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MARTIN - 09 Dec 2003 19:24 GMT
I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME COOL CALENDARS WITH
PUBLISHER 2000 BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS... FIRT
AND MOST IMPORTAND IS.. HOW CAN AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE
INFO ABOUT HOLIDAYS IN THE SAME CALENDAR (EX. MARTIN'S
LUTHER KING DAY... VETERANS DAY, THANKS GIVING DAY ETC)
AND HOW CAN I ENTER INFO IN ONE SQUARE WITH OUT MESSING
UP THE REST OF THE DOCUMENTS?
THANK YOU TO ANYONE AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP ME
WITH THIS PROBLEM!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP] - 09 Dec 2003 19:32 GMT
Hi MARTIN (AZTCEAGLE@SBCGLOBAL.NET),
in the Microsoft? newsgroups
you posted:

|| I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME COOL CALENDARS WITH
|| PUBLISHER 2000 BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS... FIRT
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|| WITH THIS PROBLEM!
|| HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

YOU CAN'T AUTOMAGICALLY ADD HOLIDAYS USING PUBLISHER. YOU NEED TO USE
MICROSOFT OUTLOOK OR MICROSOFT WORKS CALENDAR!

AS FOR THE SQUARE, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO REDUCE YOUR FONT SIZE.

PLEASE TURN off your caps when posting. Thanks.

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???MS?Publisher??? - 10 Dec 2003 07:17 GMT
Don't worry about junk stupid holidays like Veterans Day.  Insert something
useful like Peace or Animals  Day there instead.

The only way to easily do this is to Merge the information.

In future don't post in capitals as it is considered to be very rude as it
indicates you are shouting at people.

--
DavidJ01 - 10 Dec 2003 20:45 GMT
AS LONG AS YOU'RE A COMMIE, A FASCIST PIG, OR SOME STUPID IDIOT,  I GUESS
THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

> Don't worry about junk stupid holidays like Veterans Day.  Insert something
> useful like Peace or Animals  Day there instead.
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> In future don't post in capitals as it is considered to be very rude as it
> indicates you are shouting at people.
°°°MS°Publisher°°° - 10 Dec 2003 20:53 GMT
Very appropriate comment from a 'person' who obviously has no idea what the word 'fascist' means.

How about you organise the release of all the people illegally held at Guantanamo Bay.
Those people at Guantanamo Bay are being held in inhumane conditions and being tortured and denied civil rights.
How about you stop posting in capitals and refrain from being so rude.

The meaning appears to fit America perfectly with their illegal invasion of Iraq.

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>
- fas·cist  /-shist also -sist/ noun or adjective, often capitalized
- fas·cis·tic  /fa-'shis-tik also -'sis-/ adjective, often capitalized
- fas·cis·ti·cal·ly  /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb, often capitalized --

> AS LONG AS YOU'RE A COMMIE, A FASCIST PIG, OR SOME STUPID IDIOT,  I GUESS
> THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE
JL Amerson - 10 Dec 2003 20:53 GMT
David - Which branch of the military did you serve?

JoAnn
US Army 1974-75

> Don't worry about junk stupid holidays like Veterans Day.  Insert something
> useful like Peace or Animals  Day there instead.
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>
> --
DavidJ01 - 10 Dec 2003 20:56 GMT
Army.  125th Tropic Lightning Division.  Bravo Co.  Vulcan Air Defense.

David...

> David - Which branch of the military did you serve?
>
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> >
> > --
???MS?Publisher??? - 10 Dec 2003 21:06 GMT
That was those little pansies division that sat around playing cards and
folded paper planes in different color paper to throw at each other.  What
an absolute bunch of losers!!!  Anybody that has anything to do with the
military are failures to get a job in the real world.  They need to get a
job in sheltered workshops and environments.  Total and complete failures of
society.

> Army.  125th Tropic Lightning Division.  Bravo Co.  Vulcan Air Defense.
>
> David...
JL Amerson - 10 Dec 2003 21:23 GMT
And the wonderful thing is that because your country has a military to
protect you and your right to utter gibberish, you can say things like that.

> That was those little pansies division that sat around playing cards and
> folded paper planes in different color paper to throw at each other.  What
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> >
> > David...
DavidJ01 - 10 Dec 2003 21:35 GMT
JL,

I suspect he isn't from America.  Regardless, he's still entitled to his
opinions no matter how shallow they are.

> And the wonderful thing is that because your country has a military to
> protect you and your right to utter gibberish, you can say things like that.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> > >
> > > David...
JL Amerson - 10 Dec 2003 21:56 GMT
He's not American, and is probably turning green and other lovely colors at
the idea of something thinking he is. (Aren't you David?)

He still is entitled to his opinions thanks to his government having a
military to protect his rights, as are we. The sad thing is he really seems
to know Publisher quite well and I'm learning to tune out his xenophobic
comments.  :-)

> JL,
>
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> > > >
> > > > David...
DavidJ01 - 11 Dec 2003 00:20 GMT
From what I've seen while occasionally browsing this NG, (as I'm waiting for
my 30 day trial of Publisher 2003 to arrive) I'd have to agree with you.  He
seems very competent with Publisher, it's to bad he has to throw in his
"Anti-American" rants.  NG's of this nature are designed to help each other,
not to dish out political, religious or racial commentary.  There's plenty
of that to be found with mIRC :-)

David...

> He's not American, and is probably turning green and other lovely colors at
> the idea of something thinking he is. (Aren't you David?)
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> > > > >
> > > > > David...
Mike Koewler - 11 Dec 2003 01:12 GMT
David, David, David,

Did you really, in you wildest hallucinations, presume for a nanosecond
that I would let such an utter misuse of electrons and pathetic
misstatements of facts go unanswered? Or did you post it to give me
something to reply to? Either way, the end result is similar.

I have no doubt that in their spare time, some GIs sit around playing
cards, folding paper into planes and doing other things normal human
beings do. Then they go out and risk their lives, without giving it a
second thought, to try to make life better for those they are assigned
to protect/liberate. They take care of others who are incapable, wither
because of circumstance or fear to take of themselves. They give people
around the world the ability to live with dignity, without fear, in a
better condition than they were used to under the tyrants or dictators
who lorded over them as used them as slaves.

