I know you've referenced this but I don't think anyone
understood what you were saying.

WebNovice

"DavidF" wrote:

> If you need a wider page, then go to page setup and choose a wider page
> default, or create a custom page, but don't let your content overlap into
> the scratch area. It will create problems. Or better yet, change your design
> so it will fit a 760 pixels width page, which is better for the web anyway.
> Print media is different than Web media.
>
> Yes, there is a problem with your work flow. Publisher by default produces
> both an index.htm file and an index_files folder that contain the other
> pages in your site, plus all the supporting graphics. It doesn't put the
> index.htm file...your home page in the subfolder. You will upload both the
> index.htm and the index_files folder intact.
>
> In the future, please post your web related questions to the web group:
> microsoft.public.publisher.webdesign and we will try to help you there.
> Thanks.
>
> DavidF
>
> "David" <David@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2976B5F2-3CE9-4E8A-B025-3550D349B28F@microsoft.com...
> > I've used Page Setup Layout Web Page Normal. In creating a page I have to
> > arrange text boxes and pictures beyond the page (white area with blue line
> > border extending over to ivory colored backdrop) in order to have it
> > displayed correctly both in Web Page preview and once posted to Web. It
> > seems
> > to look fine with my Browser (not sure how it looks to others).  The
> > problem
> > is when I insert a text box or picture I must have at least a small
> > portion
> > of it on the white part of the page or it (that text box or picture)
> > won't
> > display at all. There appears to be plenty of room and if I just get a
> > little
> > of the text box on the white it displays. Am I missing something?
> >
> > Second question / point. I saw others had trouble with publishing web page
> > because index home page gets created in a sub folder. I just inserted a
> > duplicate home page and it seems to work.  Any drawbacks to this?

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DavidF - 29 Oct 2007 22:30 GMT
Welcome to the Web side of Publisher...

You didn't specify which version of Publisher you are using, and one of the
standard widths is 760 pixels. 800 is fine, but don't specify the length.
Unless you are using Pub 2002, Publisher will automatically truncate the
page after the last design element on the page, leaving you custom length
pages.

I now understand what you were talking about in terms of why you wanted to
extend your banner and other elements into the scratch area. The problem is
that Publisher web pages are left justified by default. I notice that you
responded to another post about this, and my advice is to read the reference
that I gave in that one to understand padding. If you are using Pub 2000 or
2002, then it is possible to center the page, but it requires hand coding,
and most people find it too inconvenient to pursue.

Reference: Understanding background padding in a Publisher web (aka white
space):
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80563.aspx

If nothing else, add a background color or texture to your pages and that
alone will make the "white space" look better...or you can make your page
wider, but avoid making it too wide. Too wide and the viewer may have to
scroll horizontally, which is a quick way to alienate them. The standard is
800 pixels or less, but that has been changing. Pub 2007 now offers a 984
pixel wide page as a standard. Another poster here prefers an even wider
page:
http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk/
The subject is debatable, but do not overlap into the scratch area. It will
create problems.

Now as to the index.htm file etc., unless you are using Pub 2002, then when
you Publish to the Web, both the index.htm file and the index_files folder
are the output. I don't know why you aren't getting the index.htm file,
unless you are using 2002. You can test this yourself. Instead of directing
your output to the web, direct it to a folder on your computer where you can
easily find it. Then open the folder and inspect the contents.

Here is another reference that is probably worth reading. It is for Pub
2007, but gives a good all around description of how Publisher works:

Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx
It is written for Pub 2007, but if you are using IE7 instead of IE6, then
the directions for using Vista would apply. FTP uploading has changed with
the introduction of IE7.

Let me know if all this clears things up for you.

DavidF

> DavidF,
> I didn't have it layed out "for print media". I used web page standard
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>> > because index home page gets created in a sub folder. I just inserted a
>> > duplicate home page and it seems to work.  Any drawbacks to this?

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