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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / June 2008Publisher 2000 web design
I have used Pub 2000 for a long time and have 6 websites with it. Recently I have been working on Pub 2000 and in 'Preview a Page' it now cannot save any graphics. I get a message 'Cannot save graphics. Files is either too large or not enough memory'. Both statements of wich are a load of rubbish. The page file saves in my local folder, but WITHOUT ANY GRAPHICS FILES (just empty file folder). Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics  SignatureDavid Balaam You receive a "Not enough memory to load graphics or embedded objects" error message when you open a Publisher publication http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262855/en-us You receive a "Publisher cannot complete the operation" error message when you import pictures in Publisher 2002 and in Publisher 2000 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/218675/en-us .gifs? PUB2000: Cannot Create Online Document Error Publishing Web http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198238/en-us SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com >I have used Pub 2000 for a long time and have 6 websites with it. > Recently I have been working on Pub 2000 and in 'Preview a Page' it now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Hi Mary The link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198238/en-us had the right problem to solve, but it did not work. Most of my graphics are JPEGs, would that make a difference? Also, should Pub 2000 work OK in IE7? Regards David SignatureDavid Balaam > You receive a "Not enough memory to load graphics or embedded objects" error > message when you open a Publisher publication [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Are you having problems with just a web page preview, or as you stated in your original post that you are having problems saving the .pub file...or perhaps Save As a Web page? Does this issue occur with every .pub file, or with just one? Have you tried Tools > Design Checker? Perhaps you have an image or some other design element overlapping into the scratch area? DavidF > Hi Mary > The link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198238/en-us [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> > >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Hi David The design is fine and it happens with any page I want to re-save. The page html is saved plus an empty image file. Same when saving as a Web Page. I can open ALL OLD pages in browser, but not newly created or changed pages. All reference to img are missing in the source text. I will try and reinstall Pub 2000 to see if that makes a difference. Kind regards David SignatureDavid Balaam > Are you having problems with just a web page preview, or as you stated in > your original post that you are having problems saving the .pub file...or [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >> > > >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics I am sorry, but I am still confused by your terminology. What do you mean by "re-save"? It might help if I get on the same page as you are. Are you just getting this error when you do 1) a web page preview or 2) when you save the changes in the Pub file using Save or Save as, or 3) when you Save as a Web page? There is a big difference between getting errors during the web page preview which has nothing to do with saving anything? When you open an existing Pub file, make a change to a page, do you get the error when you save the change to the Pub file by simply saving or doing a save as another Pub file? Do you get the error when you Save as a Web page from the Pub file? When you say " The page html is saved plus an empty image file." that has nothing to do with a web page preview. Please explain what you mean by an empty image file. Have you tried temporarily deconstructing your problem page by dragging all the images into the scratch area and then doing a web page preview? This might help identify a problem with a specific image. Just make sure to back up your original file before you try this. Have you tried to open your .html files in FireFox to see if the problem is IE7 specific? FF is a quick easy download, and it might be worth it to see if the problems you are having are Publisher or IE related. You might want to do a detect and repair under Help before resorting to uninstalling and reinstalling Pub. Do you automatic update your computer with patches from MSFT? Did this problem start recently after downloading and installing a particular patch? Sorry if I am dense here. I know you know what you are trying to say, but for some reason the words you have chosen to use confuse me. DavdF > Hi David > The design is fine and it happens with any page I want to re-save. The [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Hi David Sorry for the wording - I get this error when I do a page preview. I do not save the completed site as a webpage as it is over 100 pages. I always a) preview a page I have finshed in browser b) then saved that page as a complete webpage to local file c) I then upload page and image folder to website. The problem starts in previewing anythng I have changed to a page. Originol pages are still OK and can be seen in browesr. I have not downloaded Firefox but will try it to see if same happens Regards David SignatureDavid Balaam > I am sorry, but I am still confused by your terminology. What do you mean by > "re-save"? It might help if I get on the same page as you are. [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Just tested in Firefox - same results. Publisher is not saving any graphics