Not skilled? Failures to get a job in the real world? What UFO did you
in yesterday. Many of the men and women serving in the Armed Forces in
active duty are fully employed, as teachers, doctors, cooks, engineers,
salesmen, nurses, mechanics - the list is as long as the gamut of
careers available. They are not high school drop outs, bums or society's
flotsam. They have to pass aptitude and IQ tests to get into the
military, and they require a person to above average intelligence in
several different areas. Please, if you don't know what you are talking
about, let people think you are ignorant. Don't type erroneous messages
and remove all doubt from their mind.

Furthermore, most employers will look at four years experience in the
military and figure it is worth 8-10 years employment in the private
sector. Why? Because in the military, soldiers, sailors or marines are
working - a full shift, every day, every hour, every minute. They do
things for the good of each other and the country and people they serve,
not so they can get a bonus at the end of the year. What happens if they
perform at an extraordinary level, one that most people in the private
sector would never consider doing unless they are paid time and a half
or double time - they get a tiny insignia to place on their uniform.
That and $1 will get them a cup of coffee at the PX.

I could care less if you have any respect for people who risk their
lives protecting others, who earn about 1/6 of what they could in the
private sector, people who put their lives on hold and endure all kinds
of hardships. But if you think you can post the stuff you have and not
get a response, you do not know me.

I close with this quote: "Always will we remember the character of the
onslaught against us.  No matter how long it may take us to overcome
this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might
will win through to absolute victory."

Always will we have respect for the men and women serving to defend and
protect us. Always will we have scorn for those who denigrate these men
and women. Always will I defend them.

But you know this.

Merry Christmas,

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> That was those little pansies division that sat around playing cards and
> folded paper planes in different color paper to throw at each other.  What
> an absolute bunch of losers!!!  Anybody that has anything to do with the
> military are failures to get a job in the real world.  They need to get a
> job in sheltered workshops and environments.  Total and complete failures of
> society.
Thanee4c148 - 17 Dec 2003 14:36 GMT
I am Dam proud of my service in THE UNITED STARES NAVY. One thing for sure -yuo
have no idea what the phrase "He`s good people" means because u r trash. Your
addy tells it all--nobody home.
Too bad u never met Cdr. F. D. Hamblin, of the USS KILAUEA (AE4).His basic
orders were YOU are responsible and make DAM sure u r right.

THANE
Thanee4c148 - 18 Dec 2003 20:03 GMT
Should have read ALL of the comments before I sent that last message.Les Wilson
(a former editor) said it all about a similar persons actions." He is not worth
the time or paper for a comment". So I will not make further comment to
"nobodsy home". Suggest others IGNORE IT also.

Thane
Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP] - 10 Dec 2003 22:47 GMT
Hi DavidJ01 (DavidJ01@hasnoaddress.com)
in the Microsoft? newsgroups
you posted:

|| Army.  125th Tropic Lightning Division.  Bravo Co.  Vulcan Air
|| Defense.
||
|| David...

I was in the Army for 8 years (6 active) as an MP (32nd MP) 95 Bravo! Mostly
for college, and never went beyond a Specialist, but I never wanted to :-) I
was happy driving the Hummers all day ;-P

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DavidJ01 - 11 Dec 2003 00:08 GMT
Hey Brian,

Driving tracked vehicles was pretty cool also.  I loved cresting a hilltop
(field manuevers) and seeing nothing but clouds due to the limited
visability in a track vehicle.  Waiting for the front end to drop out from
underneath you was as fun as any rollercoaster ride!

Best Regards...

> Hi DavidJ01 (DavidJ01@hasnoaddress.com)
> in the Microsoft? newsgroups
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> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
JL Amerson - 11 Dec 2003 01:12 GMT
Gee, even tho I was trained as a microwave radio operator for the Pershing
missile system, all I got to do was play clerk typist. And that was after I
told them I can't type!!!

"Needs of the service"..........

JoAnn

> Hey Brian,
>
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> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> > confers no rights.
???MS?Publisher??? - 11 Dec 2003 01:28 GMT
Wow, some get wound up over nothing.
The sooner we disband the military and everybody learns to live in peace and
harmony the better.

I had great fun driving an old tracked vehicle, but when you got them stuck
in the mud, they sure took some removing.

--
DavidJ01 - 11 Dec 2003 02:01 GMT
"Don't worry about junk stupid holidays like Veterans Day" and your
subsequent post about "little pansies"...  And you say people get worked up
over nothing?   As a patriot and an ex-serviceman, you bet I'll get "worked
up" over that.  I'm proud and thankful of the servicemen (and women) that
are serving now, and that have served in years gone by.  People who believe
that freedom is worth fighting and dying for are worthy of the honor that we
can give them.

As far as living in peace....  you need to study human psychology.

> Wow, some get wound up over nothing.
> The sooner we disband the military and everybody learns to live in peace and
> harmony the better.
???MS?Publisher??? - 11 Dec 2003 02:24 GMT
Nothing wrong with being a patriot - but now you need to go and be a true
patriotic and get all those illegally held prisoners at Guatonomo  Bay
freed.  After they are freed, the land at Guatonomo Bay needs to be returned
to the sovereign state of Cuba.

Never be proud of people that want to have anything to do with violence.
Peace is the way and the future of the world.  We just need to sort out a
few little issues like Israel giving the occupied land back to the people
that rightfully own it, and a couple of other little jobs around the world
that need attention.  No need for any violence to accomplish it.  You need
to learn to live in peace and harmony with others.
--
Mike Koewler - 11 Dec 2003 04:22 GMT
Okay David,

Here is a 'what if' for you. Be honest, no matter how much it hurts.

My wife and I plot to kill you, your wife and a bunch of people you are
entertaining at a party (You do have friends, right?). We are partially
successful, but you, being one that feels that your home is your castle
and no one has a right to invade it, retaliate. Your friends and
comrades surround my home and try to take us prisoners. We resist,
killing a bunch of people you care about, but in the end, we are
overcome and taken prisoner. Now, Linda and I have avowed to destroy
you, your friends and everything you hold near and dear. Would you set
us free and give us an all expense trip back to Australia without us
having to answer or pay for our actions?

