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MS Office Forum / Publisher / General MS Publisher Questions / May 2004Printing booklet
I am producing a 50 to 60 page booklet using Pubisher 2003. The page format will be using 8.5 x 11 paper folded in half. I need to print both sides of the paper. How do I print the booklet so that I print half the project on one side of the paper and the other half on the back. Will publisher keep track of the pages so that for example; that page 2 and page 50 print on the same side/sheet of paper so when all pages are printed, folded and bound the book reads correctly. Thanks John Houston, Tx more info...I am using a single side printer so I have to run the pages through twice to print both sides of the paper. JS >-----Original Message----- >I am producing a 50 to 60 page booklet using Pubisher [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Houston, Tx >. A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from John Steiger <jsteiger@houston.rr.com>!"... > I am producing a 50 to 60 page booklet using Pubisher > 2003. The page format will be using 8.5 x 11 paper > folded in half. I need to print both sides of the > paper. How do I print the booklet so that I print half > the project on one side of the paper and the other half > on the back. You will either need to manually turn the paper over as it comes out of the printer, or you will need to activate some kind of duplexing feature in your printer driver. If you have no manual duplex features in your printer driver, then you will need to use an intermediary driver such as FinePrint from www.fineprint.com. Failing that, you could create a PDF file and use the manual duplex features in Adobe Reader. A free PDF creator is available at www.pdf995.com  SignatureEd Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/ Before reading this message, view the disclaimer: http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm I have a similar problem. I do not want it printed on both sides of the 8 1 1/2 X 11 paper - only on one side. But, I'd like it to print out in such a way that the printer can go from one sided to two sided. In other words, I will print two pages. On one page I will have the front and back covers. On the other page I will have the 1st and 2nd pages. Now, take that to 100 pages.... 1st page = front & back covers. 2nd = 1st and 100th, 3rd = 3rd and 99th, 4th = 4th and 98 pages. Is this making sense? The publisher has asked me to convert my pages to pdf and they'll take it from there. Does this make sense? A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from Ned <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>!"... > I have a similar problem. I do not want it printed > on both sides of the 8 1 1/2 X 11 paper - only on one > side. But, I'd like it to print out in such a way that the > printer can go from one sided to two sided. You can't print a two-sided PDF :-) Just set up your publication as a booklet, and print to PDF. It will print single-sided, and the printer will be able to duplex it for you. As simple as it could be :-) SignatureEd Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/ Before reading this message, view the disclaimer: http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm Ned, I would ask the printer what he wants - multi-page pdf, single page pdf, printer spread pdf. It's possible he could want single pages that he will impose, or the first and last pages as one pdf, second and penultimate pages, etc. I'm not a printer but I know as a designer nothing is more important than knowing what your printer wants BEFORE you start on a project. I can and usually does save you a bunch of time, grief and money. Mike > I have a similar problem. I do not want it printed > on both sides of the 8 1 1/2 X 11 paper - only on one [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > convert my pages to pdf and they'll take it from there. > Does this make sense? Are you saying you want the cover sheet to be only printed on the front and it's back side blank and also the back cover blank on both sides but then all the pages within the booklet carry print and page numbers? If so, make the actual page one (the cover) with print, page 2 (back side of front cover a blank page and the back cover blank on both sides. Now create the pages within the booklet, change the start page from 3 to 1. SignatureDon -------- Vancouver, USA - One of the great cities in one of the 45+ countries in the Americas! > I have a similar problem. I do not want it printed > on both sides of the 8 1 1/2 X 11 paper - only on one [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > convert my pages to pdf and they'll take it from there. > Does this make sense? ClickBook does this - and dozens of other tasks - it may be worth getting the trial copy. ============================== >I have a similar problem. I do not want it printed >on both sides of the 8 1 1/2 X 11 paper - only on one [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >convert my pages to pdf and they'll take it from there. >Does this make sense? I have a question for you. I've seen many people post the same question and I always wonder - how many of these booklets are you printing? If you are only doing one and then taking it to the printers, why go thru all of that? I've always been curious about this. SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > I am producing