David SignatureDavid Balaam > Hi David > Sorry for the wording - [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics No problem on the wording...problem is in my ability to understand the wording ;-) One more point of clarification please...maybe two <grin again>. Are you sure you are using Pub 2000? Open Help and About Publisher to confirm. I ask this because your work flow is different than I have ever experienced, or what I follow myself...and I still use Pub 2000 for my production work. When you Save As a Web page directly from the open Pub file, which is the proper way of producing your web pages or your html files in Pub 2000, then you do not get an image folder. Publisher 2000 automatically produces a "Publish" folder when you "Save As a Web Page", and then unless you direct the output to another folder, it will produce a .html file for each page in your site plus all the images. All these .html files and image files are loose...no subfolder. Starting with Pub 2002 Publisher gave you the option of using a subfolder to organize all the graphics and images in a subfolder, which is usually called "index_files". Nor do you get an image folder if you do a web page preview, and then from IE do a Save as type" Web page complete...", or "Web Archive (.mht file)", or "Web page, html only...". If I do a web page preview, and then a Save As from IE6, as a "Web page complete..." and upload that .html file, and view the uploaded file, I do not get any images...just the X showing that the images are missing. If I upload the .mht file, the images are visible. So assuming that you are indeed using Pub 2000, where is this image folder coming from? How are you inserting your images? Are you importing them from a image folder on your host? Right click one of the images on one of the problem pages > change picture > Graphics manager. Are you pictures embedded or linked to the image file on your local computer? And perhaps this is all a moot issue, if you are getting your original error when you do the web page preview directly from the Publisher file. When you do a web page preview, and the web page preview dialog comes up, do you choose "Web site" or "Current Page"? If I understand correctly, you only get an error if you have added a page to your Publisher file, that has images, and do a web page preview of that "current page"...or does the error happen when you choose to preview the "web site"? It is possible that if you have 100 pages and lots of JPGs inserted into those pages, that you may have indeed exceeded the ability of your computer to open and preview those pages. Pub 2000 stores JPGs in an uncompressed state. When you right click your Pub file, and look at the properties, how big is the file? Another experiment.... Open your original Pub file where you are getting the error message. Open a second instance of Pub 2000, and create a blank web page. Copy all the content of one of the new problem pages and paste to the blank page in the second instance of Publisher. Do a web page preview...do you get the error? I may be going off on a tangent here with all of this. It is still possible that one of your graphic filters are corrupted. This happens a lot and Mary knows the names of those filters and how to repair them. Let's pull her back into this and check that option out too... Sorry I don't have a quick solution for you, but as I said, your workflow and terminology is throwing me for a loop. DavidF > Hi David > Sorry for the wording - [quoted text clipped - 143 lines] >> >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save >> >> >> > graphics Can I email you an image of the preview results I get - it may help Regards David davidbalaam@lycosmax.co.uk SignatureDavid Balaam > I am sorry, but I am still confused by your terminology. What do you mean by > "re-save"? It might help if I get on the same page as you are. [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics I would prefer that you use www.YouSendIt.com to upload a copy of that file, send the link to yourself, and then post the link to download it back to the group. Yousendit is a freebie, and though it seems like you have to sign up, you don't have to in order to use the service. Thanks. DavidF > Can I email you an image of the preview results I get - it may help > [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] >> >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save >> >> >> > graphics Hope this works http://download.yousendit.com/9CC57ED457E955B4 http://download.yousendit.com/DDC7FC4E3804684D Should see example page of origional and new. On your last reply, I know it seems unusual to make and uplaod a website the way I do, but it was they way I was taught. When you have alot of pages it is easy to make changes to one page at the time. Therefore I create and uplaod single pages as am html, together with its corrisponding file. However, the problem still remains when I try to preview a page on my PC. There must be a misisng file or filter that shows the images. A reinstall may be the answer. Kind regards David SignatureDavid Balaam > I would prefer that you use www.YouSendIt.com to upload a copy of that file, > send the link to yourself, and then post the link to download it back to the [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > >> >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save > >> >> >> > graphics David, Your files came through just fine (I use yousendit all the time for large files rather than bog down an email), but they don't really give me much insight as to your problem. Perhaps when Mary posts back the method of replacing the graphic filters, your problem will go away. In the meantime, you did not answer my questions in the other post, so let me be more methodical: 1. Is your D drive a data drive partition on your local hard drive, or is it an external drive? If it is on an external drive, what happens if you copy your Pub file to your desktop on the C drive, open it, and then try a Web Page preview? Do you still get an error? 