I eagerly anticipate your answer.

Merry Christmas,

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Nothing wrong with being a patriot - but now you need to go and be a true
> patriotic and get all those illegally held prisoners at Guatonomo  Bay
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> that need attention.  No need for any violence to accomplish it.  You need
> to learn to live in peace and harmony with others.
???MS?Publisher??? - 11 Dec 2003 23:37 GMT
You would not be a violent person wanting to kill anybody.

Those people in Guantanamo Bay are not criminals and are being held
illegally, in inhumane conditions and they should be freed.

--
Mike Koewler - 12 Dec 2003 00:04 GMT
David,

How do you know I would not be a violent person? I got a call yesterday
from an owner of a store who told me I was "menacing" and scared her
worker. I admit, I did ask for the "Corporate Office" phone number -
nicely - since the girl, who seemed to be about as mature as a mustard
seed, couldn't make a decision on whether to spend $4.00 to be part of
community event in its seventh year, and wouldn't call "corporate"
herself to get an okay.

As for the rest of your argument, I am more than willing to debate it
via e-mail. I would rather keep this NG focused toward helping those who
have questions about Pub or DTP.

Regards,

Mike
Thanee4c148 - 18 Dec 2003 18:37 GMT
A dollar to a donut you have never been to GTMO.iN COMPARISON to what some had
at home they now are in a hotel.They are better off than some in Caimanera just
across the bay,or even some in GTMO CITY
DavidJ01 - 11 Dec 2003 06:03 GMT
Interesting...

You want known & suspected terrorists freed, you want to further try and
"contain" a Jewish society that was nearly exterminated from this world, and
you defame the honor of those who died in world wars trying to make the
world a better place to live.   Yet when Bastet speaks her mind you want her
incarcerated for life because she's "firstly a Blitisher and secondly a
major problem adult". (See the thread you were involved in earlier today,
Publisher 2000 and internet explorer 6 Freezes computer)   I'm curious as to
what defines a major problem adult?  Someone who mass murders thousands of
his own people?  Someone who calls for other radicals to carry out terrorist
attacks?  Someone who builds a gigantic war machine and sweeps across
Europe, or is it simply just someone who speaks their mind?

I've heard this same sort of dribble from those who hate America and her
allies (would that be a Blitisher?), who are anti-Semitic, and would rather
make excuses for terrorists rather than face the truth about them.  It's
pathetic.

I assume you're not one of them...

> Nothing wrong with being a patriot - but now you need to go and be a true
> patriotic and get all those illegally held prisoners at Guatonomo  Bay
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> to learn to live in peace and harmony with others.
> --
Budget Print Center - 11 Dec 2003 11:10 GMT
nvm him... he just enjoys all the attention his instigated "off topic" riots
bring him. ;-/

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"Display tolerance & kindness to those with less
knowledge than you because there is ALWAYS
someone with more"

> Interesting...
>
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> > to learn to live in peace and harmony with others.
> > --
Budget Print Center - 11 Dec 2003 11:21 GMT
btw.. USNAVY DD Eisenhower 1983-1987 catapult steam shop.... Beiruit crisis
peacekeeping force. also assisted in keeping Mr qadafi from overrunning his
position.  MSPublisher also forgets the relatively inexpensive gasoline in
his motor vehicle that is constantly threatened to evaporate.

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> Interesting...
>
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> > to learn to live in peace and harmony with others.
> > --
DavidJ01 - 12 Dec 2003 21:34 GMT
Thanks for your service overseas !

David...

> btw.. USNAVY DD Eisenhower 1983-1987 catapult steam shop.... Beiruit crisis
> peacekeeping force. also assisted in keeping Mr qadafi from overrunning his
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> > > to learn to live in peace and harmony with others.
> > > --
???MS?Publisher??? - 12 Dec 2003 23:49 GMT
Did you see the Republican and Democrat Senators are telling them to release
those gentlemen they have illegally incarcerated in inhumane conditions and
being tortured by those ratbag US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

--
???MS?Publisher??? - 11 Dec 2003 23:41 GMT
Sure I want them free, as they are being denied human rights and justice.

Israel is occupying land they took by force and stole from those people and
they *must* return the land.

There is no honour for any person that fights in a war - they must have been
dumb or indoctrinated to go to war.

Ask Bastet/Sarah/Agnes/Haggard Aggie/Black Allis/Amethyst/Sarah/Cassandra
etc etc. why she should be incarcerated.  It is despicable she has not been.

--
Mike Koewler - 12 Dec 2003 00:10 GMT
David,

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:

> There is no honour for any person that fights in a war - they must have been
> dumb or indoctrinated to go to war.

Would you or would you not defend your wife if someone attacked her?
Would you or would you not take action against somebody who attempts to
rob you or cause you bodily harm. Be honest. If you and your wife are at
a restaurant enjoying your wedding anniversary, and somebody walks up
and jack-slaps her into tomorrow, would you continue eating your meal
like nothing happened?

Mike
???MS?Publisher??? - 12 Dec 2003 07:12 GMT
Mike, nobody would ever beat a beautiful women.
Secondly we are to well known for anybody to want to do any damage to us.
We are well known philanthropists to good and deserving causes, and doubt
anybody would ever want to attack us.
The type of restaurants we go to, you would be highly unlikely to find
anybody that would get  violent.

--
Ed Bennett - 12 Dec 2003 07:52 GMT
After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message
> Mike, nobody would ever beat a beautiful women.
You want to put money oon that?

> Secondly we are to well known for anybody to want to do any damage to
> us. We are well known philanthropists to good and deserving causes,
> and doubt anybody would ever want to attack us.
Ditto my first question.

> The type of restaurants we go to, you would be highly unlikely to find
> anybody that would get  violent.
Which types of restaurants are those?

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???MS?Publisher??? - 12 Dec 2003 08:40 GMT
Ed, where do you live?  Where I live there is no violence or problems of any
type.

