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Michelle - 19 Jul 2005 20:03 GMT

I work for a public library and we offer word processing to the public. The
computer is locked down with group policies as well as a 3rd party software.
I just upgraded our Office software from 97 to 2003. Now, after saving in
Word 2 or 3 times, the machine locks up while saving and the machine has to
be rebooted. Our public users must use a floppy to save to as we do not
allow saving to our hard disk. This means that they have now lost all of
their work. I have disabled/removed any security such as the 3rd party
software and Group Policies and it still does it. I have also looked for
possible solutions on the Microsoft website and newsgroups. The closest I
have found was this - http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=313937 and it
doesn't apply as there are no mapped drives online. The public user does not
have access to any network drives through permissions, but they are there.
Would this be the same thing? Any assistance would be appreciated as we have
some very unhappy users.

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Margaret Aldis - 19 Jul 2005 21:25 GMT

It's never really safe to save to floppy - best advice is not to do it at
all, or if you must use the setting to save temporary files on the local
hard disk
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;277010&FR=1)

That said, there have been 2 or 3 posts in this group reporting a complete
lock-up when saving to floppy as a possible new occurrence related to a
recent patch.

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>I work for a public library and we offer word processing to the public.
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Michelle - 19 Jul 2005 22:15 GMT

Hi Margaret,

I agree about the floppies. I would prefer not to, but most of the people
that use public workstations cannot afford USB drives or other media and the
staff can't spend time troubleshooting CD-R/RW problems. So for now, it
seems that floppies are our only solution.

Thanks for the bug information. I missed the earlier posts since they were
about other versions. I had just applied the Windows 2000 rollout to all of
my public workstations on July 1, so that seems to be it! Thanks, I've been
looking for an answer to this since then. Everything seems to be working
well now, but I will post an update if the problem reoccurs.

How do we report this bug to Microsoft and then how do we know when it is
fixed?

Michelle

> It's never really safe to save to floppy - best advice is not to do it at
> all, or if you must use the setting to save temporary files on the local
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> > some very unhappy users.

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Beth Melton - 20 Jul 2005 19:08 GMT

FWIW, these days you can pick up a 128 MB USB drive for about $20 US.

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> Hi Margaret,
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> I agree about the floppies. I would prefer not to, but most of the
> people
> that use public workstations cannot afford USB drives

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Bob Buckland ?:-) - 24 Jul 2005 14:26 GMT

Hi Margaret,

If you're using Windows 2000 then this may be
a bug in the SP4 'rollup' update that breaks
the use of working with a diskette drive.

If you phone your local MS Windows (rather than Office)
support number (http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1131)
you can obtain a 'hotfix' (no charge) that should solve the problem.

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Hi Margaret,

I agree about the floppies. I would prefer not to, but most of the people
that use public workstations cannot afford USB drives or other media and the
staff can't spend time troubleshooting CD-R/RW problems. So for now, it
seems that floppies are our only solution.

Thanks for the bug information. I missed the earlier posts since they were
about other versions. I had just applied the Windows 2000 rollout to all of
my public workstations on July 1, so that seems to be it! Thanks, I've been
looking for an answer to this since then. Everything seems to be working
well now, but I will post an update if the problem reoccurs.

How do we report this bug to Microsoft and then how do we know when it is
fixed?

Michelle <<

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 24 Jul 2005 15:32 GMT

To add to what Bob has said, the following information has been posted
elsewhere:

PC Review - KB891861 - Update rollup 1 for 2000 service pack 4
(specifically fastfat.sys) breaks ability to save Office docs to
floppy#post6423226:
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=6423226#post6423226

You will be able to contact Microsoft Technical Support and easily open a
non-fee support incident and request the hotfix from KB article 904368. Note
that the article 904368 has not yet been published.

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tweetyhack - 29 Jul 2005 20:41 GMT

Thanks. I'm have the same problem and worked on it the whole morning.

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Charles Kenyon - 20 Jul 2005 17:39 GMT

Could you allow saving to a single folder on the hard disk and have your
log-in procedure empty that folder? When Word writes to a floppy you can end
up with (1) the document on the floppy, (2) an unreadable document on the
floppy, or (3) an erased or corrupt floppy.

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Michelle - 20 Jul 2005 19:31 GMT

Hi Charles,

That's a possibility, but most people require a saved copy of their document
that they can take away with them. It's not only resumes, but homework
assignments and letters. I know floppies are not dependable and we often
have patrons that lose their files because of a bad floppy. Could anyone
point me in the direction of some documentation on floppies that supports
this? I'd like to share it with patrons and staff.

Thanks!

Michelle

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> log-in procedure empty that folder? When Word writes to a floppy you can end
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Charles Kenyon - 20 Jul 2005 19:40 GMT

You have them save to the hard drive and then from Explorer copy from the
hard drive to the floppy. This avoids the problems with Word wrecking files
on the floppy.

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JohnR - 25 Jul 2005 21:41 GMT

I quite often save to a floppy in Both Word 2000 & Word 2003. I have never
had a corrupted file on these media. Am I doing something wrong ????
John

>I work for a public library and we offer word processing to the public.
>The
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> have
> some very unhappy users.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 25 Jul 2005 23:41 GMT

No, you've just been very lucky. And you must not be using Windows 2000.

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> I quite often save to a floppy in Both Word 2000 & Word 2003. I have never
> had a corrupted file on these media. Am I doing something wrong ????
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> > some very unhappy users.

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JohnR - 26 Jul 2005 17:41 GMT

No, I guess I was Lucky. Went from ME --> XP Home

> No, you've just been very lucky. And you must not be using Windows 2000.
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