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Cutting and pasting Cyrillic into other programmes.

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David Young - 02 Apr 2004 16:02 GMT
I would like to use pieces of Cyrillic (Russian) text from
a Word document in Works Database.  Unfortunately, using
cut and paste does not seem to work.  Is there any way of
doing this, with or without additional software?
Michael \(michka\) Kaplan [MS] - 04 Apr 2004 15:27 GMT
I do not know what version of Word and of Workd you are using, so its hard
to say what might be happening. Could you provide some more information on
the applications and versions you are using (and also the default system
locale setting and version of your operating system), as well as the exact
manifestation of failure when you say it "does not seem to work" ?

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> I would like to use pieces of Cyrillic (Russian) text from
> a Word document in Works Database.  Unfortunately, using
> cut and paste does not seem to work.  Is there any way of
> doing this, with or without additional software?
David Young - 16 Apr 2004 10:57 GMT
I have:

Microsoft Word 200 (9.0.3821 SR-1)

Microsoft Works 200
Wersja (Version) 5.0

Both are the Polish versions.

What happens is this:  I type something in Russian in a
Word document using Times New Roman.  I cut it and try to
paste it into one of the boxes in Baza Danych (Database).  
No matter which font I have selected, it always comes out
as a string of question marks.

Even Teletext Russian does not work.  I can type using
this font (although the keyboard configuration is no
longer the Russian typewriter arrangement I have in Word)
but as soon as I hit Enter, it changes to another string
of question marks.

>-----Original Message-----
>I do not know what version of Word and of Workd you are using, so its hard
>to say what might be happening. Could you provide some more information on
>the applications and versions you are using (and also the default system
>locale setting and version of your operating system), as well as the exact
>manifestation of failure when you say it "does not seem to work" ?
Michael \(michka\) Kaplan [MS] - 16 Apr 2004 16:40 GMT
"David Young" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote...

> What happens is this:  I type something in Russian in a
> Word document using Times New Roman.  I cut it and try to
> paste it into one of the boxes in Baza Danych (Database).
> No matter which font I have selected, it always comes out
> as a string of question marks.

This would indicate that the program is not a Unicode program, and that your
default system locale (named the "language for non-Unicode programs" in
WindowsXP and Windows Server 2003) is not set to Russian (or other locale
that supports the Russian default system code page).

> Even Teletext Russian does not work.  I can type using
> this font (although the keyboard configuration is no
> longer the Russian typewriter arrangement I have in Word)
> but as soon as I hit Enter, it changes to another string
> of question marks.

Same issue. Question marks mean bad conversion from Unicode.

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David Young - 17 Apr 2004 10:55 GMT
With that in mind, is there a way to convert Database so
that it accepts Unicode?

By the way, I forgot to mention that I am working under
Windows ME (PL), if that is any help.
Michael \(michka\) Kaplan [MS] - 18 Apr 2004 08:58 GMT
As far as I know, you need to change products -- to find one that supports
Unicode. Like Jet (4.0) or SQL Server (7.0 or later).

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> With that in mind, is there a way to convert Database so
> that it accepts Unicode?
>
> By the way, I forgot to mention that I am working under
> Windows ME (PL), if that is any help.
Paul Gorodyansky - 21 Apr 2004 04:39 GMT
> I have:
>
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> No matter which font I have selected, it always comes out
> as a string of question marks.

If you cannot upgrade your Works to its Unicode version as MichKa
suggested, then you can use some work-around methods -

that 'question marks' problem *is* solvable, you are not the only
one who faces same problem while trying to do Copy/Paste between
Unicode and non-Unicode programs.

Please see Chapter 2 "Copy/Paste" in the "Unicode related issues"
section of my site.

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Regards,
Paul Gorodyansky
"Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet":
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/

Paul Gorodyansky - 08 Apr 2004 02:10 GMT
> I would like to use pieces of Cyrillic (Russian) text from
> a Word document in Works Database.  Unfortunately, using
> cut and paste does not seem to work.  Is there any way of
> doing this, with or without additional software?

Usually such problems happen during Copy/Paste between
a Unicode program (such as MS Word 2000 or Internet Explorer)
and a non-Unicode program (f.e. Dreamweaver) if Cyrillic
is not a system code page.

There are some work-around methods for such situation -
please see Chapter 2 "Copy/Paste" in the "Unicode related issues"
section of my site.

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Regards,
Paul Gorodyansky
"Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet":
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/

 
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