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Customizing smart quotes

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Claus Tondering - 09 Nov 2004 10:38 GMT
I like the smart quotes feature (which converts the " character depending on
its position relative to a word). However, I have problems when using this
feature with languages other than English.

Some languages have several different quotation mark styles. For example,
Danish has three different styles for quotation marks. Which style you use is
a matter of personal preference.

When I switch Word to Danish, it enforces a quotation mark style which I don't
like.

I would therefore like to change the two characters that Word uses as
substitues for ". How can I do that? I seems that once you have selected a
particular language, Word gives you one and only one quotation mark style. Is
it impossible to customize this?

(This question applies both to Word and to PowerPoint. In Word I've managed to
write a macro that does what I want, but that seems like an unnecessarily
cumbersome solution. Also, it will not work in PowerPoint because I cannot
remap the keyboard in that application.)

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Claus Tondering
Cindy M  -WordMVP- - 10 Nov 2004 14:44 GMT
Hi Claus,

I'm afraid there is no way to customize this. German has a similar problem as
Danish, FWIW.

Klaus Linke once discovered that the kinds of quotes he wants are the default
for one of the Slavic languages. So, when he wants those quotes he does this:
   - formats the text with that language (Slovenian, in this case)
   - types the document with straight quotes
   - goes into AutoFormat (NOT "as you type) and deactivates all the settings
except the one for Smart quotes
   - Goes to Format/AutoFormat
   - activates AutoFormat now, then clicks "OK"

Another approach is to type the text with Smart quotes on, then use Find/Replace
to replace them with other characters.

> I like the smart quotes feature (which converts the " character depending on
> its position relative to a word). However, I have problems when using this
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> particular language, Word gives you one and only one quotation mark style. Is
> it impossible to customize this?

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Fishy - 15 Nov 2004 23:36 GMT
Sounds like it would be easy enough to make a macro -- type with smart
quotes on, then replace with the quote markings of your choice.  

Unless, of course, you're using different quote styles in the same
document.  

<*((((><{
Fishy@Ocean.Net

In the last exciting episode on Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:44:53 +0100, Cindy
M  -WordMVP- <C.Meister-C@hispeed.ch> wrote:

|Hi Claus,
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|This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply
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Klaus Linke - 18 Nov 2004 00:16 GMT
> Sounds like it would be easy enough to make a macro -- type with smart
> quotes on, then replace with the quote markings of your choice.
>
> Unless, of course, you're using different quote styles in the same
> document.

Hi  <*((((><{

Sounds easy enough...
The only really hard part comes when you don't want to mess with the
AutoFormat options.
You'd have to remember them one by one, and reset them later. And each
version has different options.

I wanted to write a FAQ article, but those problems made me abandon it.

You also should be aware that AutoFormat only fixes the quotes in the main
text, not in footnotes or textboxes or comments.

Regards,
Klaus
Fishy - 22 Nov 2004 02:55 GMT
Hi Klaus,
    I think I recall fiddling with this issue when I was doing some
work on Native American Indian languages using MS office, WP, and File
Maker Pro -- a few compatibility issues.  

    If you use the smart quotes to begin with, you'll get a left-curl
and a right-curl.  
    Using find/replace, you can select just the left-curl and replace
it with the symbol of your choice; same with the right curl.  
    I recall making a simple macro, which included replacing the
single quotes -single-left-curl and single-right-curl with the symbols
of my choice.  
    I had to run the macro on the document, then on the footnotes.
Didn't use text boxes -- that sounds like a first-class pain.  
    I did not use Auto Format.  My impression of most of MS's "auto"
goodies is that they cause more trouble than they save.  

Or -- send the document to me, and I'll format it for you the way you
like.  For a reasonable fee, of course.  

<*((((><{
Fishy@Ocean.Net

In the last exciting episode on Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:16:59 +0100,

|> Sounds like it would be easy enough to make a macro -- type with smart
|> quotes on, then replace with the quote markings of your choice.
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|Regards,
|Klaus
Klaus Linke - 24 Nov 2004 15:07 GMT
> Or -- send the document to me, and I'll format it for you the
> way you like.  For a reasonable fee, of course.  

No chance  <*((((><{
It's what I do for a living, too!

:-)  Klaus
Fishy - 28 Nov 2004 02:17 GMT
Subcontracting?  

<*((((><{
Fishy@Ocean.Net

In the last exciting episode on Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:07:05 +0100,

|> Or -- send the document to me, and I'll format it for you the
|> way you like.  For a reasonable fee, of course.  
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|
|:-)  Klaus
 
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