a 50 to 60 page booklet using Pubisher > 2003. The page format will be using 8.5 x 11 paper [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > John > Houston, Tx It is a project my wife is working on for a family reunion. We are going to print about 75 copies. I may end up taking the print job to the local kinkos to printed. I just wanted to make that it is possible to create the project and be able to tell the printer to print the pages in the proper sequence. I know that I will have to the run the paper throgh twice if I print it myself(I am not looking forward to printing it myself, but you know, anything for the spouse). I hoping to be able to have someone else print the project depending on the cost John When you print a booklet take care in how the sheets of paper are stacked to ensure they result in sequential order. If you plan to staple the booklets, you will need a "long arm" stapler. Note to JoAnne: I publish less than 6 booklets (many copies) but they get updated often. SignatureDon -------- Vancouver, USA - One of the great cities in one of the 45+ countries in the Americas! > It is a project my wife is working on for a family reunion. We are going to print about 75 copies. I may end up taking the print job to the local kinkos to printed. I just wanted to make that it is possible to create the project and be able to tell the printer to print the pages in the proper sequence. I know that I will have to the run the paper throgh twice if I print it myself(I am not looking forward to printing it myself, but you know, anything for the spouse). I hoping to be able to have someone else print the project depending on the cost. > John I can see if you only a few copies (definitely under 10 copies) but anything more than that, get them printed. It's so much easier. As for making sure your printer can get them in the right order, I'm assuming your pages are numbered. If the printer can't figure that much out, time to find a new printer. (I know, I'm harsh, but that's their job.) SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > When you print a booklet take care in how the sheets of paper are stacked to > ensure they result in sequential order. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > print the project depending on the cost. > > John A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from JL Paules <JL_Amerson@hotmail.com>!"... > I can see if you only a few copies (definitely under 10 copies) but > anything more than that, get them printed. It's so much easier. I wouldn't be so sure. If you turned off copy collation, then you could just provide X sheets of paper, select File > Print > X copies, and go off and do something while printed page 1, then turn stack over, and add another X sheets underneath the stack, tell printer to continue, repeat until done. The only tedious bit is then collating all the copies, but it's not difficult. The only technically difficult bit is finding a long-armed stapler. SignatureEd Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/ Before reading this message, view the disclaimer: http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm I guess I see things a tad bit differently because I do most of my printing for the organization. If I'm doing things for my local chapter, I hand them the bill. If it's for the region, they get the bill. I do so little for myself that the little bit of printing I do doesn't make a difference. ALTHOUGH I did just print off some business cards. I'm donating a crystal bracelet I made to be auctioned off. I'm hoping that I can pick up a few commissioned works from them. Keep your fingers crossed for me. (I can't cross my own - I'd never be able to make the bracelets if I do.) SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from JL > Paules <JL_Amerson@hotmail.com>!"... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > difficult. > The only technically difficult bit is finding a long-armed stapler. A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from John Steiger <jsteiger@houston.rr.com>!"... > It is a project my wife is working on for a family reunion. We are > going to print about 75 copies. I may end up taking the print job to > the local kinkos to printed. I just wanted to make that it is > possible to create the project and be able to tell the printer to > print the pages in the proper sequence. Yes, and I listed the options for you If you give the document to Kinkos, they will use their automatic machinery to do it for you. Check out the links at http://office.microsoft.com/ for links to a place where you can find internet-based and local printers who accept Microsoft Publisher files. SignatureEd Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/ Before reading this message, view the disclaimer: http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm Thanks for all the help. I called Kinko's and they want 400 buck to print the booklet. I will have to talk to wife about re-thinking how we are preparing the project. Again, Thanks for the help. John MY HEAVENS!!! What are you getting done that they want $400 for 75 booklets? I get a newsletter printed for a little over half of that. I get 255 copies, black and white, double-sided on 11x17, saddle-stitched, folded and tabbed. SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > Thanks for all the help. I called Kinko's and they want 400 buck to print the booklet. I will have to talk to wife about re-thinking how we are preparing the project. Again, Thanks for the help. John A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from JL Paules <JL_Amerson@hotmail.com>!"