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Khoshravan - 05 Jul 2006 08:49 GMT
How can I keep figure or charts with their captions together?
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Rasoul Khoshravan Azar
Civil Engineer, Osaka, Japan

Stefan Blom - 05 Jul 2006 10:03 GMT
Place the object (figure, chart, etc.) "In line with text" (Format |
<Object>, Layout tab) and press Enter (so that the object is the only
item in a paragraph). Insert the caption in the paragraph below the
object. Select the two paragraphs and then, on the Forms toolbar,
click the Insert Frame button. Word adds a frame around the items,
which will keep them together. Use Format | Frame to set placement
options for the frame, if necessary.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

> How can I keep figure or charts with their captions together?
Khoshravan - 06 Jul 2006 01:47 GMT
Thanks Stefan. It wokred and helped a lot. Just one more question about
moving the frame.
When I move the frame to top of the page, it eneters the heading area and I
loose control of precisely adujsting its position. I think it has something
to do with anchoring icon which appears in left margin of the page (frame was
in left side, first I moved it to right side of page. Anchor didn't come.
Second when I moved frame up, it went wrong)
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Rasoul Khoshravan Azar
Civil Engineer, Osaka, Japan

> Place the object (figure, chart, etc.) "In line with text" (Format |
> <Object>, Layout tab) and press Enter (so that the object is the only
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 06 Jul 2006 03:51 GMT
You can use Format Frame to define its position precisely, relative to the
page, the margins, or the paragraph it's anchored to.

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Words into Type
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> Thanks Stefan. It wokred and helped a lot. Just one more question about
> moving the frame.
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Cindy M  -WordMVP- - 06 Jul 2006 15:11 GMT
Hi =?Utf-8?B?S2hvc2hyYXZhbg==?=,

> When I move the frame to top of the page, it eneters the heading area and I
> loose control of precisely adujsting its position. I think it has something
> to do with anchoring icon which appears in left margin of the page (frame was
> in left side, first I moved it to right side of page. Anchor didn't come.
> Second when I moved frame up, it went wrong)

Once you've created the frame, click on its edge and "wiggle it" a bit until you
see that anchor. Make sure it's next to a paragraph that's going to stay on the
page, or one with which the picture should be linked (if it moves to another
page, the frame will go, as well).

Now right-click the frame and choose "Format Frame". You'll find a checkbox in
there to LOCK the anchor. This means that the anchor will stay with this
paragraph, no matter where you drag the frame. That may help :-)

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Idaho Word Man - 05 Jul 2006 16:02 GMT
If you don't want a frame around the figure and caption, a simpler way to
keep them together is to do everything Stefan said except for inserting a
frame from the Forms toolbar.  Instead, format the first paragraph (whether
it is the figure or the caption) as Keep With Next ¶ (Format | Paragraph |
Page and Line Breaks).

Fred

> How can I keep figure or charts with their captions together?
Khoshravan - 06 Jul 2006 03:51 GMT
What is the advantage your method (Not puting a frame)?
Does it solve the moving issue as I mentioned in my previous post?
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Rasoul Khoshravan Azar
Civil Engineer, Osaka, Japan

> If you don't want a frame around the figure and caption, a simpler way to
> keep them together is to do everything Stefan said except for inserting a
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Stefan Blom - 07 Jul 2006 09:10 GMT
If you don't need to position the caption and the figure relative to
the page (or wrap text around them), you don't need the frame.
Instead, as Fred suggested, you could just let them be part of the
ordinary text flow. In such a case, "Keep with next" makes sure that
Word does not break the page between the figure and its caption.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

> What is the advantage your method (Not puting a frame)?
> Does it solve the moving issue as I mentioned in my previous post?
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Pghmax - 31 Dec 2007 20:47 GMT
I appreciate the good thoughts but it's not working for me.

I am using Word 2007 on XP.

I simply want to keep captions with tables and figures and let them flow
wherever in the document - hate to have a tiny graphic taking up an entire
line.

But I can't figure out how to "insert a frame"  - as has been suggested
elsewhere. Is that no longer there in 2007?

And i also tried to just check "keep with next" on the paragraph containing
the caption. But when i do that and then go back and select the graphic and
choose "with text wrapping", the graphic moves to the intended location, but
the caption sits stubbornly where it was, except now there is an anchor
nearby. Hmmm?

> If you don't need to position the caption and the figure relative to
> the page (or wrap text around them), you don't need the frame.
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Stefan Blom - 04 Jan 2008 09:41 GMT
>I appreciate the good thoughts but it's not working for me.
>
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> But I can't figure out how to "insert a frame"  - as has been suggested
> elsewhere. Is that no longer there in 2007?

The Insert Frame command is found here: On the Developer ribbon tab, click
Legacy Tools (in the Control group); you'll find it under "Legacy Forms."

Note: If you cannot see the Developer tab, turn it on via Office button |
Word Options, Popular category. Enable the "Show Developer tab in the
Ribbon" option and click OK.

> And i also tried to just check "keep with next" on the paragraph
> containing
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> the caption sits stubbornly where it was, except now there is an anchor
> nearby. Hmmm?

"Keep with next" assumes that the graphic is "In line with text" and thus
treated as (part of) an ordinary text paragraph.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

>> If you don't need to position the caption and the figure relative to
>> the page (or wrap text around them), you don't need the frame.
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Yves Boisvert - 11 Mar 2008 20:24 GMT
> How can I keep figure or charts with their captions together?
Yves Boisvert - 11 Mar 2008 20:26 GMT
I have used the Frame feature, however we have found that using a single cell
table (or two cells table for side by side) that you have a better control of
the figure and the caption.

The table properties allows for great controls on its position

Yves

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