--
Budget Print Center - 12 Dec 2003 10:45 GMT
"Where I live there is no violence or problems of any type."

No, Just alot of bigotry. I am really beginning to suspect that your age
is'nt  much greater than your shoe size. Any grown man with even a LITTLE
real-life experiece would'nt spout off half the self-contradicting add
misguided gibberish that you do.

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> Ed, where do you live?  Where I live there is no violence or problems of any
> type.
>
> --
Ed Bennett - 12 Dec 2003 16:40 GMT
After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message
> Ed, where do you live?  Where I live there is no violence or problems
> of any type.

I never said there were.  I merely asked if you would put money on the
"facts" (no cite or proof seen yet) that:
a) nobody would ever beat a beautiful women. (is that singular or plural?)
b) nobody would ever want to attack you

And enquired as to the types of restaurants that you frequent, where you
claim that I would be highly unlikely to find anyone violent.

And sure, it may be highly unlikely, but *not impossible*.

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DavidJ01 - 12 Dec 2003 21:21 GMT
And where do you live ?

Unless you are speaking about the confines of your home, or so far out in
the country that there are no neighbors for miles, then there is violence
and other problems.  To say otherwise is a lie.  And for clarification,
we're speaking about areas with at least a modest population.

If there is no violence or other problems (in your city, town, county,
hamlet, burg, or whatever you have there) why do you have locks on your
doors?  Why are there police and police stations?  Are there lawyers of
*ANY* type there?  Are there any pubs or bars there?  Have the auto body
shops repaired any vehicles as a result of damage from drunk driving?  Have
the medical facilities there treated anyone for anything that can be related
to a violent act?  Let's pull up the statistics on your area and see what
sort of "problems" actually do exist.

Once again you've shown ignorance with your posting of propaganda that is
without fact or basis, and can be easily disputed.

> Ed, where do you live?  Where I live there is no violence or problems of any
> type.
>
> --
???MS?Publisher??? - 12 Dec 2003 23:55 GMT
Look we have no issues at all.  We live in a very peaceful place of harmony
and love, and in tune with the environment and nature.

Our police are the trash of the earth and take that job as job of last
resort.  Our police lie and are despicable rude ignorant poorly educated
failed fools that could not get a job in the real world - just like those
that join the military forces.

Lawyers, judges/magistrates are the only thing worse than somebody who joins
the military - scum.  They have no idea of the meaning of justice.  The put
people away instead of rehabilitation and to educate them to a better more
meaningful life.

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Mike Koewler - 13 Dec 2003 00:36 GMT
David,

You have e-mail. I doubt you have the spine to respond to it, though.

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Look we have no issues at all.  We live in a very peaceful place of harmony
> and love, and in tune with the environment and nature.
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> people away instead of rehabilitation and to educate them to a better more
> meaningful life.
Mike Koewler - 13 Dec 2003 01:02 GMT
David,

I asked a simple, hypothetical question and you refuse to answer it.
Instead, you dodge the question, as answering it truthfully would either
show you are lying or you have no concern for those people who are
important to you.

Again, I'll ask the question, but I'll type it real slow: IF someone
came up to your wife in a restaurant and tried assaulting her, to the
point her life was in danger, would you respond or would you ignore it.
You can answer in one word if typing an explanation is too taxing on you
- yes or no?

If past history is any example, you will not answer or will dodge the
question. That's okay, it shows you have no validity or belief in your
views regarding this subject. Or it means that some lowly peon from the
United States has shown that a certain Australian is a legend in his own
mind.

To others reading this thread - I am sorry for taking up bandwidth. But,
I won't see my son this Christmas - he is serving our country. Worse
than that, a lot of parents will never see their son or daughter again -
they lost their life trying to protect us against those who would do us
harm. David is welcome to his opinions, as are all those who post here.
However, it would be more interesting if he would defend himself and his
view, rather than posting and running, without answering anything. I'll
try to keep correspondence with David to personal e-mails, if he has the
spine to reply.

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Look we have no issues at all.  We live in a very peaceful place of harmony
> and love, and in tune with the environment and nature.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> people away instead of rehabilitation and to educate them to a better more
> meaningful life.
DavidJ01 - 13 Dec 2003 01:55 GMT
Mike,

You're probably right, this isn't the proper forum for this discussion so I
guess I should back off in respect to others and the topic of this forum...
On the otherhand, I haven't heard any complaints from the other users or
moderators...  I'd love to take it somewhere else if possible.

That's a great letter you shared.  It was read on our local talk radio
station last week and it brought tears to my eyes.  I appreciate your son
being in the service, when he returns from Iraq make sure he knows his
service is appreciated and that he has our countries respect.

About a month ago, the same station above got word that the "not in our
name" protesters we going to stage a protest at the gates of the local Army
base and wave their petty signs and banners at our troops as they were being
deployed.   WE decided that it wasn't going to happen that way.  Picture if
you will, 7-8 thousand supporters on a cold windy and rainy day here in the
Pacific Northwest, with their own signs and flags cheering and thanking the
soldiers as they passed.  Soldiers were crying, waving, saluting, whooping &
hollering, and so were we... :-)  It was a great day !

BTW...  a few of the protesters did show up but they were quickly swallowed
up by the crowd and "hidden from sight" :-)  Word has it that the rest of
the protesters saw that we had all the highway overpasses covered, as well
as the entrances to the base so they turned around as well.

Best Regards,

The "other" David...
Ed Bennett - 13 Dec 2003 11:09 GMT
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> Look we have no issues at all.  We live in a very peaceful place of
> harmony and love, and in tune with the environment and nature.
Good for you.  You want to share your secret?

> Our police are the trash of the earth and take that job as job of last
> resort.  Our police lie and are despicable rude ignorant poorly
> educated failed fools that could not get a job in the real world -
> just like those that join the military forces.
I see.  Sounds like great peace and harmony.

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???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 12:03 GMT
Ed you need to realise only desperados join the police and military as they
are incapable of getting real proper productive jobs in the commercial
world.  They are just unproductive leeches on the community.

We don't need a police force where we live and don't have one.

> I see.  Sounds like great peace and harmony.
Ed Bennett - 13 Dec 2003 12:27 GMT
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> We don't need a police force where we live and don't have one.

