FTP Opiton in Vista on Publisher 2007

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BlueEsq - 04 Nov 2007 06:23 GMT

Hi All,

For the life of me, I cannot find a way to get my FTP "save as" option in my
publisher menu, when I go to the "publish to web" selection in 2007. It used
to be a clear selection in the Pub 2003 "save as" window (XP). Can anyone
point me in the right direction here?

Also, in transfering some of my pub 2003 sites over to 2007, I've noticed
that I can't add new pages to established sites (once transferred into 2007)
-- are the files not compatible for this action when it comes to this feature.

Many Thanks (in advance).

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DavidF - 04 Nov 2007 14:17 GMT

Pub 2007 works pretty much as does 2003 if it is loaded on XP with IE6. The
problem I would guess is the changes they have made with Vista and
specifically IE7. Reference: Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher
Web site:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA100947601033.aspx
And specifically look at the instructions for FTP uploading and the
different approach for Vista than XP, which is also relevant to XP users
that have switched to IE7.

Alternatively, I think if you are using FTP, then I would suggest that you
download and use FileZilla which is a free FTP client:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla
There is good documentation available for download too.

You are at least the second poster who has had some sort of problem adding
pages to a web publication. What kind of pages are you trying to add? Are
they just duplicate pages, blank, or one of the "template" pages?

From Reference: Add a page to your Web site:

"To add a Product Detail page or a Service Detail page to your Web site, you
must have selected a Publisher Product Sales design template or a
Professional Services design template when you initially created your Web
site . If you created a Web site with a Professional Services template, only
service-related pages will be available, such as a Service Detail page or a
Service List page."

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP100676881033.aspx?pid=CH100793371033

DavidF

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BlueEsq - 04 Nov 2007 15:19 GMT

Hi David,

As always -- thanks! I'll check out some of the information below, and see
if I can solve the problem(s). With respect to your question, I was trying to
duplicate a page from a site that had been created in 2003, not insert a
blank page. I didn't try a blank page insertion.

I tried to upload the site last night using filezilla, but I ran into some
kind of problem...I'm sure it's me (was tired), not Publisher, as I've used
filezilla successfully in the past with 2003. I've noticed that the Publisher
FTP program becomes a bit unstable once a site gets up over 10 pages...so,
that's when I began using filezilla on a regular basis. Has anyone else
noticed this too?

As you can see (from our discussions in the past), I'm still stuck on PUB,
and I've successfully avoided moving on to Dreamweaver and Indesign! I'm just
so happy with the efficient way that you can build HTML sites in Publisher.

Anyways...I'll report back and let you know if the information below is of
any assistance (I'm sure it will be). Finally, just a note to the MS bunch re
Word -- Word 2007 is FANTASTIC! The layout of the command bars is excellent,
and the Vista OS makes the program a dream to use! Kudos to MS!

> Pub 2007 works pretty much as does 2003 if it is loaded on XP with IE6. The
> problem I would guess is the changes they have made with Vista and
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DavidF - 04 Nov 2007 15:48 GMT

Hey, you don't have to defend continuing to use Publisher for your site to
me. Obviously, I am still doing it myself. You are safe in this newsgroup
;-)

This FTP issue with IE7 will become more of an issue as more people move to
Vista. After your post this morning I started some more research. One of the
best sources of info I came across was here: FTP behavior in IE7 :
http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2006/07/01/103612.aspx

I have also been reading through the material I find from doing the
following Google search:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/search?
q=ftp&start=10&sa=N&

I think this article also explains how and why IE7 ftp has changed:
Separation of Internet Explorer 7 from the Windows shell:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;928675

Since you are already using FileZila, perhaps search their site for updated
documentation about running FileZilla on Vista. I notice that there is a new
version out now...

Do you use FireFox at all? I noticed that they have an FTP client, but
haven't used it. In fact I don't use FileZilla either, but use a different
FTP client rather than HTTP uploading.

Insert page issue? As I said, this is fairly new around here. I will post
back if I can find anything and hope you will too.

How about posting a link to your site. I would like to take a look at it
again if you don't mind. There aren't that many people who manage such a
large site with Publisher.

