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Aurora - 26 Oct 2004 17:40 GMT
I am using Word 2000

I have a 15 page document.  13 pages are text.  the last 2
pages are the "Table of Contents".  In the header of the
first 13 pages I have "page x of XX" which should end at
page 13.  But it is picking up the last 2 pages and ends
with a count total of 15.  How do I stop it from counting
the last 2 pages?

Aurora
Robert M. Franz - 26 Oct 2004 20:38 GMT
Hi Aurora

> I am using Word 2000
>
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> with a count total of 15.  How do I stop it from counting
> the last 2 pages?

Word is doing as it is told here.

You are in fact using two fields in your header: If you go into your
header and click Alt F9 (Show field codes), you'll see something like this:

{ page } of { numpages }

What you need to do first is insert a section break (of type: next page)
at the end of page 13 (in the main text area). Now, with the cursor in
your new "Section 2", go into the header and footer, and make sure that
"Same as previous" is not ticked. You haven't told us what you want the
header and footer to read in your TOC, now you can insert whatever you
like there. Then, go back into section 1 and change the "numpages" to
"sectionpages". Hit Alt F9 again, and then F9 (update). Voilà!

Greetinx
.bob
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Aurora - 27 Oct 2004 16:00 GMT
Bob:
Thank you for your reply.  This worked because I only had
one section within the area to be included.  But what
would I do if I had several sections - due to margin
changes and/or paper orientation etc.  In Work Perfect,
you could add a code at the bottom of the last page you
wanted to stop counting at.  Does Word not have this
capability?
What would I do if I had a document with 4 sections in it
and wanted to keep the total pages limited to the first 3
sections?

Aurora - Again thanks for your help!

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Aurora
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>Greetinx
>..bob
Robert M. Franz - 27 Oct 2004 16:29 GMT
Hi Aurora

> Thank you for your reply.  This worked because I only had
> one section within the area to be included.  But what
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> wanted to stop counting at.  Does Word not have this
> capability?

Word does not have this particular way to resolve your problem, but some
others.

For a discussion of this side issue, see:

How Word differs from WordPerfect (by John McGhie)
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/WordVsWordPerfect.htm

> What would I do if I had a document with 4 sections in it
> and wanted to keep the total pages limited to the first 3
> sections?

You somehow need to (dynamically) count the pages of the first 3
sections, directly or indirectly. The latter approach seems the best way
to go, namely to subtract the number of pages of the last section from
the number of pages of the total document. [Note: I've never before done
this specific sort of thing, so there might well be an easier method!].

1. You place a SECTIONPAGES field at the end of your last section. You
can later mark it with white text and 1pt font size so that it won't
disturb your pagination at all (hidden text was my first impulse, but
that doesn't seem to work :-().

2. Then select the field, update it (F9), and insert a bookmark there
(Insert | Bookmark).

Then, in one of your previous section(s), you insert the following field:

{ PAGE } of { = { NUMPAGES }-{ REF yourBookmarkName } }

HTH
.bob
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 27 Oct 2004 17:25 GMT
Assuming that the x sections you want counted are paginated continuously,
insert a bookmark on the last page of the part to be counted. Then, instead
of a NumPages field insert a cross-reference to the page number of that
bookmark.

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Bob:
Thank you for your reply.  This worked because I only had
one section within the area to be included.  But what
would I do if I had several sections - due to margin
changes and/or paper orientation etc.  In Work Perfect,
you could add a code at the bottom of the last page you
wanted to stop counting at.  Does Word not have this
capability?
What would I do if I had a document with 4 sections in it
and wanted to keep the total pages limited to the first 3
sections?

Aurora - Again thanks for your help!

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Aurora
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> I have a 15 page document.  13 pages are text.  the
last 2
>> pages are the "Table of Contents".  In the header of
the
>> first 13 pages I have "page x of XX" which should end
at
>> page 13.  But it is picking up the last 2 pages and
ends
>> with a count total of 15.  How do I stop it from
counting
>> the last 2 pages?
>
>Word is doing as it is told here.
>
>You are in fact using two fields in your header: If you
go into your
>header and click Alt F9 (Show field codes), you'll see
something like this:

>{ page } of { numpages }
>
>What you need to do first is insert a section break (of
type: next page)
>at the end of page 13 (in the main text area). Now, with
the cursor in
>your new "Section 2", go into the header and footer, and
make sure that
>"Same as previous" is not ticked. You haven't told us
what you want the
>header and footer to read in your TOC, now you can insert
whatever you
>like there. Then, go back into section 1 and change
the "numpages" to
>"sectionpages". Hit Alt F9 again, and then F9 (update).
Voilà!