I was trying to point out that you aren't really living in peace and harmony
if you are persistenly making rude comments about your police force, and
they (so you say) to everyone else.

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???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 14:39 GMT
Ed the police are called 'pigs' for all the right reasons - the trash of
society get jobs there as they cannot get real jobs.

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> Ed the police are called 'pigs' for all the right reasons - the trash
> of society get jobs there as they cannot get real jobs.

Well, if your society have trash and you can call members of your society
trash, it doesn't sound like peace and harmony.

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???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 22:19 GMT
Ed every society has their trash and some countries more than others.
Just look how you treat and speak about your trailer people.
I have yet to hear a good word spoken about them.
If you were a caring loving society you would improve their lot by giving
them proper homes at a very low cost.

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Ed Bennett - 13 Dec 2003 22:29 GMT
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> Ed every society has their trash and some countries more than others.
But until you have no trash altogether, then you don't have a peaceful and
harmonic society.

> I have yet to hear a good word spoken about them.
Pardon?  It seems that I have caught your selective hearing.

> If you were a caring loving society you would improve their lot by
> giving them proper homes at a very low cost.
a) I can't afford homes for the entire police force
b) We were talking about your police force, not mine
c) I don't think it's possible for me to be a caring loving society.

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???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 22:37 GMT
Ed you would not give the police force anything let alone homes.

I was talking about your trailer people and how you denigrate them all the
time.  You Americans should give low cost or free housing to those people if
they cannot afford to buy a proper home.  You could supply everybody that
needs a home in the US with all the money you are spending on war tools and
especially Iraq.  About time countries got their priorities correct.
Houses for the under privileged should be a top priority and a mandate of
government.  These houses should be totally environment friendly as possible
with 5kW of solar panels, solar hot water systems, environmental
toilets/lavatories so they do not have to pay for utilities.

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> You Americans

You have forgotten one small detail... and I'm not going to point it out.
Nor am I going to continue this line of argument, as you are (deliberately
or otherwise) not understanding my point, and so there is no point in
continuing.

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DavidJ01 - 12 Dec 2003 21:33 GMT
> Sure I want them free, as they are being denied human rights and justice.

Define the rights of a terrorist and what injustice they're experiencing.

> Israel is occupying land they took by force and stole from those people and
> they *must* return the land.

Stole from who?  Lets investigate the facts of the borders, when and by whom
they were defined.  Then lets further understand where the Palestinians came
from and when their borders were established.  Only then can an intelligent
discussion evolve.

> There is no honor for any person that fights in a war - they must have
been
> dumb or indoctrinated to go to war.

I hope no war machine ever rolls through your town.  Cowards and pacifists
don't have the courage needed to stand up and fight for their rights.

> Ask Bastet/Sarah/Agnes/Haggard Aggie/Black Allis/Amethyst/Sarah/Cassandra
> etc etc. why she should be incarcerated.  It is despicable she has not been.

I asked you.  You're the one with contradictory positions.
???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 00:02 GMT
Look, they are not terrorists at all.
They have not been tried in a civil court.
You yankees are denying those gentleman their human rights.
Why do you think Democrat and Republican Senators are demanding their
release.
You have no right to hold foreigners when you invaded their country illegal
just as you did in Iraq.
The American fools in Iraq cannot even do anything practical or meaningful.
They come up with a new plan every week and you fools are going nowhere and
achieving nothing except it is costing you buckets of money.  The Iraq
people will never forgive you and you will pay the price more each day till
you get your trash soldiers out of Iraq.
george bonsai bush was such a chicken a.s weasel he had to fly in
unannounced to Iraq and only stayed two hours.  How much more gutless can
you get, and bonsai bush is supposed to be head of the armed forces weak
weak weak useless weasel.

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Mike Koewler - 13 Dec 2003 01:23 GMT
David,

How did people feel about the most powerful person on Earth visiting
troops in the battle field? Here's a letter I received from one of them:

We knew there was a dinner planned with Ambassador Bremer and LTG
Sanchez. There were 600 seats available and all the units in the
division were tasked with filling a few tables. Naturally, the 501st MI
battalion got our table.
Soldiers were grumbling about having to sit through another dog-and-pony
show, so we had to pick soldiers to attend. I chose not to go.
But, about 1500 the G2, LTC Devan, came up to me and with a smile, asked
me to come to dinner with him, to meet him in his office at 1600 and
bring a camera. I didn't really care about getting a picture with
Sanchez or Bremer, but when the division's senior intelligence officer
asks you to go, you go.
We were seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for Thanksgiving when
aaaaallllll kinds of secret service guys showed up. That was my first
clue, because Bremer's been here before and his personal security
detachment is not that big. Then BG Dempsey got up to speak, and he
welcomed ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. Bremer thanked us all and
pulled out a piece of paper as if to give a speech. He mentioned that
the President had given him this thanksgiving speech to give to the
troops. He then paused and said that the senior man present should be
the one to give it. He then looked at Sanchez, who just smiled.
Bremer then said that we should probably get someone more senior to read
the speech. Then, from behind the camouflage netting, the President of
the United States came around. The mess hall actually erupted with
hollering.
Troops bounded to their feet with shocked smiles and just began cheering
 with all their hearts. The building actually shook. It was just unreal.
I was absolutely stunned. Not only for the obvious, but also because I
was only two tables away from the podium. There he stood, less than
thirty feet away from me! The cheering went on and on and on.
Soldiers were hollering, cheering, and a lot of them were crying. There
was not a dry eye at my table. When he stepped up to the cheering, I
could clearly see tears running down his cheeks. It was the most surreal
moment I've had in years. Not since my wedding and Aaron being born.
Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world,
spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous
airport in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days
before. Just to spend two hours with his troops. Only to get on a plane
and spend another 17 hours flying back. It was a great moment, and I
will never forget it. He delivered his speech, which we all loved, when
he looked right at me and held his eyes on me. Then he stepped down and
was just mobbed by the soldiers. He slowly worked his way all the way
around the chow hall and shook every last hand extended. Every soldier
who wanted a photo with the President got one. I made my way through the
line, got dinner, then wolfed it down as he was still working the room.
You could tell he was really enjoying himself. It wasn't just a photo
opportunity. This man was actually enjoying himself! He worked his way
over the course of about 90 minutes towards my side of the room.
Meanwhile, I took the opportunity to shake a few hands. I got a picture
with Ambassador Bremer, Talabani (acting Iraqi president) and Achmed
Chalabi (another member of the ruling council) and Condaleeza Rice, who
was there with him.
I felt like I was drunk. He was getting closer to my table so I went
back over to my seat. As he passed and posed for photos, he looked me in
the eyes and said "How you doin', captain." I smiled and said "God bless
you, sir." To which he responded "I'm proud of what you do, captain."
Then moved on.

