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Panos - 20 May 2008 14:41 GMT Hello,
I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it???
DavidF - 20 May 2008 15:02 GMT Go to Tools > Options > web tab and uncheck "rely on vml..." and "allow png". This will fix most cross browser issues. If it does not work for you, then post a link to a page where you are having problems, and specifically tell us what is not working.
DavidF
> Hello, > > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? Panos - 20 May 2008 16:38 GMT I always use these settings you mentioned above..
The problem is in these pages:
1)http://www.europe-hotels.gr/london ( the "book now" button is not displayed correctly"
2) http://www.europe-hotels.gr ( on the left top corner displayed only the greek flag but i have also the british flag with the translation in english )
3) http://www.europe-hotels.gr/index_UnitedKingdom_Ireland_Netherlands.htm i think in this pag is the most serious problem, when i open this page i get a small window that is written " access for ftp://190.28.xx.xxx and asking for user name and password"
I have find all these problems in my brother's computer that use VISTA and Firefox
Do you know what i can do?
Thanks a lot Panagiotis Papadopoulos
> Go to Tools > Options > web tab and uncheck "rely on vml..." and "allow > png". This will fix most cross browser issues. If it does not work for you, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in > > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? DavidF - 20 May 2008 18:08 GMT 1. The book now button is displaying correctly. Look at its position as compared to the text in the middle column. What isn't displaying correctly is the text in the right hand column listing the hotels. Notice how the spacing between the different hotel listings is much bigger in FF? This is probably a formatting problem, but it is hard to troubleshoot without seeing the Pub file. Can you describe to me how you formatted that text box? Run the design checker and maybe it will tell you what you are doing wrong.
If you haven't already downloaded and installed FF on your computer you should do so if only to text your site. It is a small download and an easy install. Once you have it installed you can direct the html output when you Publish to the Web to somewhere on your computer where you can find the files. Then right click the .htm file and open with FF.
2 and 3 are probably caused by the use of a Master Page. You should not use a Master Page with a Publisher web publication. Move the images on the Master Page to the main publication page, and try it again. And it never hurts to run the Design Checker...
DavidF
>I always use these settings you mentioned above.. > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? Panos - 20 May 2008 18:59 GMT Thank you David,
1. In my pub file in order to get the " Book now" button in the correct position that i wanted, i had placed it on the text of the hotels...with that way when i made web page preview i got it in the correct place. So actually thats mean that the problem is in Internet explorer and not in firefox..i didnt know about the design checker, so now when i run it i got " story in text in overflow" but it couldnt fix the problem. I will try to redisign my page maybe i have make there some mistakes
2 and 3) ok i will try to remove the things from the master page, but in other websites i hadnt any problem with the master page and the FF.
Thanks a lot for the advises Panos
> 1. The book now button is displaying correctly. Look at its position as > compared to the text in the middle column. What isn't displaying correctly [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in > >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? DavidF - 21 May 2008 19:45 GMT You might try clear all the formatting from that text box. Select it, Format
> Styles and Formatting > Clear Formatting. You will probably need to change the font and font size again, and possibly resize your text box, but the text box will probably render the same in FF and IE.
DavidF
> Thank you David, > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >> >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? Panos - 21 May 2008 23:59 GMT I tryied but unfortunatelly it dosent work, tomorrow i will try to delete all the page and redign it from the start..but i am not very optimistic because just now i checked my website in many other browsers and in some of them the graphic display is like a mess.. anyway i am happy that 87% of my visitors use IE :)
> You might try clear all the formatting from that text box. Select it, Format > > Styles and Formatting > Clear Formatting. You will probably need to change [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > >> >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? Panos - 23 May 2008 18:47 GMT Dear David,
I have remove the master page as you told me and still i get this error when anyone trying to access any other page ( except the home page ) with FIREFOX
Access FTP://190.238.xx.xxx please enter user name and password
Do you know anything else that i can do???? you can see it here http://www.bratislava.gr
Thanks Panos
> I tryied but unfortunatelly it dosent work, tomorrow i will try to delete all > the page and redign it from the start..but i am not very optimistic because [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > > >> >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in > > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? DavidF - 23 May 2008 19:26 GMT Panos,
I checked each link on the main menu in http://www.bratislava.gr/ in FF and had no problem. Are you sure you are talking about this site?
However the original link you gave me with the FTP problem was: http://www.europe-hotels.gr/index_UnitedKingdom_Ireland_Netherlands.htm and it does still have the problem. It also appears that you have not removed the content from the master page on that page. The Europe-hotels...green banner image in the upper left corner behind the flags does not load, so it appears that at least that is still on the master page. Try again?
DavidF
> Dear David, > [quoted text clipped - 145 lines] >> > >> >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in >> > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? Panos - 23 May 2008 20:01 GMT The main page of www.bratislava.gr has not any problem, the problem i mentioned is in any other page..try to click from the main page to "hotels" or " image gallery" or any other page... there i found the problem...
Yes in http://www.europe-hotels.gr/index_UnitedKingdom_Ireland_Netherlands.htm i havent remove yet the master page ( i wanted first to test the bratislava.gr to see if works )
Ο χρήστης "DavidF" έγγραψε:
> Panos, > [quoted text clipped - 160 lines] > >> > >> >> > I use Publisher 2003 and my website is not displayed correct in > >> > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix it??? DavidF - 23 May 2008 23:17 GMT The bad news...there is no bad news. Every page from the main menu, hotels, image gallery, attractions, flights, and contact us work just fine in FF....at least for me. I just tried them again. Perhaps if you are still having problems with those pages, try emptying your internet cache before you view those pages, and/or CTRL + F5 to force a reload. FF seems to do a very good job of caching pages...and perhaps that is why you are still getting the error.
