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First heading appears twice in TOC !

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mscertified - 25 Oct 2005 20:30 GMT
My very first heading (style Heading 2) appears twice in my TOC. It defies
all attempts to fix it. I deleted ity completely, it disappeared from TOC,
reinserted it - it appears twice. Am I seeing things or is this really
happening?
Charles Kenyon - 25 Oct 2005 20:43 GMT
Any chance you have it directly marked for inclusion as well as marked for
inclusion as a heading style? How are you generating your TOC? Could you
type the field code here? (Alt-F9 to display) Which version of Word?
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> My very first heading (style Heading 2) appears twice in my TOC. It defies
> all attempts to fix it. I deleted ity completely, it disappeared from TOC,
> reinserted it - it appears twice. Am I seeing things or is this really
> happening?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 25 Oct 2005 21:00 GMT
Is there a manual page break before the first Heading 2? This will cause the
heading to be repeated. Apply "Page break before" to the paragraph/style
instead.

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> My very first heading (style Heading 2) appears twice in my TOC. It defies
> all attempts to fix it. I deleted ity completely, it disappeared from TOC,
> reinserted it - it appears twice. Am I seeing things or is this really
> happening?
mscertified - 25 Oct 2005 21:24 GMT
That was it! Thanks a lot.
Weird... is that considered a bug?

> Is there a manual page break before the first Heading 2? This will cause the
> heading to be repeated. Apply "Page break before" to the paragraph/style
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> > reinserted it - it appears twice. Am I seeing things or is this really
> > happening?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 25 Oct 2005 22:56 GMT
Not exactly. A manual page break acquires the style of the following
paragraph.

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> That was it! Thanks a lot.
> Weird... is that considered a bug?
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> > > reinserted it - it appears twice. Am I seeing things or is this really
> > > happening?
Charles Kenyon - 25 Oct 2005 23:45 GMT
No, but it is a very good reason for using the "page break before"
formatting in your Heading 1 style.
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> Weird... is that considered a bug?
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Robert M. Franz (RMF) - 26 Oct 2005 18:40 GMT
Hi Charles

> No, but it is a very good reason for using the "page break before"
> formatting in your Heading 1 style.

I agree with the "page break before", but still consider this behaviour
a bug (or a least a bad design decision, if it was a concious decision
at all :-)).

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Charles Kenyon - 27 Oct 2005 06:15 GMT
The thing you need to understand what is happening is that in Word
structure, the page break is not a type of paragraph mark but rather is
inside the following paragraph and a part of it. This isn't logical, but it
is how Word is built.
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Robert M. Franz (RMF) - 27 Oct 2005 17:38 GMT
Hi Charles

> The thing you need to understand what is happening is that in Word
> structure, the page break is not a type of paragraph mark but rather is
> inside the following paragraph and a part of it.

I see that, and that's the main reason why we all advice users to avoid
those breaks (typically, in long documents before Headings). It's still
pretty counter-intuitive why the PageBreak shouldn't be a ParagraphBreak
automatically.

> This isn't logical, but it is how Word is built.

Full ack.

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Robert
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Brian - 07 Feb 2008 00:57 GMT
This constantly drives me nuts.  Why would I want to write a paragraph using
styles after it?  This is really a problem when i edit a big document and
delete a section.  For some retarded reason, Word thinks I want to keep the
format of the section I deleted, not the section above it that I want to keep.
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> The thing you need to understand what is happening is that in Word
> structure, the page break is not a type of paragraph mark but rather is
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Stefan Blom - 07 Feb 2008 10:25 GMT
The issue you are describing is unrelated to the problem with page breaks
discussed earlier in this thread.

The reason why sections behave the way you have noticed is that a section
break stores the formatting of the *preceding* section. When the break is
deleted, the formatting of the next section break is being applied.

See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/WorkWithSections.htm.

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