End sent message

David, tell me one Australian who would have had the gonads to do this
and in doing so would have made so many people happy and proud. You
cannot do it. Why? Because you profess to be among Australia's brightest
and most self-reliant people, yet you will not answer a simple question
about what you would do if your wife was attacked.

You know my e-mail address and my phone number. You can respond via any
method that suits your fancy.

Mike
°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Look, they are not terrorists at all.
> They have not been tried in a civil court.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> you get, and bonsai bush is supposed to be head of the armed forces weak
> weak weak useless weasel.
???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 05:59 GMT
Mike nobody would ever attack me or my wife, but if they did, they probably
would get stopped before they reached us.  If they did, sure, I would stop
them.

You people need to learn to love peace and forget about war and all those
mongrels that want to partake in it.

Human rights, civility, peace among all people, and living in tune with
nature should be the main thrust of human beings.

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Mike Koewler - 13 Dec 2003 07:03 GMT
David,

>If they did, sure, I would stop
> them.

So if you or your loved one is attacked, it is not wrong to respond?

> You people need to learn to love peace and forget about war and all those
> mongrels that want to partake in it.

Do you really think Americans love war? Do you think, for a nanosecond
that fathers and mothers want to be separated from their families. Do
you look forward to going someplace so you can defend your wife? The
answer is, of course, Of Course not. My son doesn't want to kill people,
he would rather fix food for them. But if it comes down to it, yeah, he
will protect us, just as you said you would protect your wife. The only
difference between the soldiers, sailors and marines from the US and
other countries and you - you are willing to protect just the person who
means a bunch to you, the other men and women are willing to defend
those they represent.

Yes, it is a foreign concept to you, people caring about those they do
not know. That's the difference in our cultures. You are willing to pay
taxes to help those in need, we are willing to lay our life on the line

A parable for you: a pig and a chicken went to breakfast together and
both said they would show their willingness to put themselves in harm's
way. The pig ordered ham, the chicken ordered eggs.

> Human rights, civility, peace among all people, and living in tune with
> nature should be the main thrust of human beings.

When you can convince all humans on the planet of this, then Utopia will
be nigh. Until that day dawns, there will always be strife. Caring
people will try to make things better; isolationists will always proffer
that they aren't being affected, why should any action be taken, or in
some cases, that taking action to improve humanity is wrong.

Regards,

Mike
???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 12:08 GMT
Sure Americans love war they cannot keep their noses out of it.
America starts a war whenever and wherever it can.
America needs war as an economic and employment instrument.
Don't just think about full scale wars, but all the war assistance you gave
to South America, Cuba conflict, Saddam Hussein in the earlier days etc.
etc.
You could not get into Iraq quickly enough and should never have gone.
"Weapons of mass destruction" intelligence made up by the CIA from the side
of a corn flakes packet so you could have an excuse to go to war in Iraq.
Now Iraq will be a worse case scenario in many ways than Vietnam ever was.
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Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP] - 13 Dec 2003 12:31 GMT
Hi Mike Koewler (wordwiz@fuse.net)
in the Microsoft? newsgroups
you posted:

|| David,
||
|| How did people feel about the most powerful person on Earth visiting
|| troops in the battle field? Here's a letter I received from one of
|| them:

<snipped excellent letter>

Mike, I thought that was an excellent letter. And I am proud of my troops
and support them fully. Since I too was a troop (I was in desert storm for a
very short period of time as well!), I can feel their excitement through
this letter. After we returned from the storm, Governor Tommy Thompson came
and spoke with us, and many felt the same way. I am glad your son is out
their to protect us.

However, I will add my 2?T (note the TM symbol since that is your newspaper
trademark). While I am glad the troops were happy with GB's visit, I
personally feel that George's main reason for visiting was a PR stunt for
his upcoming election (as was his flight onto the aircraft carrier). I don't
say this to bash the republican party because I would feel the same way had
any president done so, especially so close to election time. It makes me
cringe just thinking about the amount of money we are spending on this. I
wish we could help everyone here in the US first! 87 billion dollars can go
a long way here in the US to help those less fortunate.

Needless to say, I will surely fight for my freedom!

Have a nice weekend Mike!

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???MS?Publisher??? - 13 Dec 2003 14:43 GMT
bonsai bush never even really got elected
Of course it is an election stunt
You Americans will be spending a longer time in Iraq than Vietnam.
You made your bed in Iraq now you have to lie in it and pay dearly for it.
The bonsai bush administration is the worlds most dangerous weapon
presently - a weapon of mass destruction.

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Mike Koewler - 14 Dec 2003 00:50 GMT
Brian,

It could be a re-election stunt, but given that the election was just
short of a year away when he did it, that's an early start. It was also
a gutsy move (would have looked really bad had the plane been shot
down), as that bird that landed didn't coast in and people with weapons
had hit a plane just days before.

I can't put a finger on it, but my feelings are that Bush really does
care about the people serving in the military, as well as the protectors
(firemen and police officers) in this country.

Hope all is fine with you family and most of your Christmas shopping is
done. I've got to finish this issue and then I am done for the year.
Seems stupid to worry about publishing a paper on Christmas or New
Year's Eve.

