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kenandana - 19 Feb 2004 14:59 GMT

how do I get the body text to move up the page in the source code, but not
on the webpage.
The navigation bars push it down to where it shouldn't be.

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David Bartosik - MS MVP - 19 Feb 2004 18:12 GMT

huh? the code is read top down by the browser, the placement in the code
renders it's placement on the page output. The browser does have control
over sizing of cells when applicable.
I'd recommend you read http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub2k/pub2k_4.htm

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> how do I get the body text to move up the page in the source code, but not
> on the webpage.
> The navigation bars push it down to where it shouldn't be.

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kenandana - 20 Feb 2004 09:20 GMT

Thanks David,
I dont think I explained it properly. Below is an example of what I mean.
I am wondering if anyone knows how this is achieved. I use publisher 2000
and have done for many years, to put up 2 websites. I use an html editor to
make the changes after designing and changing in publisher.
"Unfortunately, many Web sites are designed to include navigation links down
the left-hand side of the screen. Typically, this side-bar navigation is
implemented in one or more HTML table cells. By default, your navigation
links will appear in your first table cell.

So, what do you do if you want your body text to appear as the first cell in
order to improve keyword prominence, but still need your navigation links to
appear on the left side of your Web page? Fortunately, there is a solution
by taking advantage of the ROWSPAN property of an HTML table.

When using tables, a simple rearrangement of table cells can move your body
text to the top of the HTML code without changing the screen layout. "

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David Bartosik - MS MVP - 20 Feb 2004 14:41 GMT

> I dont think I explained it properly. Below is an example of what I mean.
> I am wondering if anyone knows how this is achieved. I use publisher 2000
> and have done for many years, to put up 2 websites. I use an html editor to
> make the changes after designing and changing in publisher.

I recommend against making edits to Pub html because the changes are lost
each time the site is modified and resaved. Also Pub's coding can be complex
even for an experienced html coder.
What is it you are editing? If you feel you can't accomplish something with
an object you can always code it with an html code fragment. Did you
consider the latter?

> "Unfortunately, many Web sites are designed to include navigation links down
> the left-hand side of the screen. Typically, this side-bar navigation is
> implemented in one or more HTML table cells. By default, your navigation
> links will appear in your first table cell.

Where's this coming from?
"unfortunately"? It's actually standard web practice.
That last sentence is totally bogus.

> So, what do you do if you want your body text to appear as the first cell in
> order to improve keyword prominence, but still need your navigation links to
> appear on the left side of your Web page? Fortunately, there is a solution
> by taking advantage of the ROWSPAN property of an HTML table.

Oh, are you listening to one of those so called optimizer gurus? The search
engines are constantly changing in response to these practices.

> When using tables, a simple rearrangement of table cells can move your body
> text to the top of the HTML code without changing the screen layout. "

So are you manipulating the table coding Publisher writes. That's a really
bad idea. If your page gets hosed that's no surprise to me.

Leave the coding to Publisher. If you want to write your own code use
FrontPage.

Fyi, the nav bar object Publisher creates can be placed anywhere on the
page, and you have no control over what cell of what table it is coded.

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kenandana - 20 Feb 2004 17:19 GMT

I see that you are being equally as unhelpful as you were in my last
query.... I guess I should be on my way, after 4 or 5 years of having very
good response to queries, obviously something has bugged you.
well, I guess we all have a bad day, sorry for you....

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Don Schmidt - 20 Feb 2004 17:32 GMT

Me thinks you are reading something into David's message that isn't there.
He's always given up front advice whenever called upon.

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> I see that you are being equally as unhelpful as you were in my last
> query.... I guess I should be on my way, after 4 or 5 years of having very
> good response to queries, obviously something has bugged you.
> well, I guess we all have a bad day, sorry for you....

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