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Adding Outline Styles to a template

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Jean Pereira - 16 Jan 2006 14:17 GMT
I have added 6 more outline numbered styles to a template which is attached
to all our documents.

Whilst the new styles are visible when creating new docs based using this
template, they are not available when editing previous docs created using the
older version of the same template.  I thought that when you open an existing
doc, the new styles would automatically be available once the template was
updated.

The only way I can get them attached is by going into the organiser and
copying over the styles from the template in the template directory to the
actual doc.  

Is there an alternative way to handle this as there are thousands to
precedents we need to have these new styles available in?

Thanks in advance.
Stefan Blom - 16 Jan 2006 14:31 GMT
For new styles to be added, or old styles to update, from the template
the "Automatically update document styles" option must be checked in
Tools>Templates and Add-Ins, for the relevant documents.

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> I have added 6 more outline numbered styles to a template which is attached
> to all our documents.
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>
> Thanks in advance.
Charles Kenyon - 16 Jan 2006 17:08 GMT
See Robert Franz's response for detailed ideas on how to handle multiple
documents. I am writing just to point out that generally you want to leave
that box to update styles unchecked. Otherwise you will get very strange
results when your documents can't find their attached templates (as in you
change servers or send the document to a different computer). In that case,
they attach to the local normal.dot and update their styles to match that
normal.dot.
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> For new styles to be added, or old styles to update, from the template
> the "Automatically update document styles" option must be checked in
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>> Thanks in advance.
Robert M. Franz (RMF) - 17 Jan 2006 08:27 GMT
Hi Charles

> See Robert Franz's response for detailed ideas on how to handle multiple
> documents.

Which he has deleted (I'm not sure that reflects anywhere else than
here, though) upon reading Stefan's post! :-)

> I am writing just to point out that generally you want to leave
> that box to update styles unchecked. Otherwise you will get very strange
> results when your documents can't find their attached templates (as in you
> change servers or send the document to a different computer). In that case,
> they attach to the local normal.dot and update their styles to match that
> normal.dot.

Indeed, not unchecking the box after the one-time usage is a sure way to
grief later on!

Robert
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Stefan Blom - 19 Jan 2006 11:39 GMT
The problem you are describing should only occur when the attached
template is normal.dot. If a custom template is missing, Word won't
start updating styles from normal.dot. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/sharing/WillMyFormatChange.html.

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> See Robert Franz's response for detailed ideas on how to handle multiple
> documents. I am writing just to point out that generally you want to leave
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> >> Thanks in advance.
Charles Kenyon - 19 Jan 2006 15:35 GMT
This differs from my recollection, but I hadn't tried it recently. I just
checked in Word 2003 and you are correct. Thank you.
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>> >> Thanks in advance.
Robert M. Franz (RMF) - 16 Jan 2006 14:38 GMT
Hi Jean

> I have added 6 more outline numbered styles to a template which is attached
> to all our documents.
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> doc, the new styles would automatically be available once the template was
> updated.

No: once created, a document does not maintain a connection to its
template (except pointing to it for macros, for instance).

> The only way I can get them attached is by going into the organiser and
> copying over the styles from the template in the template directory to the
> actual doc.  
>
> Is there an alternative way to handle this as there are thousands to
> precedents we need to have these new styles available in?

(Most) anything you can do in Word, you can automize through VBA. And
usually automizeable to do on a bunch of files (say, in one folder).

See for instance the following thread:

http://groups.google.ch/group/microsoft.public.word.numbering/browse_frm/thread/
d5474e7c688938cf/8c632c3238df66ae?hl=de#8c632c3238df66ae


and the therein referenced:

How to safely update a document's styles from its template without using
the Organizer (and how to make the Tools + Templates and Add-ins dialog
safe, by Dave Rado, Margaret Aldis, Ian Sharpe and Beth Melton)
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm

And maybe also:

How to Find & ReplaceAll on a batch of documents in the same folder (by
Ibby)
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/MacrosVBA/BatchFR.htm

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Robert
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