Mike

> Hi Mike Koewler (wordwiz@fuse.net)
> in the Microsoft® newsgroups
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Have a nice weekend Mike!
???MS?Publisher??? - 14 Dec 2003 06:11 GMT
Gutsy move HA HA HA the weak spineless gutless scum bag bonsai bush was a
pathetic little pansy wimp.

bonsai bush is only interested in himself and his pay packet and does not
care at all how many Americans are killed in war as the little spineless
wimp is to chicken to get out and get his hands dirty.

bonsai bush is just suckering you Americans for all he can get and many of
you people are swallowing the bull manure put out by the spin doctors.

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Mike Koewler - 14 Dec 2003 06:52 GMT
And then there are those idiotic NG posters who speak from both sides of
their mouth, who don't have a clue about protecting family and friends
and spout nonsense about world affairs. It took you, David, three posts
to get up the courage to say that if your wife was attacked at a
restaurant, that you would come to her aid, if no one else did. Are all
Australians as spineless as you, or are you the abnormality? No need to
answer - we know.

Because I have a young daughter, I end up watching SpongeBob
SquarePants. I have a hard time deciding which character represents you
best - the jelly fish who have no spine and attack people then flit off
or Patrick, the star fish who doesn't have a brain but tries his best to
pretend he is smart.

You refuse to answer my e-mail messages to you, thus showing you have no
conviction of positions. I wonder why? Maybe because you prefer to hide
behind an anonymous user name and spout lies? Or, you like playing the
role of troll in this NG. C'mon, David. Put your mouth where your
fingers are. I would say it's the Australian way, but I know too many
people from your continent to paint you with the same brush. I hate to
point out the obvious, but you cannot debate a teenager or an old man.
All you can do is post stupid messages that you cannot defend.

Merry Christmas,

Mike
°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Gutsy move HA HA HA the weak spineless gutless scum bag bonsai bush was a
> pathetic little pansy wimp.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> bonsai bush is just suckering you Americans for all he can get and many of
> you people are swallowing the bull manure put out by the spin doctors.
???MS?Publisher??? - 14 Dec 2003 08:28 GMT
Have not had an e-mail message from you for ages.
We are not a spineless gutless nation at all and are a nation known to stand
up for their rights.

Why do you think there are both Democrat and Republican Senators that want
the Guantanamo Bay people that are held illegally in inhumane conditions
released.  Those gutless spineless trash bullying yankee soldiers are
abusing and torturing those gentlemen being held there illegally.

People need to learn to live in peace with no wars.

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Mike Koewler - 14 Dec 2003 15:37 GMT
David,

I sent it to the same address that I used when you requested I check on
the availability of a program, the same one Dale used to contact you.
The messages have not bounced back.

But that's okay. This has been a great day and it's just beginning.
Saddam has been caught and the people in Iraq are partying in the
street. Oh, and about polluting, I'm sure you're aware that Australia is
second in the world behind the good old US of A in per capita CO2
emissions:
http://www.panda.org/about_wwf/what_we_do/climate_change/problems/co2_polluters.cfm

Regards,

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Have not had an e-mail message from you for ages.
> We are not a spineless gutless nation at all and are a nation known to stand
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> People need to learn to live in peace with no wars.
Mike Koewler - 15 Dec 2003 05:55 GMT
David,

I responded to the e-mail messages you sent me. Are you paranoid so much
to change your e-mail address weekly? My address is wordwiz@fuse.net.
Send me a message and I'll re-send the messages. Of course, if you are
afraid of debating a US citizen... I understand - and can see why.

Merry Christmas,

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Have not had an e-mail message from you for ages.
> We are not a spineless gutless nation at all and are a nation known to stand
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> People need to learn to live in peace with no wars.
DavidJ01 - 13 Dec 2003 01:32 GMT
Again, you've failed to respond to specific questions and refuse to discuss
facts.  Meaningless babble flows out of you like sewer from a toilet.  By
acknowledging a local police force, as well as having lawyers, you have
again contradicted your previous statements.

And while you're nothing more than a cowardly piss ant moron, a dumb sheep
that follows others, and a pathetic kool-aid drinker,  I do enjoy watching
you make a fool out of yourself.  You do it with such ease I wonder if it
comes naturally or if you've been working hard at it all your life.

> Look, they are not terrorists at all.
> They have not been tried in a civil court.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> --
DavidJ01 - 11 Dec 2003 01:30 GMT
You think that's bad, I thought I signed up as an "Electronic Technician"
Much later I figured out that 16 Romeo wasn't an Electronic Technician,
unless stringing P-Wire in the field to hook up our field phones is
considered "technical" <bg>.  'Course that was nearly 25 years ago, being
young (17) & dumb, and trying desperately to avoid the "strict" life at
home, I probably would of signed anything :-)  the military's a lot
different now.

David...

> Gee, even tho I was trained as a microwave radio operator for the Pershing
> missile system, all I got to do was play clerk typist. And that was after I
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Chris Schatte - 16 Dec 2003 02:36 GMT
Thank You, David!
Wish we all live in nirvana like you apparently do. Wish, hope and pray that we all have the money to pursue nirvana like you apparently do. There is only one qaveate, 99% of the population that supports your rights to freely voice your opinions relies on free people that work for a living to supply you with this freedom. Don't get me wrong here, we too share your opinions on barter, grow food naturally, etc....
But, there comes a point where no understanding of other countries and cultures clouds you common freaking sense! Many Americans have children, friends, spouses in harms way and no matter the circumstances we will defend them, period!
Hopefully just as you would your own children, friends and spouses from your hometown.
Mike Koewler - 16 Dec 2003 02:54 GMT
Chris,

>> Many Americans have children, friends, spouses in harms way and no
matter the circumstances we will defend them, period!
Hopefully just as you would your own children, friends and spouses from
your hometown.

Do they play sand volleyball at the South Pole?

Eagles soar, penguins waddle.

Merry Christmas,

Mike
Chris Schatte - 16 Dec 2003 03:41 GMT
Mike,
They are playing sand volleyball, but not at the specified location
Merry Christmas to you and your's in return and may every one stay safe wherever they are
Eagles do soar

penguins do waddle
Chris
Mike Koewler - 16 Dec 2003 04:40 GMT
Chris,

Merry Christmas and best wishes for safety for your family also.