DavidF

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BlueEsq - 04 Nov 2007 16:51 GMT

Hi,

Sure...I'll post the link. However, everyone please keep this in mind: I'm a
professional photographer by trade, and there is ADULT content on the
site...as in, explicit nudity. There is no pornography -- that's not what I'm
about. However, there IS explicit nudity on the site...so, be advised of that
fact in advance of a visit.

Here's the URL: www.glamourthing.com

David -- thanks again for all your helpful suggestions.

> Hey, you don't have to defend continuing to use Publisher for your site to
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DavidF - 04 Nov 2007 19:04 GMT

Thanks. I remember now why I couldn't remember your site. We had this
conversation before and you politely declined to post the URL because of the
subject matter. Sorry to put you on the spot again. I honestly was
interested in how you had the site organized...and that's all I looked
at...honest ;-). And it was nicely laid-out and organized...

On a more serious note, don't forget to use the compress graphics feature in
Publisher. Many of your images are very slow loading.

Secondly, one bug associated with 2003 and 2007 is that the bottom navbar
does not work in FireFox and some other browsers. The easiest fix is to
ungroup it from the side/vertical navbar. That will also disconnect it from
the Wizard though...

Thirdly, we probably discussed this before, but you seriously should
consider breaking your site up and using multiple Pub files to produce it.
The larger the Pub file size the more likely it is to become corrupted and
of course the harder it is to manage. I use multiple subfolders to contain
the web files I produce with multiple Pub files, but David Bartosik
describes another way: Building a web site with multiple Publisher web
publication files:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx

DavidF

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BlueEsq - 04 Nov 2007 19:17 GMT

Did it! And, it worked. Actually -- truth be told -- I found the Vista (MS)
operating system a bit more intuative than the filezilla. The file transfer
was easy and fast. Mind you...it is one of those things that you "pray" you
can repeat twice, when you need to do it again!

Now I just need to get around the page duplication problem. Don't want to
keep using 2003 to ad pages, and then 2007 for refinement of the pages, and
loading of the site. I'll try the blank page approach next...and see if it
can reproduce the nav bars ('cause I think the problem rests in the nav bars
of 2003 v. 2007).

Many Thanks, David.

Cheers.

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DavidF - 04 Nov 2007 20:13 GMT

Thanks for posting back with your success...but what worked? I gave you a
bunch of links...which worked?

Assuming that you are onto something about the navbars, perhaps you need to
build a new navbar in the 2007 version. Save a copy of your file to
experiment with. Then go through each page Tools > Web Page Options
and make sure that "Add hyperlink to new navigation bars that are added to
this publication" is checked. Then go through each page and delete the
navbar...select and cut to delete. The go to your first page, Insert >
Navigation Bar > choose your old style or a new style navbar and Insert
Object. This brings up a new dialog and make sure that "Insert on every
page" and Automatic update is checked, ok. This should create a new navbar
on each page...just drag and position it where you want it. Now you should
be able to access Web Site Options in the task pane, and your Navigation Bar
task. You may have to remove the bottom navbar too...

DavidF

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BlueEsq - 04 Nov 2007 20:43 GMT

Hi David,

This is the link that I walked through to figure it out:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2006/07/01/103612.aspx. I only
used that one link. It really made everything clear as day, as I began to
step through some of the scenarios posted by others, within the posts of the
thread.

Re the file compression issue -- I know! Funny...I compress files for
customers all the time, so they can post things on their sites. It's a bit of
the following syndrome at work: who has the worst shoes in the
village?...right, the cobblers kid! That being said, I may sit down over the
xmas holiday and just run through the entire site, and compress all the
graphics. I guess that's one of the drawbacks of a hard-coded, page-by-page
site. Maintenace becomes a real bear, as the site continues to grow.

Best to All!

P.S. Knew about the menu thing on firefox. My stats show that most use IE to
visit...so, I've just let that go. Good suggestion though. May look at the
de-coupling of the nav bars at xmas too.

> Thanks for posting back with your success...but what worked? I gave you a
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DavidF - 05 Nov 2007 02:54 GMT

Thanks. I have been having a hard time understanding the IE7/FTP issue and
how to help people with it. I liked that information too.

You do know that you can compress all the images in a particular Pub file at
once, using the graphic compression tool that is built into Pub 2007 and is
available to 2003, right? It will resample and reduce your images down to a
96 dpi image. Reference:

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