Hidden "speech marks" and entry problems "" Word2007

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David Driscole - 28 Jun 2007 03:26 GMT

Hey there.

I'm the token IT/PC guy at work. One of the girls is having trouble using
"speech marks" or "quotation marks" when she is writing in Word.

If they are inserted as you write, the first set "can be seen, but the last
set is invisible until you hit enter

Not really a bit problem "", but if she wanted to go back and put speech
marks around the work problem in this sentence, it would end up looking like
it does now.

Any ideas on how to fix it?

Many thanks, David

:: Notes from previous post below ::

Thanks John. I've had a look but that function is allready enabled. I'll
move this across to the PC Word group.

Thanks for your suggestion.

"John McGhie" wrote:

> Hi David:
>
> Look up "Autocorrect" in the Help and go to Word Options>Autocorrect
> options>Autoformat as you type... And make sure "Replace straight quotes
> with smart quotes" is enabled.
>
> Hope that's it...
>
> If not, re-post your question in the PC Word group, this one is for Mac
> Word.
>
> Cheers
>
> On 28/6/07 9:12 AM, in article
> 83DC5C64-EE50-44D2-B009-3E511952941D@microsoft.com, "David Driscole"
> <daviddriscole at gmail dot com> wrote:
>
> > Hey there.
> >
> > I'm the token IT/PC guy at work. One of the girls is having trouble using
> > "speech marks" or "quotation marks" when she is writing in Word.
> >
> > If they are inserted as you write, the first set "can be seen, but the last
> > set is invisible until you hit enter
> >
> > Not really a bit problem "", but if she wanted to go back and put speech
> > marks around the work problem in this sentance, it would end up looking like
> > it does now.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to fix it?
> >
> > Many thanks, David

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Herb Tyson [MVP] - 28 Jun 2007 04:06 GMT

It looks like she has a foreign keyboard (one that uses "dead keys" for
inserting accented characters) enabled. On the task bar, is the language bar
showing? Ordinarily, is has EN (in the US). If it has ES or FR, then this is
the problem. Click the language indicator, and choose EN.

To keep it from happening again... you can either remove the additional
keyboard languages (unless they're needed), or at the very least,
right-click EN and choose Settings, and set all of the hot keys for
switching input languages to None. Otherwise, certain combinations of Shift
and Ctrl can cause this problem to recur... without warning.

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> Hey there.
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David Driscole - 28 Jun 2007 04:46 GMT

Thanks Herb - but still no luck.

I checked the settings. Defaults were set at EN US. I've added EN NZ (and
set as defualt) and modified the keyboard settings to US. Still keeps doing
the same thing.

David

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> inserting accented characters) enabled. On the task bar, is the language bar
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Herb Tyson [MVP] - 28 Jun 2007 14:17 GMT

If she presses 'e, does it convert into é? If so, then check to see if the
keyboard is set to US or to United States International in the language
Settings. I'm guessing that it's set to international. US - International
does what you're seeing. Plain US doesn't.

When set to international, when you press " or ', the system waits to see
what you press next. If you press an accentable character, the system
swallows the accent and spits out the accented character. If you press
something else, the system then types " or ' respectively. From a practical
standpoint, that means you have to work harder to type a plain " character,
but not as hard to type í, ï, or è.

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David Driscole - 28 Jun 2007 22:24 GMT

Shot Herb - you got it ; )

We've rest the default to NZ English spelling and US Keyboard input. Well
done.

> If she presses 'e, does it convert into é? If so, then check to see if the
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Herb Tyson [MVP] - 29 Jun 2007 02:35 GMT

"Shot Herb"

Where I live, "Shot Herb" would mean somebody'd be planning a memorial
service. ;-)

Glad to help.

Cheers,

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> Shot Herb - you got it ; )
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Doug Robbins - Word MVP - 30 Jun 2007 09:22 GMT

He probably meant to say "Good Shot Herb". In other words, your advice was
right on target.

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Herb Tyson [MVP] - 30 Jun 2007 14:15 GMT

I gathered the meaning, but thought maybe "Shot" was an NZ expression. This
had me heading back to the Ngaio Marsh collection. ;-)

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> He probably meant to say "Good Shot Herb". In other words, your advice
> was right on target.
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Doug Robbins - Word MVP - 30 Jun 2007 23:39 GMT

There is amongst some a tendency to economise on words. To them the "Good"
would have been implied and therefore unnecessary. Particularly amongst
spectators of a sporting event

It probably originated with cricket.

Any idea what that is? <G>

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>I gathered the meaning, but thought maybe "Shot" was an NZ expression. This
>had me heading back to the Ngaio Marsh collection. ;-)
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Herb Tyson [MVP] - 01 Jul 2007 00:28 GMT

Yeah. It's a jumping cockroach. ;-) (I've been to the UK more times than I
can count... but I've been to NZ only virtually... as a ham radio operator.)

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> There is amongst some a tendency to economise on words. To them the
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