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WordPerfect QuickWords to Word AutoText

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Rosemary Hage - 17 Mar 2004 14:14 GMT
Hello,

We are converting from WP11 to Word 2000.  I understand
that to get your WordPerfect QuickWords list into Word
AutoText, you have to copy and paste them using the
Organizer.

Does anyone have a way of automating this process?  A
macro perhaps?  I will have to do it for 25+ users.

Many thanks,
Rosemary
Mary Gudobba - 17 Mar 2004 15:11 GMT
Have you actually done this?  It is my understanding that WordPerfect Quick
Words are not easily imported into Word, that they have to be re-created.

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Rosemary Hage - 17 Mar 2004 17:14 GMT
Hi,

No we have not done this as yet.  I am working on finding
the most efficient way.  Our users have printed lists of
their WordPerfect Quickwords using a macro I found on the
Internet.  I understand the way to get them into Word's
AutoText is by using the Organizer.  So now I'm trying to
determine if there is a way to automate this particular
part of the process.

Thanks,

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Mary Gudobba - 17 Mar 2004 17:48 GMT
I don't think it's possible to import them into word using the organizer.
If you have the quick words in a document you can then redefine them as
autotext in word, but the organizer would not be involved in the process.

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Rosemary Hage - 17 Mar 2004 18:07 GMT
Ok, thanks very much Mary.

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Charles Kenyon - 17 Mar 2004 20:02 GMT
It appears your original question has been answered as well as I could. Here
is some general advice on moving from WP to Word.

Converting documents:
I would not recommend using converted documents long-term. They will be
filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst time. This
is especially true of any documents containing automatic numbering or
bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the following process:

In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as
text files.

Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your
formatting to look.

Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save
this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using
styles, not direct formatting. Save it again.

To use a template within Word, use File => New and pick your template. This
will create a new document for you.

Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's
methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these
programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can
easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. If you are unwilling to take
the time to learn to use Word's methods, you should stick to using Word Pad.
You'll have a lot less grief, although you'll miss out on a lot of raw
power.

See <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordVsWordPerfect.htm>
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/TipsAndGotchas.htm>
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm>
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordPerfectConverters.htm>
<URL:
http://businesssoft.about.com/compute/businesssoft/library/blconvert.htm>
for information on Word for Word Perfect users.

For more:
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm>
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart1.htm>
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/WordsNumberingExplained.htm>
<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/WhatTemplatesStore.htm>

In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a
special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like
pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this.
Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys()
   Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True
End Sub

Learn about Styles - really learn! I resisted for years and now regret every
day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push,
it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied
to it!

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lizviola - 23 Mar 2004 21:25 GMT
I'm having a *really* hard time believing that there is not some kind of
third-party utility to convert Quick Words to AutoText.  It just seems
so obvious to me that this would be necessary.

So I'm bumping this and seconding the question.

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lizviola
brianbk1 - 20 May 2004 21:59 GMT
Rosemary,

Did you find a way to do this?  I have to do the same thing.

Thanks,

Brian

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Charles Kenyon - 21 May 2004 05:22 GMT
Brian,

See my other posts in this thread, especially today's.
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Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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Charles Kenyon - 21 May 2004 02:48 GMT
Jay Freedman has a utility called AutoTextLoader which will load AutoText
from a two-column Word table. The first column has the name for the AutoText
entry and the second column has the actual entry. It works well.

He is an MVP and usually scans messages in the word.vba newsgroups and the
newusers, pagelayout, and docmanagement newsgroups. You could post something
in the vba.beginners newsgroup to see if you can find out where to download
it. Put AutoTextLoader in the subject line.
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Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
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Charles Kenyon - 21 May 2004 05:21 GMT
I persuaded Jay to let me put the utility on my website. You can download it
from there. http://addbalance.com/word/download.htm#autotextloader

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Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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> Jay Freedman has a utility called AutoTextLoader which will load AutoText
> from a two-column Word table. The first column has the name for the AutoText
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> > Rosemary
lizviola - 18 Jan 2005 21:41 GMT
Charles, I'm only just now getting back here to follow up on this bu
wanted to say thank you SO much.  That's a very helpful one to have.  
truly appreciate it!
Liz

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