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Vijay J. - 04 Nov 2004 17:08 GMT
Is it possible to suppress headers (or footers) on
selected pages (not on the entire section)? Say, the
first page of every section, or any other particular page?
Genine - 04 Nov 2004 17:29 GMT
Not like you could in Wordperfect, No. Word doesn't have the Suppress Footer
option.

You would have to either set up different first page in your section (File >
Page Setup > Layout) or you need to insert a section break before and after
the page where you want the header or footer to be different, switch off the
same as previous options and then insert the required content.

Genine

> Is it possible to suppress headers (or footers) on
> selected pages (not on the entire section)? Say, the
> first page of every section, or any other particular page?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 04 Nov 2004 17:55 GMT
You can have a different first page header/footer in any given section,
however, using the "Different first page" setting on the Layout tab of Page
Setup, and you can also have different odd and even headers and footers. See
http://home.earthlink.net/~wordfaqs/HeaderFooter.htm

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> Not like you could in Wordperfect, No. Word doesn't have the Suppress Footer
> option.
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> > selected pages (not on the entire section)? Say, the
> > first page of every section, or any other particular page?
- 04 Nov 2004 18:17 GMT
Thanks Genine for your reply. I have further observations
and questions:

The option of setting up a different first page in the
section (File >Page Setup > Layout) works for me. I tried
this, and it removed the header successfully from the
first page of the section concerned. The header contains
the Heading 1, which is the name of my chapter (there are
many chapters, each in a different section, in one
document). I suspected it would remove the footer as well
from the page, which contains the page number, and which
I want to retain even on the first page of the section.  
I was surprised to observe that the footer is retained.
This is what I wanted, but can't understand how is it
possible?

Your second suggestion of inserting another section break
after the first page also works. However, I noticed that
when I inserted the section break (Break with new page)
after the last line of the first page, the section break
is not visible even if I select the Show/Hide button,
whereas any such section break in inserted in the middle
of the page can seen by pressing this button. Any ideas
why it is so? The same thing happens to any continuous
section break inserted anywhere in the text, I can't see
it through Show/Hide.

>-----Original Message-----
>Not like you could in Wordperfect, No. Word doesn't have the Suppress Footer
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Stefan Blom - 05 Nov 2004 09:54 GMT
> Thanks Genine for your reply. I have further observations
> and questions:
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> This is what I wanted, but can't understand how is it
> possible?

You can manually delete the page number from your first page footer.
Simply choose View>Header and Footer, and delete the page number. If
you inserted it via Insert>Page Numbers, make sure that you delete the
page number by selecting the little frame around it and press the
Delete key.

> Your second suggestion of inserting another section break
> after the first page also works. However, I noticed that
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> section break inserted anywhere in the text, I can't see
> it through Show/Hide.

Have you tried using Normal view (choose View>Normal) to see the
section break?

> >-----Original Message-----
> >Not like you could in Wordperfect, No. Word doesn't have
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> >>
> >.
Charles Kenyon - 05 Nov 2004 02:08 GMT
If the "different first page" setting for sections doesn't handle what you
want, look into conditional page numbering (except applied to the entire
header).
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm

There is also a page on the MVP FAQ site on numbering front matter that may
be useful.

I'm assuming you are moving from Word Perfect to Word and so here is some
...

General Info on moving from Word Perfect to Word:

Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's
methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these
programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can
easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. If you are unwilling to take
the time to learn to use Word's methods, you should stick to using Word Pad.
You'll have a lot less grief, although you'll miss out on a lot of raw
power.

See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordVsWordPerfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/TipsAndGotchas.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordPerfectConverters.htm
http://businesssoft.about.com/compute/businesssoft/library/blconvert.htm
for information on Word for Word Perfect users.

For more:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart1.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/WordsNumberingExplained.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/WhatTemplatesStore.htm

In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a
special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like
pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this.
Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys()
   Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True
End Sub

Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to
Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/wptoword.html#macroword and can be found
at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas.
This was prepared by Edward Mendelson.

Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing.

Learn about Styles - really learn!
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now
regret every day of those years because although that string was still very
hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important
projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of
organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead
of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful
text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your
work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you
just thought you did.

Finally, in WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text -
boilerplate. In Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and
AutoCorrect, not macros. Follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#AutoText for more
information on these tools.
It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each
day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit
each day.
You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For some
form documents, Word's "online forms" work very well. For more about online
forms, follow the links at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/FillinTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
Chapman's series of articles.

As for converting documents from Word Perfect to use in Word... In a word,
don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term.
They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst
time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic
numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the
following process:
In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as
text files.
Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your
formatting to look.
Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save
this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using
styles, not direct formatting. Save it again.
To use a template within Word, use File => New and pick your template. This
will create a new document for you.

General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create
a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a
good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when
constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing
"metadata" http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm and things like
surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents.

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Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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> Is it possible to suppress headers (or footers) on
> selected pages (not on the entire section)? Say, the
> first page of every section, or any other particular page?
 
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