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How do I remove English (US) as a default language?
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Rigadon - 29 Sep 2006 12:23 GMT I’ve recently configured a PC with English (UK) ‘Regional and Language Options’ and I’ve enabled English (UK) in 'Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings’ (I’ve removed English (US)). However, the default language in Word continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default languages.
Graham Mayor - 29 Sep 2006 12:39 GMT You cannot entirely get rid of US English in Word's language options. If, as you indicate, Windows is set to UK English, that will be the default for Word.
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> I've recently configured a PC with English (UK) 'Regional and Language > Options' and I've enabled English (UK) in 'Microsoft Office 2003 > Language Settings' (I've removed English (US)). However, the default > language in Word continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as > default languages. Rigadon - 29 Sep 2006 12:57 GMT Thanks very much for your prompt reply.
I gather that English (US) will always be a default language in Word 2003.
Why is it that I can remove English (US) as a default language in Word 2004 on a MAC (OS X) but can’t do it in Word 2003 on a PC (XP Home)?
> You cannot entirely get rid of US English in Word's language options. If, as > you indicate, Windows is set to UK English, that will be the default for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > language in Word continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as > > default languages. Stefan Blom - 29 Sep 2006 12:48 GMT See http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm.
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> I've recently configured a PC with English (UK) 'Regional and Language
> Options' and I've enabled English (UK) in 'Microsoft Office 2003 Language
> Settings' (I've removed English (US)). However, the default language in Word
> continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Rigadon - 29 Sep 2006 13:02 GMT Thanks Stefan.
I’ve followed the advice but English (US) {along with English (UK)} remains a default language.
I don’t want to remove/delete English (US), I just don’t want it as a default language.
> See http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default > languages. Stefan Blom - 29 Sep 2006 13:20 GMT From Microsoft Office Language Settings, you should be able to remove any language that isn't the default for *Windows*. Are you saying that English (US) is not the default language of Windows, and that you still cannot remove it?
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> Thanks Stefan. > > I've followed the advice but English (US) {along with English (UK)} remains
> a default language. > > I don't want to remove/delete English (US), I just don't want it as a
> default language. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default > > languages. Rigadon - 29 Sep 2006 15:47 GMT Yes!
Start->Settings->Control Panel->Regional and Language Settings->Languages Tab->Details... 'Default input language' is English (UK) 'Installed services': English (United Kingdom) - Handwriting Recognition.., 'Keyboard' - United Kingdom No other lanuages installed.
Start->Programs->Microsoft Office->Microsoft Office Tools->Microsoft Office 2003 Languages Settings->Enabled Languages Tab... 'Enabled languages: English (UK)
Word->Tools->Language->Set Language... {Under 'Mark selected text as:' above the partition/double line} English (UK) and English (US) {and I can't remove English (US)}
It's driving me nuts ;-)
> From Microsoft Office Language Settings, you should be able to remove > any language that isn't the default for *Windows*. Are you saying that [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default > > > languages. Graham Mayor - 30 Sep 2006 06:49 GMT As I told you before. It is not possible to remove this! The settings shown above the line are not 'defaults' but recently used settings and they are buried deep in the registry. I have searched, but the setting appears to be undocumented. Even if you were to remove it, I would guess that the first time you pasted from the internet you would have it nack again as language is a text formatting attribute.
I don't know why you are fretting over this. If you make proper use of styles and have the language option set not to automatically detect, it isn't a place you need to go very often.
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> Yes! > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >>>>> However, the default language in Word continues to show English >>>>> (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Rigadon - 30 Sep 2006 14:29 GMT I guessed it was an operating system problem (registry in XP).
I’m not fretting just disappointed at Microsoft. XP really is a poor OS. Lets hope Vista is better.
I’ll now advise my students to buy iMacs with Office 2004.
> As I told you before. It is not possible to remove this! The settings shown > above the line are not 'defaults' but recently used settings and they are [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >>>>> However, the default language in Word continues to show English > >>>>> (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 30 Sep 2006 14:44 GMT I cannot imagine how you can extrapolate "XP really is a poor OS" from the fact that U.S. English language settings ride in on documents you receive from outside. If this did *not* happen, there would be a lot of unsatisfied users unable to receive documents in any language other than their own.
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> I guessed it was an operating system problem (registry in XP). > [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > >>>>> However, the default language in Word continues to show English > > >>>>> (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Rigadon - 30 Sep 2006 15:38 GMT Bangs head against wall.
I DON"T WANT TO DELETE ENGLISH (US), I just don't want it as a default language. Please read my above posts.
As for XP being poor - It's not. I was wrong. But it's second best when compared with the MAC OS X.