2. Right click your Pub file, properties, and how big is the file? 3. What happens if you make sure your Pub file is on your C drive, you open it, you then do a Save As a web page and direct the output to a folder where you can find it. Assuming that you can do that successfully, then go to the "Promotional-BagsN.html" file and double click it. Does it preview in IE7 then? Try opening the same file in FF...what happens? 4. You mentioned again that you upload "single pages as am html, together with its corresponding file." and previously talked about a folder containing the images. Publisher 2000 does not produce a folder for just the images, nor is there any folder if I do a web page preview and then do a save as a complete web page from IE. What folder are you talking about? 5. There are many ways of skinning a cat...or producing web pages, but when I look at your home page: http://justincentives.com/ and look at the source code, it is not like any code I have ever seen produced for Publisher 2000. Are each and every page on your site produced by doing a web page preview and then saving as a web page from IE? Perhaps the way you were taught is something entirely different than I have seen before. How is your directory organized? After we get an answer to the issue at hand, perhaps I can suggest a better way of organizing your site, and using multiple Pub files to build it. DavidF > Hope this works > http://download.yousendit.com/9CC57ED457E955B4 [quoted text clipped - 178 lines] >> >> >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save >> >> >> >> > graphics Hi David, I have answered you below in " ......." 1. Is your D drive a data drive partition on your local hard drive, or is it an external drive? "LOCAL HARD DRIVE" 2. Right click your Pub file, properties, and how big is the file? "112190Kb" 3. What happens if you make sure your Pub file is on your C drive, you open it, you then do a Save As a web page and direct the output to a folder where you can find it. Assuming that you can do that successfully, then go to the "Promotional-BagsN.html" file and double click it. Does it preview in IE7. "NO" then? Try opening the same file in FF...what happens? "Same result" 4. You mentioned again that you upload "single pages as an html, together with its corresponding file." and previously talked about a folder containing the images. Publisher 2000 does not produce a folder for just the images, "(yes it can from the preview, saving as a complete web page)" nor is there any folder if I do a web page preview and then do a save as a complete web page from IE. What folder are you talking about? "I create a save folder called Justincentives, and add each HTML page, with each image folder to it. As I said before, this way it seems easier to edit a single page when necessary." 5. There are many ways of skinning a cat...or producing web pages, but when I look at your home page: http://justincentives.com/ ; and look at the source code, it is not like any code I have ever seen produced for Publisher 2000. Are each and every page on your site produced by doing a web page preview and then saving as a web page from IE? "YES" Perhaps the way you were taught is something entirely different than I have seen before. How is your directory organized? After we get an answer to the issue at hand, perhaps I can suggest a better way of organizing your site, and using multiple Pub files to build it. "I am doing this in Publisher 2003, but still need to service my older websites built in Pub 2000" I am sending you 2 more jpegs showing the saved files in my local drive Regards David Balaam I have good news and bad news. The good news is I learned something new about Pub 2000 today, and think I figured out your problem. I now understand what you have been talking about when you talked about the folder containing the images. I didn't realize until today that if you do a web page preview with a Pub 2000 webpage, that when you do a File > Save As a Web page, complete...from IE, that you get both a "thispage.html" file and a "thispage_files" folder that contains the images from that page. I had no idea that you could do that with Pub 2000...thanks. Now the bad news...this doesn't work in Pub 2003...or 2007. MSFT changed to a different html coding engine with Pub 2002, and continued to tweak it in Pub 2003 and 2007. In fact that is part of the reason that I have continued to use Pub 2000. I prefer Pub 2000 code among other things. I am assuming that you just switched to Pub 2003, and that was when you started having problems, correct? While I don't get the error message that you do, when I try to save as from IE6, I do get the .html file, but the accompanying folder has only the background image, and none of the other images are copied to that folder. Assuming I am correct about the Pub 2003 pages being the problem, then your best solution is to go back to using Pub 2000. You can have both installed on your computer, just make sure to do a custom install, and install the second version installed in its own folder vs. the default folder. Generally the best way is to install 2000, and then do a custom install of 2003, and choose to not overwrite 2000....but as long as each are installed in separate folders you should be ok. Alternatively, if you really want to use Pub 2003, then you will have to produce your pages in a different manner, that I can explain if you want. However, it will require