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Styles don't apply in Word 2003

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Nancy C. - 12 Feb 2004 05:02 GMT
I have just recently started using Word 2003.  

Whenever I open a new blank document and try to apply
Heading 1 to text, I get a new "Heading, 1" style, but
none of the formatting of Heading 1 is applied.  It does
the same if I click Heading 2, except the "Heading, 1"
turns into "Heading, 2"

In addition, I can't modify the built-in heading styles,
if I try I get the meesage, "This style name already
exists or is reserved for a built-in style."

I have downloaded and installed the updates, and tried a
new Normal.dot, turning off Keep track of formatting, and
uninstalling and reinstalling Word.

Just when I thought I was getting a handle on Word...
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 12 Feb 2004 05:34 GMT
If you're in Normal view, make sure you don't have "Draft font" enabled
(View tab of Tools | Options). Also, in Outline view, you can choose to
display formatting or not.

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> I have just recently started using Word 2003.
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Nancy C. - 13 Feb 2004 02:53 GMT
Thank you very much for reply.  Would you have another
suggestion?  It still isn't working.

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Klaus Linke - 15 Feb 2004 05:39 GMT
> "Heading, 1", "Heading, 2"

Hi Nancy,

How do you apply the styles?

From your description, it sounds as if you have a "Heading" style, and are
somehow creating alias names ("1", "2") for it.
Commas in style names mean you have several (alias) names for the same
style.

Greetings,
Klaus
Nancy C. - 15 Feb 2004 17:34 GMT
Hi Klaus,

I am applying the style by either selecting the entire
paragraph or just placing my cursor into the paragraph.  I
am careful not to select part of a word because I had run
into the Char, Char, Char, style issue in earlier versions
of Word, and apparently this was partly a result of
selecting parts of your paragraphs and applying a style.

What is driving me nuts with this "Heading, 1" issue is
that it happens even when I haven't made any changes to
any styles.  All I'm trying to do is apply one of the
built-in heading styles.  I open a blank document, type
one line of text, apply Heading 1, and then
get "Heading,1" in my style list, and my text doesn't look
any different!  The text should appear as the default
Heading 1 style: Arial, 1 pt, Bold..., but its still the
same Times New Roman, 12 pt.

If I then try to modify even just the font size in Heading
1, I get the message "This style name already exists or is
reserved for a built-in style."  

These are some of the things I've tried doing to fix it:

Un-installing all my programs, and re-installing Windows,
& Office (just in case Word 2003 doesn't like hanging out
with some of my other programs)
Running a virus scan
Confirming Keep track of changes is not selected
Confirming Draft Font is not selected
Following the suggestions in the Knowledge base article
821715 "HOW TO: Rename the Normal.dot Global Template in
Microsoft Office Word 2003" which included trying the
Troubleshoot utility in the Support Template.

Any other suggestions????  Please...

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Klaus Linke - 16 Feb 2004 11:57 GMT
Hi Nancy,

I can't think of an explanation right now...
Does it also happen when you apply the heading styles with Alt+Ctrl+1,
Alt+Ctrl+2?
Does it also happen with documents based on another template?

Klaus
Nancy C. - 16 Feb 2004 16:47 GMT
I know it happens with documents based on another
template.  Someone had sent me a document that I had to
make changes to and I had tried re-applying the Heading 1
style with no luck.

I will try the keyboard shortcut and let you know.

Thank you very much for all your suggestions.

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Bob S - 27 Feb 2004 02:55 GMT
>I have just recently started using Word 2003.  
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>Just when I thought I was getting a handle on Word...

One of the advantages of using a brand new version of Word (i.e. any
version that hasn't had at least two service releases) is that you get
to deal with nice fresh bugs instead of the usual boring old stale
bugs.

In this case it sounds as though Word has decided that your attempt to
apply a style should be interpreted as an attempt to define a new
style by example. Thus it creates a new style with the formatting that
you have provided. Since you didn't have quotation marks around the
two parts of the name, it apparently decided that they were a name and
an alias.

The intriguing question is why Word performed this unnatural act when
you simply tried to apply a style. Microsoft probably never actually
tested it, but at least one beta tester must have applied a heading
style at some point, and probably would have noticed this odd behavior
if it happened to them.

So I suspect that one of your settings in Tools | Options must be
unusual. Do you have anything interesting set in any option that
involves what formats are displayed, or what happens when selecting?

