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Superscript format lost when converting to pdf

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Abigail - 10 Jun 2004 14:06 GMT
Hi,

I have a document title that has the character ® in
superscript format. I have then inserted this title as
fields throughout my long document. I face two problems:

1. The inserted field does not take the superscript format
of ®, and instead makes it regular sized. To workaround
this, I manually replaced all the occurances of ® to
superscript.

2. However, even after doing that, when i convert the
document to pdf, the result i get is a regular sized ®
with a capital P on either side. It looks like this:
P®P

If any of you have faced this problem, i would truly
appreciate your inputs.

TIA,

Abigail
Larry  Randall - 10 Jun 2004 23:33 GMT
Use [ALT]0153 to input a trademark symbol, and [ALT]0174 to
produce a registered trademark symbol.  Other symbols may
be produced with [ALT]<character code>.  This will input
the correct superscripted character without using superscript.

Larry Randall
Certified Word Expert

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 10 Jun 2004 23:53 GMT
I think you'll find that the symbol Abigail used in her post *is* character
0174 (or 00AE Unicode). Many users prefer it even more inconspicuous,
especially if applied to display-size type.

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Use [ALT]0153 to input a trademark symbol, and [ALT]0174 to
produce a registered trademark symbol.  Other symbols may
be produced with [ALT]<character code>.  This will input
the correct superscripted character without using superscript.

Larry Randall
Certified Word Expert

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>Hi,
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>Abigail
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Klaus Linke - 13 Jun 2004 23:41 GMT
> I think you'll find that the symbol Abigail used in her post *is* character
> 0174 (or 00AE Unicode). Many users prefer it even more inconspicuous,
> especially if applied to display-size type.

And it looks small & supersctipted in some fonts, and large & not
superscripted in others.

I'd try to live with the decision made by the font designer.

Re why superscript formatting is lost when converting to PDF, I have no
idea.
As a work-around, you could try if choosing a smaller font size and raising
the symbol with "Format > Font > Character spacing" works.

Greetings,
Klaus
Robert M. Franz - 14 Jun 2004 12:40 GMT
Hi Klaus

[..]
> And it looks small & supersctipted in some fonts, and large & not
> superscripted in others.
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> Re why superscript formatting is lost when converting to PDF, I have no
> idea.

A font substitution during the process might as well be the candidate here.

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Klaus Linke - 14 Jun 2004 15:31 GMT
Hi Bob,

> > Re why superscript formatting is lost when converting to PDF,
> > I have no idea.

> A font substitution during the process might as well be the candidate here.

What confuses me is that it turns into P?P. I don't know enough about
PostScript to guess where the "P"s are coming from, but I don't think from
Word. Looks more like a bug in the Adobe "printer" driver for PDFs.

Greetings,
Klaus
Robert M. Franz - 15 Jun 2004 14:12 GMT
Hi Klaus

[..]
> What confuses me is that it turns into P®P. I don't know enough about
> PostScript to guess where the "P"s are coming from, but I don't think from
> Word. Looks more like a bug in the Adobe "printer" driver for PDFs.

I'd take it to comp.text.pdf or a PS related group. Just in case the OP
is still lurking ... ;-)

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Tim Murray - 18 Jun 2004 16:12 GMT
> What confuses me is that it turns into P®P. I don't know enough about
> PostScript to guess where the "P"s are coming from, but I don't think from
> Word. Looks more like a bug in the Adobe "printer" driver for PDFs.

What font are you using?
Abigail - 23 Jun 2004 10:23 GMT
Hi,

I'm using Arial font. As mentioned in my initial post, the problem seems to be due to a combination of two factors, the styleref field that I am using and the ® character.

Still haven't found any solution. As a temporary workaround I am de-linking all the fields and manually making the ® superscript, which gives me the intended result for the time-being. However, I'm going the purpose for which the fields are used is lost, as I will have to do a lot of manual work for future releases.

Hope one of you can help me out.

Thanks and regards,
Abigail

> > What confuses me is that it turns into P®P. I don't know enough about
> > PostScript to guess where the "P"s are coming from, but I don't think from
> > Word. Looks more like a bug in the Adobe "printer" driver for PDFs.
>
> What font are you using?
Tim Murray - 27 Jun 2004 02:10 GMT
> I have a document title that has the character ® in
> superscript format. I have then inserted this title as
> fields throughout my long document. I face two problems:

I don't think this was ever addressed: What happens if you do NOT use a
field; if you just type it into regular text?

Also, how are you creating your PDF?
Tim Murray - 27 Jun 2004 02:14 GMT
> I have a document title that has the character ® in
> superscript format. I have then inserted this title as
> fields throughout my long document. I face two problems:

And one other thing: How did you construct the field?
 
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