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Tom Toews - 05 Aug 2004 16:09 GMT
Hi,

Is it possible to do a dictionary type header using the {StyleRef} field
with two different style types applied. I need some entries to be italicized
and others not.

Tom
Robert M. Franz - 08 Aug 2004 10:45 GMT
Hi Tom

> Is it possible to do a dictionary type header using the {StyleRef} field
> with two different style types applied. I need some entries to be italicized
> and others not.

Could you elaborate which entries you want in italics and which not? We
ought to know how *you* determin this before being able to come up with
an "algorithm" for Word.

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Tom Toews - 12 Aug 2004 21:47 GMT
Journal names etc. need to be italicized while most all others do not.

Thanks
Tom

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Robert M. Franz - 13 Aug 2004 10:46 GMT
Hi Tom

> Journal names etc. need to be italicized while most all others do not.

I had a vague idea about formatting that carries over through the
STYLEREF field, but some tests showed that the only thing that does get
transported is -- hidden (which is of no use in this case).

Sorry, I don't see a good way.

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Tom Toews - 13 Aug 2004 14:26 GMT
That's what I was afraid of. I guess I'll either have to do a section break
between every page or else manually create headers on every page. What a
bore. I know it in some ways defeats the idea of a header but I would be
nice to be able to tweak a header from those around it without so much
hassle.

Tom

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 13 Aug 2004 15:39 GMT
This really is a weakness. I think I'll escalate this onto the wish list for
a future version of Word. You wouldn't want to pick up style formatting, but
I would think you would always want to pick up direct formatting.

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> That's what I was afraid of. I guess I'll either have to do a section break
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Tom Toews - 13 Aug 2004 16:50 GMT
Sounds good.

> This really is a weakness. I think I'll escalate this onto the wish list for
> a future version of Word. You wouldn't want to pick up style formatting, but
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Charles Kenyon - 13 Aug 2004 23:13 GMT
I would want to be able to pick up character styles or direct formatting (or
not). I would want to be able to choose, though.
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> a future version of Word. You wouldn't want to pick up style formatting, but
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 13 Aug 2004 23:43 GMT
Agreed. What I suggested was a field-specific switch. The infuriating thing
is that the one type of direct formatting that you *don't* want to pick up
(Hidden) is the only one it does pick up.

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> I would want to be able to pick up character styles or direct formatting (or
> not). I would want to be able to choose, though.
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Bob S - 16 Aug 2004 23:33 GMT
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>Tom

As an exercise, I can think of a couple ways that might do this, but
they are probably a lot more trouble than you want.

Scheme 1:

Tag each entry. Put a single letter in another style (call it JTAG for
example) formatted as 1 point white text next to every occurrence of
your real style (call that Entry for example). The tags next to the
journals should be "J"; the tags next to the other entries should be
something else. In the header put something like this pseudocode:

{IF {styleref JTAG} = "J" "{Styleref "Entry" /*Italic}" "{Styleref
"Entry" }"}

Maintaining the tags would be a nightmare.

Scheme 2:

Get a friend (or pay someone e.g. Dieter Steffmann of Typographer
Mediengestaltung does good stuff) to make a special font that has
italic letters in some of the upper character positions. Use this font
for your Entries and for the STYLEREF fields in the headers. Job done.

You could convert your current text by using a find-and-replace macro
to change normal-Entry to the special font and italic-Entry to the odd
character positions.

The real problem is getting the special font.

There are probably other ways, probably equally unpalatable.

Bob S
 
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