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Cant get rid of large bottom margin when printing

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Fangfur - 27 May 2005 21:52 GMT
I cannot stop large unprintable borders around the edge of an A4 page. Have
adjusted settings in wordpad and in margins. New settings say the only border
should be 0.01cm at the bottom. This has made no difference. Border is much
larger at the bottom than the other sides. Any help gratefully received.
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP] - 27 May 2005 22:03 GMT
That could be a limitation of your printer. Check your owner's manual.

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>I cannot stop large unprintable borders around the edge of an A4 page. Have
> adjusted settings in wordpad and in margins. New settings say the only
> border
> should be 0.01cm at the bottom. This has made no difference. Border is
> much
> larger at the bottom than the other sides. Any help gratefully received.
Mary Sauer - 28 May 2005 09:30 GMT
What happens when you set the margins to zero? Does your printer have a full bleed
option? How large is large?
Might adjust the top and sides of your publication to match the bottom margin, at
least you'd have a uniform look.

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>I cannot stop large unprintable borders around the edge of an A4 page. Have
> adjusted settings in wordpad and in margins. New settings say the only border
> should be 0.01cm at the bottom. This has made no difference. Border is much
> larger at the bottom than the other sides. Any help gratefully received.
Ed Bennett - 28 May 2005 13:33 GMT
Mary Sauer <gsauer@mycolumbus.rr.com> was very recently heard to utter:
> What happens when you set the margins to zero?

Mary,
Some models of printer or printer driver will report margins of 0.1 or 0.01
cm to WordPad, but actually have much larger unprintable margins.
I have experienced this firsthand, which is why I use the
horizontal/vertical line method.

If I were you I would at least put a small health warning on when
administering advice on using the WordPad method.

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Mary Sauer - 28 May 2005 15:54 GMT
Ed, Even the Knowledge Base tells you to use WordPad
PUB98: Checking Unprintable Region of Publications
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;216273
Maybe it is a UK printer driver thing. Or maybe an American coded the information and
didn't know, something like the Mars fiasco.

The best solution is to read the manual...

Something like this:
WARNING! This maybe the wrong information. Use it at your own risk...

So, are you starting college in the fall?
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> Mary Sauer <gsauer@mycolumbus.rr.com> was very recently heard to utter:
>> What happens when you set the margins to zero?
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> If I were you I would at least put a small health warning on when administering
> advice on using the WordPad method.
Ed Bennett - 28 May 2005 16:12 GMT
Mary Sauer <gsauer@mycolumbus.rr.com> was very recently heard to utter:
> Ed, Even the Knowledge Base tells you to use WordPad

The knowledge base has been wrong before (and I have corrected it - although
that was a VBA issue at which I have a little more expertise).

> So, are you starting college in the fall?

I am starting university in the autumn :o)

UK | US
College | Last two years of school, non-compulsory, working towards
externally-assessed A-level exams used to judge university entrance.
University | College
Fall | Autumn

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Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\) - 28 May 2005 20:05 GMT
UK | US
$? | $$,$$$ per year

> Mary Sauer <gsauer@mycolumbus.rr.com> was very recently heard to utter:
> > Ed, Even the Knowledge Base tells you to use WordPad
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> University | College
> Fall | Autumn
Ed Bennett - 28 May 2005 20:54 GMT
Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®) <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> was very
recently heard to utter:
> UK | US
> $? | $$,$$$ per year

It used to be $0 per year with a grant of an amount I don't know.
Then it went to a loan.
Then a couple of years ago it went to a system of tuition fees (about
£1100/year - ~US$2100 per year), fixed for the length of the course.
When I start it will be £1175 (~US$2300) per year for each year of my
four-year course.  I get a loan of about £3000 ($5700) per year.  The year
afterward (starting September 2006) in England have to pay top-up fees of up
to £3000 (~US$5700) per year.

Not as much as has to be paid in the US, but seeing as it has always been a
free service and supports the future of our economy most students over here
are incensed.

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Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\) - 30 May 2005 17:25 GMT
Still cheap.

State University here in my state is about 8K a year for undergrad.

The university my son is attending is 42K a year..of course there's aid, grants, scholarship money..but it's still a killer. He may do a semester in London next year..can't wait to see what that's gonna cost.

> Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®) <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> was very
> recently heard to utter:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> free service and supports the future of our economy most students over here
> are incensed.
Ed Bennett - 30 May 2005 17:45 GMT
Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®) <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> was very
recently heard to utter:
> Still cheap.

Cheap is a relative term.

> State University here in my state is about 8K a year for undergrad.

All universities in the UK cost the same at the moment, although Wales are
not introducing the top-up fees for another couple of years, and the top-up
fees allow variable fees up to the maximum of £3000.

> The university my son is attending is 42K a year..of course there's
> aid, grants, scholarship money..but it's still a killer. He may do a
> semester in London next year..can't wait to see what that's gonna
> cost.

Non-EU students in the UK pay full tuition fees, and accomodation in London
is on the expensive side, so the price might be comparable to the $42k that
you're paying in the US.

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Mary Sauer - 30 May 2005 19:26 GMT
Send your son to Germany, my granddaughter is attending the university in Berlin, it
costs nothing. Well she has to pay for room and board and that sort of thing. She was
required to speak the language. She has now become a socialist and is trying to
become a citizen of Germany. She studied classical harp. She takes her Irish harp out
on the street with a cup and plays for handouts... Its déjà vu all over again...

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Still cheap.

State University here in my state is about 8K a year for undergrad.

The university my son is attending is 42K a year..of course there's aid, grants,
scholarship money..but it's still a killer. He may do a semester in London next
year..can't wait to see what that's gonna cost.

> Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®) <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> was very
> recently heard to utter:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> free service and supports the future of our economy most students over here
> are incensed.
Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\) - 30 May 2005 21:44 GMT
I've been trying to talk him into Italy or maybe Spain, that way we'd have an excuse to go too...I wouldn't mind being a student again...yout is wasted on da young ain't it?

> Send your son to Germany, my granddaughter is attending the university in Berlin, it
> costs nothing. Well she has to pay for room and board and that sort of thing. She was
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> > free service and supports the future of our economy most students over here
> > are incensed.
 
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