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Lisa - 08 Jun 2004 13:31 GMT
I created a web site with Publisher.  My site has numerous photos.  I'm having difficulty because once created the site doesn't load like it should nad it doesn't "treat" each photo like a photo.  It "treats" it as if it is part of the background.  It shows that is is embedded.  This makes the page load very slow.  It looks as if it is done loading when no pictures are visible, then slowly the pictures start to appear.  Does anyone have any suggestions
Thanks
Lis
David Bartosik - MS MVP - 08 Jun 2004 13:46 GMT
You don't state the version.
Each version is different with web design.
If you are using 2003 the first thing you can do is to not use original
images as Pub 2003 will retain the size and resolution of them. Instead you
need you use a photo editor first to save the images in a smaller size and
resolution (96dpi). Then use those smaller images in the Pub 2003 page. Also
use photos sparingly. You can add more pages and spread photos out rather
then dump several on a page.

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> I created a web site with Publisher.  My site has numerous photos.  I'm having difficulty because once created the site doesn't load like it should
nad it doesn't "treat" each photo like a photo.  It "treats" it as if it is
part of the background.  It shows that is is embedded.  This makes the page
load very slow.  It looks as if it is done loading when no pictures are
visible, then slowly the pictures start to appear.  Does anyone have any
suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Lisa
damzish - 08 Jun 2004 20:36 GMT
What if the page is a gallery page?
David Bartosik - MS MVP - 08 Jun 2004 21:08 GMT
Any image should be sized and reduced to 96 dpi before being inserted into
any Publisher page in version 2003 for best results.

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enter to win Pub 2003:
www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx

> What if the page is a gallery page?
Lisa - 14 Jun 2004 23:49 GMT
Hi David,
It is publisher 2003.  The problem seems to be that Publisher 2003 embeds each photo into the background.  Is there some way, other than making the photo a link, to stop Publisher from embedding the photo into the background.  I'm a photographer, and this web site is for my business, so I need quite a few photos on each page.  My home page only has four photos of very small size and it still takes forever to load becuase of the embedding issue.  www.lisagunnoe.com
Thanks,
Lisa

> You don't state the version.
> Each version is different with web design.
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> > Thanks,
> > Lisa
David Bartosik - MS MVP - 16 Jun 2004 04:18 GMT
Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects. This
is covered on the FAQ - www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm
A quick look at your page and I see you applied a border/shadow to each
image BAM that would do it. If you want the image to be edited in such a way
without embedding you'd have to design the image that way in a photo editor
and insert it into pub already done that way.
You also have the filled text boxes as a background area behind the image
collection, that could also be a factor. I'd suggest pulling off the border
work on one of the images and test it to see if it still embeds the image,
if so then remove the background fills and test again.
Note that if you were using a web design program such as FrontPage, you
would have to create that whole thing in a graphic editor and then splice
it. In other words Publisher saves you some time but has limitations.
You can manually "link" images - see
http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub2002/pub2002_26.htm - but you wouldn't be
able to layer them with the background designs.
Publisher is working as it's intended, as it needs to, to produce your
design.
I very nice design, good job, btw.
If you design the images solo on a plain background you'll get a faster load
time. Welcome to web design. You have to deal with finding a balance (or
not) between load time and the design you want.
You might look over the articles at www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm - some of
them may be helpful.

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> Hi David,
> It is publisher 2003.  The problem seems to be that Publisher 2003 embeds each photo into the background.  Is there some way, other than making the
photo a link, to stop Publisher from embedding the photo into the
background.  I'm a photographer, and this web site is for my business, so I
need quite a few photos on each page.  My home page only has four photos of
very small size and it still takes forever to load becuase of the embedding
issue.  www.lisagunnoe.com
> Thanks,
> Lisa
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Lisa
analog@logwell.com - 16 Jun 2004 07:27 GMT
Honestly, for a commercial site, the best advice is to forget about Publisher.
Go with Dreamweaver and avoid the problems with Publisher and FrontPage
altogether.  Now ducking in anticipation of MVP wrath...

>Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects. This
>is covered on the FAQ - www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>You might look over the articles at www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm - some of
>them may be helpful.
JL Paules - 16 Jun 2004 22:10 GMT
No wrath on my part. You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to
mine.I'd recommend FrontPage but I prefer M$'s products and have for years,
long before I ever heard of MVPs. (I used your abbreviation to make you
smile.)

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> Honestly, for a commercial site, the best advice is to forget about Publisher.
> Go with Dreamweaver and avoid the problems with Publisher and FrontPage
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> >You might look over the articles at www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm - some of
> >them may be helpful.
analog@logwell.com - 16 Jun 2004 22:58 GMT
Indeed, you did make me smile!  Thank you.  I use many M$ products, but they
just never seem to be ready for prime time.  Of course that is not unique to M$;
much of the software out here is as buggy or worse than M$ products.

>No wrath on my part. You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to
>mine.I'd recommend FrontPage but I prefer M$'s products and have for years,
>long before I ever heard of MVPs. (I used your abbreviation to make you
>smile.)
Lisa - 17 Jun 2004 05:43 GMT
Hi David,
Thank you much.  I will work on it and see if I can get Publisher to do what I need it to do.  I really don't want to get another program.  As you can tell, I don't need fancy this or that for my web site.  I'm after simple elegance.  I like Publisher because I can do most anything I want with it.  Sure hope I can work this out.
Thanks again for your help... I will check it out this weekend and keep you posted.
Lisa

> Publisher embeds the images IF you layer the image with other objects. This
> is covered on the FAQ - www.davidbartosik.com/faq.htm
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> You might look over the articles at www.davidbartosik.com/web.htm - some of
> them may be helpful.
 
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