... > MY HEAVENS!!! What are you getting done that they want $400 for 75 > booklets? I get a newsletter printed for a little over half of that. > I get 255 copies, black and white, double-sided on 11x17, > saddle-stitched, folded and tabbed. He probably wants colour SignatureEd Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/ Before reading this message, view the disclaimer: http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm no...my wife wants color! No color, that was for b&w. They said that it was 2000 copies and that was the price I was qouted. I just need to shop around a little and I bet I can find a better price. Kinko's was the first place I tried. John JoAnn, The way I read it was, the booklet is 50 or 60 pages and he (his wife) needs 2000 booklets. That's 15 sheets of paper per booklet, times 2000 booklets for $400. It comes out to be 1.3333333? per page. I charge my lodge 5? per page. (and I lose money on every sheet, but make it up in the volume). <G> SignatureDon -------- DEFCON I Publishing. "When you hear light, it's us." > MY HEAVENS!!! What are you getting done that they want $400 for 75 booklets? > I get a newsletter printed for a little over half of that. I get 255 copies, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 Don, > The way I read it was, the booklet is 50 or 60 pages and he (his wife) needs > 2000 booklets. Could be, but he typed: "We are going to print about 75 copies." > That's 15 sheets of paper per booklet, times 2000 booklets for $400. Or, if you believe him, 15 sheets of paper per booklet, times 75 booklets for $400. That's about 17.5¢ per click, assuming a click for each side. Not a bad price for color, but given the volume, it doesn't sound like a great deal. Mike > It comes out to be 1.3333333¢ per page. I charge my lodge 5¢ per page. > (and I lose money on every sheet, but make it up in the volume). <G It is 75 copies. After getting home and thinking about it, it only about 15 to 20 sheets of paper per booklet. That would still total about 1500 sheets...still alot of printing. I printed a 8 page sample when I got home using the manual duplex mode and it worked...I would still hate to print 1200 sheets of paper. John ...plus stitching, folding, and a pretty trim on the face edge so the sheets dont stick out. seems like alot but it isnt far out of line with what I would charge. there are alot of hidden steps there and even if it was all automated, the equipment to do all that is very expensive Signature"Display tolerance & kindness to those with less knowledge than you because there is ALWAYS someone with more" > It is 75 copies. After getting home and thinking about it, it only about 15 to 20 sheets of paper per booklet. That would still total about 1500 sheets...still alot of printing. I printed a 8 page sample when I got home using the manual duplex mode and it worked...I would still hate to print 1200 sheets of paper. John Hi John Steiger (jsteiger@houston.rr.com), in the newsgroups you posted: || It is 75 copies. After getting home and thinking about it, it only || about 15 to 20 sheets of paper per booklet. That would still total || about 1500 sheets...still alot of printing. I printed a 8 page || sample when I got home using the manual duplex mode and it || worked...I would still hate to print 1200 sheets of paper. John John, check with your local "The UPS Store" if you have one, and see if they offer a competitive printing price as well. SignatureBrian Kvalheim Microsoft Publisher MVP http://www.mvps.org/publisher ~pay it foward~ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from Mike Koewler <wordwiz@fuse.net>!"... > Or, if you believe him, 15 sheets of paper per booklet, times 75 > booklets for $400. That's about 17.5? per click, assuming a click for > each side. Not a bad price for color, but given the volume, it doesn't > sound like a great deal. 75 copies of a 15 - 20 sheet booklet in colour for $400 is a damn good deal compared to the printing prices over here. Like everything else, colour printing in the UK is twice/three times as much as it is in the US (Maybe it's the addition of the U in colour) SignatureEd Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/ Before reading this message, view the disclaimer: http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm <chuckle!> SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] (snip) > Like everything else, colour printing in the UK is twice/three times as much > as it is in the US (Maybe it's the addition of the U in colour) Has anyone tried sewing the pages together? My friend did that and it worked out well. Betty > It is a project my wife is working on for a family reunion. We are going to print about 75 copies. I may end up taking the print job to the local kinkos to printed. I just wanted to make that it is possible to create the project and be able to tell the printer to print the pages in the proper sequence. I know that I will have to the run the paper throgh twice if I print it myself(I am not looking forward to printing it myself, but you know, anything for the spouse). I hoping to be able to have someone else print the project depending on the cost. > John |
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