you to produce each page with a separate Pub file...let me know. If I have guessed wrong about you having the problems with pages produced with Pub 2003, then post back, and maybe try Mary's suggestion about how to fix the graphic filter. DavidF > Hi David, I have answered you below in " ......." > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Regards > David Balaam Good morning David Glad you now understand how I have been working in Pub 2000. I know this does not work in Pub 2003 and have infact removed it in case it was the problem blocking Pub 2000, I appricate all your advise and time - its good to know there are people still out there willing to help. I have decided to do a complete reinstall of Pub 2000 and hope that solves any problems. I will let you know. Kind regards David SignatureDavid Balaam > I have good news and bad news. The good news is I learned something new > about Pub 2000 today, and think I figured out your problem. I now understand [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > Regards > > David Balaam I did know you were working with Pub 2000, but you did not mention that you switched to Pub 2003 until the end. If you are saying that only the pages that you created with Pub 2003 now don't work with Pub 2000, then you may have to rebuild those pages in Pub 2000. It may be that when you switched back to Pub 2000, and did a Save As Pub 2000 format, that the 2003 pages did not convert correctly, and the problem you are having with those pages has nothing to do with your current installation of Pub 2000. As your file size is getting very large, it might be wise to just create new Pub files to rebuild the pages that you "corrupted" with Pub 2003. Good luck. DavidF > Good morning David > Glad you now understand how I have been working in Pub 2000. [quoted text clipped - 124 lines] >> > Regards >> > David Balaam http://download.yousendit.com/3220F4094C52E9A7 http://download.yousendit.com/6FCAB8AF4462ACFB SignatureDavid Balaam > David, > [quoted text clipped - 219 lines] > >> >> >> >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save > >> >> >> >> > graphics Are you in UK or USA?? It's 11.0pm here so need to get some rest. Its also holiday in UK tomorrow so I am around some of the day. Do you want to Skype me. David Balaam Ashtead UK Goodnight and thanks SignatureDavid Balaam Mary, You have answered this a zillion times, but if you would again... What is, and where is the graphics filter for .jpgs and .gifs. You have suggested in the past to rename these as "old", and then repairing or reinstalling the filters. Assuming Pub 2000, could you give the instructions on how to do this please? Thanks. DavidF > You receive a "Not enough memory to load graphics or embedded objects" > error message when you open a Publisher publication [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics The filters are in a folder similar to this C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\Grphflt Find JPEGIMP32.FLT and rename it to JPEGIMP32.OLD. Does it have a 12-07-1998 timestamp? Insert Disk 1 of Office 2000, Right-click, click explore, PFILES, COMMON, MSShared, Grphfit folder, drag a new instance of the graphics filter to the folder. My 2000 filter has the above timestamp. My present filter is much newer 10-26-2006. Sometimes this will cure the problem, sometimes not. SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com > Mary, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>> >>> Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Thanks Mary. I suspect now that David's problem is not with the filter, but if I have guessed wrong, he now has the information to try. DavidF > The filters are in a folder similar to this > C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\Grphflt [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>>> >>>> Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Hello Mary Last week I posted a message which you replied to thank you, and I have since had a number of conversations with DavidF. Briefly, I use Pub 2000 and I lost the ability to see any graphics, jpegs and gifs, in preview. The message was ' cannot open graphic on page. Maybe too large a file or not enough disc space' Neither of which are correct. You suggested going to a Microsoft help page which listed the actual wording I was getting. However, after following their suggestions still no change, I also followed your suggestion about changing the JPEGIMP32.FLT file. Mine is now dated 30.05.07. I also did a total re-install of Pub 2000 which has given be back the ability to see JEPEG's, but not GIF's. So some result but not 100%. Do you have any more ideas as to why GIF's are not showing in Publisher. ( I can see any graphic in any other application, or from the desktop) Hope you can help Kind regards David Balaam (London) SignatureDavid Balaam > You receive a "Not enough memory to load graphics or embedded objects" error > message when you open a Publisher publication [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Excuse me for butting in here, but if you managed to get the .jpg files to preview by renaming JPEGIMP32.FLT to JPEGIMP32.old then do the same with the gif filter: GIFGIMP32.FLT and see if that helps. DavidF > Hello Mary > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >> > >> > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics Publisher is getting worst in 2007 edition you can not save a web design as a web page . What's up with this people? > I have used Pub 2000 for a long time and have 6 websites with it. > Recently I have been working on Pub 2000 and in 'Preview a Page' it now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics
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