>Greetinx
>..bob
Aurora - 27 Oct 2004 19:02 GMT
Thank you Suzanne.  What you said makes sense, But I must
be doing something wrong, because it is not quite working
correctly.  This is what I did.  

I went to the last page of the text I wanted counted which
is page 13. (There is a total of 17 pages now)  After the
text, I entered 6 returns and added a bookmark
called "LastPg".  Then I went to the header, where I
have "Page x of xx".  I deleted the xx code, went to
Insert>Cross Reference and made Ref Type = Bookmark and
Ref To = Page Number and highlighted the one and only
bookmark - LastPg.  I Did not check either box.
and said Insert.  The page number comes up OK but it is
page 14 when it should be page 13.  Any idea of what I did
wrong?

Aurora

>-----Original Message-----
>Assuming that the x sections you want counted are paginated continuously,
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>
>.
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 27 Oct 2004 23:07 GMT
Are you sure all those Enters didn't force the bookmark to the next page?
What was the purpose of adding the empty paragraphs?

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Thank you Suzanne.  What you said makes sense, But I must
be doing something wrong, because it is not quite working
correctly.  This is what I did.

I went to the last page of the text I wanted counted which
is page 13. (There is a total of 17 pages now)  After the
text, I entered 6 returns and added a bookmark
called "LastPg".  Then I went to the header, where I
have "Page x of xx".  I deleted the xx code, went to
Insert>Cross Reference and made Ref Type = Bookmark and
Ref To = Page Number and highlighted the one and only
bookmark - LastPg.  I Did not check either box.
and said Insert.  The page number comes up OK but it is
page 14 when it should be page 13.  Any idea of what I did
wrong?

Aurora

>-----Original Message-----
>Assuming that the x sections you want counted are
paginated continuously,
>insert a bookmark on the last page of the part to be
counted. Then, instead
>of a NumPages field insert a cross-reference to the page
number of that
>bookmark.

to the newsgroup so
>all may benefit.
>
>"Aurora" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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>Bob:
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>
>.
Aurora - 28 Oct 2004 14:03 GMT
Suzanne:
Thank you for your help.  My purpose was to make sure the
bookmark was at the end of the document, in case later on
more information was added towards the end of the
document.  I even added a comment to remind myself that
the line above the comment contained the bookmark for
counting the pages.  The section-page break came after
this.  My screen told me I was still on page 13 at the
bookmark.  

I re-did it today and it worked.  Maybe my confuser
(computer) wasn't in the mood to work right yesterday.  
Who knows.

Thank you again for your help.  You have helped me on many
occassions and I really appreciate it.

Aurora

>-----Original Message-----
>Are you sure all those Enters didn't force the bookmark to the next page?
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>
>.
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Oct 2004 14:20 GMT
Glad you got it working.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Suzanne:
Thank you for your help.  My purpose was to make sure the
bookmark was at the end of the document, in case later on
more information was added towards the end of the
document.  I even added a comment to remind myself that
the line above the comment contained the bookmark for
counting the pages.  The section-page break came after
this.  My screen told me I was still on page 13 at the
bookmark.

I re-did it today and it worked.  Maybe my confuser
(computer) wasn't in the mood to work right yesterday.
Who knows.

Thank you again for your help.  You have helped me on many
occassions and I really appreciate it.

Aurora

>-----Original Message-----
>Are you sure all those Enters didn't force the bookmark
to the next page?
>What was the purpose of adding the empty paragraphs?

to the newsgroup so
>all may benefit.
>
>"Aurora" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:0ffc01c4bc4f$1d9a3460$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>Thank you Suzanne.  What you said makes sense, But I must
[quoted text clipped - 80 lines]
>>what you want the
>>>header and footer to read in your TOC, now you can
insert
>>whatever you
>>>like there. Then, go back into section 1 and change
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>
>.
 
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