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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / December 2007How can I get my Publisher website to be viewed by MAC users?
My Publisher website cannot be viewed by MAC visitors. Is there any way around this? Is there anyway to make my site viewable to all visitors? Please Help!! Go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck "rely on vml..." and "allow png...". That will fix most of the cross browser problems. If you have others, please post links to the pages, and further details as to the problems. If you download and install FireFox, which is a relatively small download, you can then test your site against FF. If you get the site working for both IE and FF, you will find it works in most browsers. DavidF > My Publisher website cannot be viewed by MAC visitors. Is there any way > around this? Is there anyway to make my site viewable to all visitors? > Please > Help!! Thank you so much for responding to my post. I really appreciate it. I did uncheck the two options but the graphics and pictures and border, practically nothing on the site is visible besides the links. Here are the two websites: ruwachenjasmine.org jasminebates.com Thanks for your help. > Go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck "rely on vml..." and "allow > png...". That will fix most of the cross browser problems. If you have [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Please > > Help!! You didn't specify which version of Publisher you are using, but I will assume Pub 2003 or 2007. When I load http://ruwachenjasmine.org/ in FireFox it appears that while you may have made the changes I suggested, you didn't update your site. The page loads and looks like you did not make the settings changes I suggested. Did you upload the new files? You may need to delete the old files off the server. The same is true of your other site. When you produce your files, do you use Publish to the Web to produce the index.htm file and the index_files folder? Are you using a master page? If you are, don't. Move everything off the master page onto the main pages. Run the design checker under Tools. This doesn't directly affect the ability to view the site in FF or by MACs, but you really need to compress your images...they are very large and verrrrrry slow loading. Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web pages: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx And by the way, the red on black text is almost impossible to read. You might consider switching to white or a better contrasting text color. DavidF > Thank you so much for responding to my post. I really appreciate it. I did > uncheck the two options but the graphics and pictures and border, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > Please >> > Help!! Hi David, I followed your advice for my site too. It worked! I'm so happy, I can see my site in FF. I couldn't before. I thought I was going to have to start all over, and learn a new web building program. So thanks again! However, the navigation bar does not work. Can you help me with that? > Go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck "rely on vml..." and "allow > png...". That will fix most of the cross browser problems. If you have [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Please > > Help!! Without seeing your site, I would guess that you are talking about the bottom navbar? If so, then select it > Arrange and ungroup it from the navbar wizard and it should work. If not, post back with a link to a problem page. DavidF > Hi David, > I followed your advice for my site too. It worked! I'm so happy, I can [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> > Please >> > Help!! Thanks for getting back with me. I have three sites. They work fine in IE. I have been trying to get them right in FF. These are the problems I'm having. tonyatv.biz -a lot of the hyperlinks don't work. imshownoff.com- the navigation bar at the top does not work shownoffcosmetics.com- it is still distorted > Without seeing your site, I would guess that you are talking about the > bottom navbar? If so, then select it > Arrange and ungroup it from the [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >> > Please > >> > Help!! Starting with imshownoff, you have converted the whole page to one huge image, which will kill the links. Look at: http://imshownoff.com/index_files/image554.png It may be the border you have put around everything. Remove the border and see if that fixes it. Same problem with: http://tonyatv.biz/index_files/image2247.png and http://shownoffcosmetics.com/index_files/image1059.png Your pages are way too wide and require horizontal scrolling. I would suggest no wider than 984 pixels and under 800 is most common. Be sure to go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck "rely on VML..." and "allow png...". Also use the compress images tool: Reference: Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web pages: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011266301033.aspx Try removing the border and testing again. If the links still don't work, check to see if you have them grouped with any other design element and ungroup. And test to see if the link has been converted to an image. You can do that by trying to select text with a left click drag across the text on the web page. If you can't select the text, then you have converted to an image. The deconstruct the page by removing or dragging components into the scratch area, or removing formatting until you find what is converting the links to an image. Then you will know what is causing the problems. If you still can't figure something out, post back with the specifics, and we will try to help you sort it out. DavidF > Thanks for getting back with me. I have three sites. They work fine in > IE. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> >> > Please >> >> > Help!! Hi David, First let me say that I can't tell you how great it is to finally get help from someone who knows all about this program. Everyone else I ask, just puts down publisher and tells me I need to use something else. So I'm just so glad for all of your help! I'm sure you are right about the grouping because I did group everything. I didn't know about proper dimentions. I was trying to center my site. Can you tell me the proper way to do that? Everytime I use the box that is given, my site comes up to the left of the page. I started creating my own box and positioning over to the right, and I had to group everything, or some of the objects furthest to the right would not show up in my web page preview. About Compressing-I had already gone to microsoft and added the compression tool a while back. I applied it, and the pictures actually load a little faster than they did before. Give me your opinion, would you say that it's annoyingly slow to someone who is looking at for the first time? About the rely on vml and allow png. I did that too. It made www.imshownoff and www.tonyatv show up correctly in FF, but not www.shownoffcosmetics. I reloaded it several times, and double checked the VML etc. but it kept coming up the same. I'm going to redo the dimensions and ungroup things like you said, and see what happens, but could you answer back about the correct to center. Thanks for all of your help! > Starting with imshownoff, you have converted the whole page to one huge > image, which will kill the links. Look at: [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > >> >> > Please > >> >> > Help!! Tonya, Glad to help. Yes, you won't find any serious professional web builder using Publisher, but if you KISS and realize that it is a different medium than print, you can produce some decent looking and functional sites pretty easily. And easily is the main thing. I think it depends on the scope and goals of your sites. If you keep it simple and the site is going to be mostly static, you can do some good work with Publisher. Its the person wielding the tool...not the tool, that is most important...IMHO One of the things you said about grouping everything, gives a possible hint as to why www.shownoffcosmetics is not working correctly. It sounds like you are grouping some things that are off your main publication page in the scratch area. That is a bozo no no. Go to Edit > Page setup and widen your page if necessary, or make your content fit, but don't have anything in the scratch area. I should have also suggested running the design checker under tools, which probably would have flagged that issue. With the advantages of using Publisher come limitations, and one of them is centering the page. You can do it with 2002 and older, but not 2003 or 2007. The page is left justified and at this point no one has come up with a way to center the content. While I see no problem with left justified pages, I understand why some do. You can simulate the effect. Reference: Understanding background padding in a Publisher web (aka white space) : http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80563.aspx I will say that having to scroll horizontally is much more of a problem for your viewers than centering. But you can use a wider page and a more narrow content, and get a similar feeling to centering. Personally I would try a page width of 984 pixels, and then make your content ~800 pixels wide and centered. Then at least most people will probably not have to scroll sideways to read the content and your page will not look left justified. There is no absolute rules here, but the standard width for pub 2003 pages was 760 pixels wide...and there were reasons for that. My pages are almost all 760 and left justified. As to loading time, it is hard to measure given that the whole page is one big picture, which indeed takes a long time to download with a dial up connection. I didn't even bother to try to load the whole thing once I realized that the page had been converted. Get that issue fixed and post back and I'll look again. DavidF > Hi David, > First let me say that I can't tell you how great it is to finally get help [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] >> >> >> > Please >> >> >> > Help!! Tonya, To get an idea of how long it will take for viewers to download your page, go here: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ and enter your URL. It will list times for Modem, Broadband, T1 and others, and tell you the size of the images, scrips, etc. It's well worth bookmarking the page. Mike > Hi David, > First let me say that I can't tell you how great it is to finally get help [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] >>>>>>>Please >>>>>>>Help!! |
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