Bob S
Hank Roberts - 11 Mar 2004 18:25 GMT
Same problem (the apparently corrupt Styles like Heading 4
Char,Heading4 Char Char Char) with Word 2000 SR-2.

Any fix known yet?  I have the same problem that Word will not allow
replacing the messed up thing either by renaming it as "Heading 4" nor
by using the Organizer to copy an unchanged Heading 4 in -- the 'name
is reserved for a built in style' it thinks is already in use.

Only the old trick of stripping down to ASCII and replacing the Styles
using John McGhie's venerable cleanup macros seems to salvage these
documents, so far, in my experience.  Nothing unusual in the
settings/options here.
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Bob S - 19 Mar 2004 21:36 GMT
>Same problem (the apparently corrupt Styles like Heading 4
>Char,Heading4 Char Char Char) with Word 2000 SR-2.
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>by using the Organizer to copy an unchanged Heading 4 in -- the 'name
>is reserved for a built in style' it thinks is already in use.

This is a different problem, the notorious "Char Char" bug.

Word will create styles like "Heading4 Char" (i.e. with one Char) if
you apply a paragraph style to a selection that is not a whole
paragraph. Don't do this. If you are going to apply a paragraph style,
select the entire paragraph. This can be done by double-clicking in
the left margin, or by dragging to include everything including the
paragraph mark, or several other ways. It also works to place the
insertion point in the target paragraph with nothing selected.

Word is apparently not supposed to create styles with multiple Char
suffixes. Various service packs are supposed to prevent new styles of
this type from being created.

Documents that already have these evil styles are a PITA to clean up.
Below are several suggestions that have been posted to the Word
newsgroups. Adapt them as needed, substitute your problem style names,
etc.

Bob S

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One user reports that the problem can be fixed by:
a.    Create a new paragraph style called "junk".
b.    Do a global replacement of "Body Text,Body Text Char Char
Char" with "junk".
c.    Delete the "Body Text,Body Text Char Char Char" style.
d.    Using the Organizer, copy the "Body Text" style from the
template into the document.
e.    Do a global replacement of "junk" with "Body Text".
f.    Review the document, restoring any direct formatting that was
lost. (The only formatting that I observed to be lost was indentation.
Font colors and hidden-text formatting appear to have been preserved.)

Another user reports that exporting to HTML and then converting back
to DOC may help.

In most cases, you can clean the defective styles out of a document by
using the following procedure for each style that has been damaged.
This will not work for damaged heading styles, because Word will not
allow you to delete them.

Create a new temporary style. Use Find and Replace to replace all
occurrences of each defective version of the style with the temporary
style. Delete the style for all the defective versions of the style.
Close and re-open the document. Replace all occurrences of the
temporary style with the real style.

Munango-Keewati has produced the macro below to change all the items
formatted in a bad style back to Normal style and delete the bad
style. This could leave you with a lot of re-formatting to do.

Sub StylesDeleteParaAndChar()
' Find and delete nasty "Paragraph and Character" styles
For Each sty In ActiveDocument.Styles
If ActiveDocument.Styles(sty).Type = wdStyleTypeCharacter Then
   vName = ActiveDocument.Styles(sty)
   vCk = Len(vName) - 4
   If InStrRev(vName, " Char", -1) = vCk Then
       ActiveDocument.Styles(vName).LinkStyle = "Normal"
       ActiveDocument.Styles(vName).Delete
   End If
End If
Next sty
End Sub

In order to get rid of such things without deleting the "true" style,
you need to link the "Char" styles to another, "fake" style you can
delete, using macro code:

Sub DeleteHeading2Char()
   Dim styl As Word.Style, doc As Word.Document
   
   Set doc = ActiveDocument
   Set styl = doc.Styles.Add(Name:="Style1")
   On Error Resume Next
   doc.Styles("Heading 2 Char").LinkStyle = _
    styl
   styl.Delete
End Sub

Cindy Meister

I built a macro to kill the thing, which follows.  The code is aimed
at my particular situation (and at restoring the style to the name
pair I use for Body Text), but it should be adaptable to yours:

Sub ThrashUppityBodyTextStyle()
Dim s As Style
For Each s In ActiveDocument.Styles
 If s.Type = wdStyleTypeParagraph And _
    Left(s.NameLocal, 11) = "Body Text,b" Then
       s.NameLocal = "Body Text,b"
       Exit For
   End If
Next
End Sub

I'm not sure I want to put this in Normal.dot's AutoOpen macro just
yet, so that each doc I open would be checked & exorcised, but that
might be the logical next step.

Mark Tangard

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