Mike

> Mike,
> They are playing sand volleyball, but not at the specified location.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> penguins do waddle!
> Chris
???MS?Publisher??? - 16 Dec 2003 06:55 GMT
However, if you want to soar with eagles, don't talk to turkeys.

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Chris Schatte - 17 Dec 2003 01:56 GMT
Talking to turkeys? Please provide explanation on your turkey talk.
As stated previously, tolerance of cultures and people brings understanding.
Thought that your lifestyle of barter, etc.. should provide for this, maybe it does in your community but does not translate to others.
We do some of the same here, barter, get along with all {tolerance}, etc...
???MS?Publisher??? - 17 Dec 2003 03:38 GMT
Chris nonsense.  You need to free all those gentlemen you are holding
illegally in inhumane conditions and without human rights in Guantanamo Bay.
bonsai bush is a chicken yellow turkey.

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Mike Koewler - 17 Dec 2003 04:08 GMT
David,

You need to quit posting your inaccurate, biased, inaccurate,
misinformed, inaccurate, untrue, inaccurate, unproved, inaccurate info
to NGs where people know better. I will take this back and recant
everything I've said if you can PROVE you have been to Gitmo and seen
such alleged (and inaccurate) treatments happen. By the way, did I
mention you are inaccurate in your posts?

David, the plain simple truth - if you want to run with the big dogs,
you are going to have to learn how to pee in tall weeds. That means you
are going to have to post facts.

You are welcome to respond to me via e-mail, though knowing you, you
don't want to. I would have e-mailed you this response, to the last
valid address you had, but you have already said you didn't get the
other ones. Must be one of those cyberspace things, where valid
addresses go bad in the space of a couple of days.

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Chris nonsense.  You need to free all those gentlemen you are holding
> illegally in inhumane conditions and without human rights in Guantanamo Bay.
> bonsai bush is a chicken yellow turkey.
???MS?Publisher??? - 17 Dec 2003 04:13 GMT
Even your US Democrats and Republican senators say they should be freed.

The US will continue to pay the price for holding them illegally.

--
Mike Koewler - 17 Dec 2003 05:14 GMT
David,

I'LL SCREAM, SO MAYBE YOU WILL HEAR. WHY NOT E-MAIL ME? Are you afraid?
Do you not have a whit of proof to back up your claims? Do you want to
portray yourself as an emu who sticks his head in the sand when
confronted? My e-mail address, just in case you don't know how to use
the 'reply to sender' feature is wordwiz@fuse.net

C'mon David. You want people to think what you say carries validity;
prove it. Prove it to me, a skeptic. Or keep living in your dream world
where no matter what you post, people will believe it. It's your call.
But don't be shy or hide behind aprons. E-mail me. Or are you afraid to?

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Even your US Democrats and Republican senators say they should be freed.
>
> The US will continue to pay the price for holding them illegally.
Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP] - 17 Dec 2003 13:37 GMT
Hi Mike Koewler (wordwiz@fuse.net),
in the Microsoft? newsgroups
you posted:

|| David,
||
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
|| your call. But don't be shy or hide behind aprons. E-mail me. Or are
|| you afraid to?

Mike, don't let him get you worked up. (believe me, I know from the past)

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Budget Print Center - 17 Dec 2003 14:05 GMT
My sentiments exactly, Brian.

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> > Mike, don't let him get you worked up. (believe me, I know from the
past)
???MS?Publisher??? - 17 Dec 2003 20:49 GMT
I never get worked up.

Mike has a problem with his e-mail.

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Mike Koewler - 17 Dec 2003 21:21 GMT
David,

Does your address start with an "L" and include "big" on the other side
of the @ sign? I know my e-mail address works, I get about 50 messages a
day, most which are spam.

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> I never get worked up.
>
> Mike has a problem with his e-mail.
Chris Schatte - 18 Dec 2003 01:11 GMT
David,
Just as I figured,
You "ducked" the question and did not explain youself or your ideas on the "subject".
The other posts are trying to get you to do this, but your mind must be as closed as your local nirvana community {or maybe it's just you, and you are the "Dictator"}.
It's a shame, because you do such good with your knowledge in the NG. You have helped me immensely using Publisher to further my business goals.
As we learned in the 60's and 70's if you work within the system it's easier to change minds and ideas than to punch people first then wonder why they do not understand you or your ideas.
I think that you are better than what you let on to be, If you can grow "turkeys" for food surely you can feed them properly to get them to be what you want them to be.
As stated previously, understanding of cultures and people leads to a better world.
???MS?Publisher??? - 18 Dec 2003 06:09 GMT
Chris the trouble is at the end of the day, some of you all get wound up to
easily!!!

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Mike Koewler - 18 Dec 2003 07:03 GMT
David,

Some of us do get wound up. But some others post things then try to hide
and duck, preferring not to back up their views, if you know what I mean.

Mike

°°°MS°Publisher°°° wrote:
> Chris the trouble is at the end of the day, some of you all get wound up to
> easily!!!
???MS?Publisher??? - 18 Dec 2003 07:14 GMT
Hmmmm know what you mean - not really, better to spell it out.

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Budget Print Center - 18 Dec 2003 11:48 GMT
{or maybe it's just you, and you are the "Dictator"}.

good point, I never thought of that; but in this case isn't
dictator spelled with a "k"?

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"Display tolerance & kindness to those with less
knowledge than you because there is ALWAYS
someone with more"

> David,
> Just as I figured,
> You "ducked" the question and did not explain youself or your ideas on the "subject".
> The other posts are trying to get you to do this, but your mind must be as closed as your local nirvana community {or maybe it's just you, and you are
the "Dictator"}.
> It's a shame, because you do such good with your knowledge in the NG. You have helped me immensely using Publisher to further my business goals.
> As we learned in the 60's and 70's if you work within the system it's easier to change minds and ideas than to punch people first then wonder why
they do not understand you or your ideas.
> I think that you are better than what you let on to be, If you can grow "turkeys" for food surely you can feed them properly to get them to be what
you want them to be.
> As stated previously, understanding of cultures and people leads to a better world.
pop - 30 Jan 2004 17:01 GMT
 
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