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MS Office Forum / Word / Conversions / June 2006Russian words don't convert
greetings! I have a word document that was originally created using Word 97. It contained English words, along with a few Russian words. When I now open it up in Office 2003, in the place where the Russian words were are various numbers: 184?42#. I have tried converting the file (now in Office 2003) back into Word 97 using the Conversion Wizard-to see if the Russian words reappear--Nope!! Any ideas of what the problem is? Or where I can go look for help? thanks, julie Do you have the same fonts on the system as you used for the Russian text in the original Word 97 document? If not, I would try to get and re-install the fonts you used. However, if the amount of Russian text is small enough, it may be easier to retype it than to try to solve the conversion problem. Peter Jamieson > greetings! > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > thanks, > julie peter: thank you for your helpful suggestions--I am trying them out. It turns out that on some of the documents, the Russian appears, but on others, it doesn't. Any ideas why? I really like your idea of just retyping in the Russian words--but in order to do that, I would have to re-open the document in Word 97, then look at the Russian word, correct? thanks, julie s. > greetings! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > thanks, > julie > It turns out that on some of the documents, the Russian appears, but on > others, it doesn't. Any ideas why? Not really - these character encoding issues usually baffle me too. > I really like your idea of just retyping in the Russian words--but in > order > to do that, I would have to re-open the document in Word 97, then look at > the > Russian word, correct? Yes - if you can't go back to Word 97, that would certainly be a problem. How much material do you have, and is it confidential or anything? For a small amount of material I can have a go at converting here if you like. Peter Jamieson > peter: > thank you for your helpful suggestions--I am trying them out. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> thanks, >> julie Oh yes, the one thing that may be worth checking for each document is Tools|Options|Compatibility|Font Substitution. If something is listed in there it suggests that Word does not have the font you originally used. However, if you never see anything other than "No font substitution is necessary..." then this is probably just a red herring. Peter Jamieson > peter: > thank you for your helpful suggestions--I am trying them out. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> thanks, >> julie Peter: Bingo!! In the font substitution dialog box, I get 2 entries: Missing document font: Substitued font: WP CyrillicA Symbol WP MathA Symbol I have checked "Fonts" in control panel, and sure enough, neither WP.. font is listed. I have also checked on my "Fonts that are installed with Office " list--(that lists all fonts for Office 2003, Office 2k, Office XP and Office 97), and these 2 WP... fonts are not listed. So should I: 1) Hit the "convert permanently" button or 2) look on Microsoft's web site or the web for these specific fonts? or 3) something else? thanks, julie s. > Oh yes, the one thing that may be worth checking for each document is > Tools|Options|Compatibility|Font Substitution. If something is listed in [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >> thanks, > >> julie Peter: After finding the 2 fonts, and putting them into c:\windows\fonts, the Russian appears!! Yeah! thank you for your help! julie > Peter: > Bingo!! In the font substitution dialog box, I get 2 entries: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > >> thanks, > > >> julie Glad to hear it, Peter Jamieson > Peter: > After finding the 2 fonts, and putting them into c:\windows\fonts, [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >> > >> thanks, >> > >> julie Peter: well, the plot thickens! when I opened up another word document (from the same source), the Russian doesn't get converted. For clarification: Doc1--does work Doc2--does not I have checked on both documents (the 1 that works, the 1 that doesn't) 1)the fonts--they are installed, as they should be . 2)the rights that I have to both documents--read,write,modify, etc--are both the same The only difference that I notice is--when I do Tools, Option, Compatibility--on Doc1 under "Recommended options for: I see -->Microsoft Word 97 But when I do Tools, Option, Compatibility for Doc2 under "Recommended Options for", I see--> WordPerfect 5.x I am assuming that Doc1 was converted over from Word 97 and that Doc2 was converted from WordPerfect 5.x--is that correct? Also, why does the Russian get converted in Doc1, but not in Doc2? Any ideas? Any ideas where I can go and look? thank you, julie s. > Glad to hear it, > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> julie > I am assuming that Doc1 was converted over from Word 97 and that Doc2 was > converted from WordPerfect 5.x--is that correct? I don't know either, but it certainly sounds likely. Most of these compatibility options are only really relevant if you really need to keep the layout as close as possible to the way it was done in the original Word processor. In particular, WP uses a different spacing algorithm from Word (some say it is better). If you don't need that, it's probably best to start with a clean slate and change the options to the recommended ones for Word 2003. However, whether that will have any impact whatever on the fonts issue, I rather doubt. WP used to have its own special fonts for intenrational character handling and that may have a bearing on this issue. Peter Jamieson > Peter: > well, the plot thickens! [quoted text clipped - 111 lines] >> >> > >> thanks, >> >> > >> julie |
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