I'll explain:
Why is it that the MAC OS X allows me to set any language as default in Word 2004 but XP will not allow me to do the same with Word 2003 (see Graham's post - once the registry value for Office 2003 in XP is set it cannot be changed).
In other words, when XP was set up on my laptop the default language was set as English (UK) {and for some unknown reason English (US)}. I didn't realise this untill after I'd installed Office 2003. When I opened an Office application for the first time a registry value was set, which cannot be changed. This value insists that English (UK) and English (US) are set as default.
Why are you so defensive? This isn’t an anti-US post. UK people should be able to set English (UK) as their default language in Word without also having English (US) as a default language. Wouldn’t you agree? You probably don’t see it as a problem because it doesn’t affect you.
> I cannot imagine how you can extrapolate "XP really is a poor OS" from the > fact that U.S. English language settings ride in on documents you receive [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > > >>>>> However, the default language in Word continues to show English > > > >>>>> (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 30 Sep 2006 16:46 GMT I think you're still confused. If you follow the instructions at http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm, you can set English (U.K.) as your default language, for Word and every other application on your computer. When you create a new Word document, the language will be English (U.K.). But if you paste content from another source into that document, it may bring English (U.S.) or some other language with it. You can select the pasted content and change the language. The languages that are listed "above the line" in the Language dialog in Word are just the "recently used" languages; even if you could remove every language but English (U.K.) from that list, other languages would be added whenever you pasted material formatted with a different language.
If I change the language in a document to English (U.K.), I see both versions of English "above the line." But if I quit and restart Word, I see only English (U.S.). Are you saying that, despite setting English (U.K.) as the default language for the entire system (following the instructions in the article referenced above), you still see English (U.S.) in the MRU list when you restart Word?
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> Bangs head against wall. > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > > > >>>>> However, the default language in Word continues to show English > > > > >>>>> (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Rigadon - 01 Oct 2006 02:13 GMT "Are you saying that, despite setting English (U.K.) as the default language for the entire system (following the instructions in the article referenced above), you still see English (U.S.) in the MRU list when you restart Word? "
Yes.
I'd nevertheless like to thank you for your advice.
> I think you're still confused. If you follow the instructions at > http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm, you can set English [quoted text clipped - 141 lines] > English > > > > > >>>>> (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Ron - 30 Sep 2006 16:24 GMT Try: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP051895581033.aspx
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> I’ve recently configured a PC with English (UK) ‘Regional and Language > Options’ and I’ve enabled English (UK) in 'Microsoft Office 2003 Language > Settings’ (I’ve removed English (US)). However, the default language in Word > continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default languages. Rigadon - 01 Oct 2006 02:16 GMT Thanks Ron. I'll give it a try and report back.
> Try: > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP051895581033.aspx [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Settings’ (I’ve removed English (US)). However, the default language in Word > > continues to show English (UK) and English (US) as default languages. David Stephensen - 30 Sep 2007 13:35 GMT I followed all of the instructions on the suggested page, including removing US English as a possible language in the Office 2003 Language Settings.
I edited my normal.dot and set all styles to English Australia. I set the default language in normal.dot to English Australia.
Even after all this, when I start a new document it says US English.
My workaround for each time you start a new document (which does not make me admire Word very much): Do all of the above for your language, then start the new doc, type one character, ctrl+a (select all), ctrl+space (remove all character formats), ctrl+q (remove all paragraph formats), then release your selection. Now the doc is in the right language, as long as you never delete everything. If you delete everything it reverts to US English.
If you create a doc template with existing text, use the above method, but make sure the last paragraph of the doc template is not blank. The last paragraph in a dot will always revert to US English if it is blank.
Please try this and let me know how you go.
David
Karenish - 11 Mar 2008 19:05 GMT I am with Rigadon, I am using my new word programme and am currently writing a 4000 word assignment in English (UK) I have tried to remove English (US) by deleting on the correct page. But close the page and re open it and bingo there is US again. I can change to UK when I am on the current page, but as soon as I scroll to another page, or start a new one it defaults back to English (US) - I have nothing against americans (grin), but we dont spell specialise with a "z" so the darn document is correcting my spelling to US each time and its driving me nuts. Have tried all of your suggestions and think it must be a blip in the system.
> I followed all of the instructions on the suggested page, including removing > US English as a possible language in the Office 2003 Language Settings. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > David Suzanne S. Barnhill - 11 Mar 2008 20:54 GMT See http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm and http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/MasterSpellCheck.htm
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>I am with Rigadon, I am using my new word programme and am currently >writing [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >> David
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