Someone else out there want to try these pages with FF and see if I am just lucky? We would appreciate your help.
And by the way, that popup script you use on the photo gallery is cool...
DavidF
> The main page of www.bratislava.gr has not any problem, the problem i > mentioned is in any other page..try to click from the main page to [quoted text clipped - 200 lines] >> >> > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix >> >> > >> >> > it??? Panos - 24 May 2008 16:58 GMT Yes you were right...i have delete all the temporary internet files and the cache and now finally it works good:) the only problem i have ( and i would like please to check if you can see the same) is in the first page the " History of Bratislava" and " Weather in Bratislava" hyperlinks it dosent work... ( in FF )
Do you have any idea what could be the problem?
> The bad news...there is no bad news. Every page from the main menu, hotels, > image gallery, attractions, flights, and contact us work just fine in [quoted text clipped - 215 lines] > >> >> > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix > >> >> > >> >> > it??? DavidF - 24 May 2008 18:48 GMT That is good news...glad it is working now.
My first guess as to why the History and Weather links don't work in FF, is that you have those text boxes grouped together or with some other design element on your page. Open your Pub doc, and select one of the text boxes...is it grouped with another design element? There will be a little icon that looks like two squares within a square below the group of elements that are grouped together...ungroup them and see if that fixes the problem. Generally use "grouping" to layout your page, but before you publish it, ungroup. Then if you need to move things later, just regroup before you move them.
And since you brought the subject up, if you mouseover your bottom navbar, you will notice those links don't work either in FF. Once again the problem is grouping, but the solution is a bit different. This time you will need to ungroup the bottom navbar from the side navbar that you built with the Publisher navbar wizard. Select the bottom navbar, go to Arrange > Ungroup. Before you do this though, you need to know that once you do this if you want to add another page to that website the navbar wizard will let you add a navbar button to the side navbar, but not the bottom one. I usually recommend that you wait to do this until you are pretty sure that you won't be adding any pages to the main menu, but as you probably won't be adding any pages to the main site, this probably won't be a problem. If you do decide later to add a page, you can manually add the link to the bottom navbar, or even rebuild the navbar.
Let me know if ungrouping the History and Weather text boxes fixes those links...
DavidF
> Yes you were right...i have delete all the temporary internet files and > the [quoted text clipped - 248 lines] >> >> >> > >> >> > MozilaFirefox Browser, is anything that i can do to fix >> >> >> > >> >> > it??? Panos - 24 May 2008 19:41 GMT Great!! the ungrouping for the bottom links works...but for the "hisotry" link i cannot use it becuase its not grouping.
I have add another history link exactly below the origianl "history", in this link i didnt add colour in the text box ( the green colour ) and i see it works...so do you think the problem can be the format of the text box?
Also David i want to ask you another question to tell me if you know..what you think is better for the search engines:
1) to add a hyperlink to another page of my website through ex. "page3" 2) or to add like http://www.bratislava.gr/index_history.htm
I mean that a search engine is better to see the link like URL or like internal website link???
> That is good news...glad it is working now. > [quoted text clipped - 265 lines] > >> >> >> > >> >> work for > >> >> >> > >> >> you, DavidF - 25 May 2008 00:09 GMT Panos,
Sometimes a fill color can convert the whole text box to an image and kill the link. Try changing the fill color to a solid color instead of the gradient fill color, and see if that works.
Page 3 or index_history.htm ? I am not an expert on search engine optimization, but I have read where having a descriptive file name is better. That would mean the index_history.htm page would be better.
DavidF
> Great!! the ungrouping for the bottom links works...but for the "hisotry" > link i cannot use it becuase its not grouping. [quoted text clipped - 322 lines] >> >> >> >> > >> >> work for >> >> >> >> > >> >> you, Panos - 25 May 2008 01:43 GMT Yes its true, the problem is the mixed colours in the textboxes..i tried with a single colour and it works but finally becuase i like the gradient fill color i have add a hot spot on the text box in order to solve the problem..now its ok.
Now that you help me with all issues about the FF, its time for work, i have to correct it in all my websites.
David thanks a lot for your valuable advises!!!
Best regards Panos
> Panos, > [quoted text clipped - 268 lines] > >> >> >> >> > >> not > >> >> >> >> > >> use DavidF - 25 May 2008 04:02 GMT That is a good workaround...thanks for sharing it.
As you edit the rest of your site, remember how fill color can convert all the text in a text box to an image. When you are doing a small "button like" text box like your History links buttons, I think your approach is the best idea. However, if the text box is large, or perhaps your primary message, you don't want that to be converted to an image. The search engines spiders can't index images...they can't read the converted text. So even if there isn't a link in that text, you should generally try to avoid converting your text to an image. Your "button" is an exception...there really isn't any text to read...the robots will just read the link.
To test to see if the text has been converted to an image try to left click, drag and select some text in the web preview in FF. If you can't select the text, it has been converted to an image.
Then if you really want the fill color look, and want the text to stay text there is another workaround. Remove all fill from the primary text box. Then create another text box that is the same size as the primary text box. If you go to Arrange > Snap and make sure all the options are checked, then when you draw the second text box on top of the first, the sides will snap to each other and you will have two identical sized text boxes. Then fill the second text box with the fill color you want, and go to the Arrange menu and send the second text box to the back and you will see it through the first text box with the text that is clear. You will end up with the same look as you had before, but this way the text will remain text, and any hyperlinks will remain active when you publish your page.
You are welcome. I think you will be able to troubleshoot any other cross browser issues now, but feel free to post back. Good luck to you.
DavidF
> Yes its true, the problem is the mixed colours in the textboxes..i tried > with [quoted text clipped - 332 lines] >> >> >> >> >> > >> not >> >> >> >> >> > >> use
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