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MS Office Forum / Word / Long Documents / April 2006Problems with Equation editor
I'm not sure if this is the best news group for questions re. Word's built-in equation editor. If you know a better forum: please advise! If one has long textual subscripts like (in absence of any layout features in ASCII text let uppercase here be characters in math-style and lower-case be characters Text-style): X = Ylong_subscript_here + Zanother_long_ name_here For some strange reason equation editor tears subscripts, that contain more than 10 characters appart and inserts some long white space after each 10th character, thus yielding very odd looking formulas that look like: X = Ylong_subsc ript_here + Zanother_ot her _name_h ere (Hope I could make myself clear here...) In fact, the textual fragments don't even need to be in sub- or superscript. Some simple tests suggest that any text that is longer than 10 chars is split up into chunks of 10 chars maximum. Any idea, why this is so and how one can prevent texts from being split like this? Michael PS.: Alas, I can't define the text as Math, either, because it contains the sylables "sin" and "det" which are then false "recognized" as sine and determinant. ||-( > I'm not sure if this is the best news group for questions re. Word's > built-in equation editor. If you know a better forum: please advise! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Michael How about using an equation field? They're generally not hard to write unless you have things like nested matrices to describe. Mathematicians and their printers have ensured that 'normal' mathematical text is, in general, easy to write and compose. > ... > How about using an equation field? They're generally not hard to > write unless you have things like nested matrices to describe. > Mathematicians and their printers have ensured that 'normal' > mathematical text is, in general, easy to write and compose. Tried using an equation field but for some reasons it doesn't seem to recognize the misc. keywords that are described in help (\i \su...(), \do...(), etc.) And what's worse: it keeps crashing on me. Whenever I click on the field to edit it Word immediately dies. Too bad that Word is so buggy... Michael This is not normal. Possibly the document is corrupt; possibly the font is corrupt; possibly Normal.dot is corrupt.  SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > > ... > > How about using an equation field? They're generally not hard to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Michael > This is not normal. Possibly the document is corrupt; possibly the > font is > corrupt; possibly Normal.dot is corrupt. Well, maybe, possible. But if I have learned something after all thoese year using word then this: Alas, this *is* normal. Esp. the fact, that word keeps corrupting documents and templates, *is* "normal"! But that's a different story. :-( Michael FWIW, in 14 years of using (almost) every version of Word since Word 2.0, I have *never* had a corrupted Normal.dot. I think I did have a corrupted Data key *once* (another time that I thought that was the problem, it turned out that the problem was actually caused by an add-in). And the only corrupted documents I've ever seen were once I got from others (usually converted from WordPerfect). SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > > This is not normal. Possibly the document is corrupt; possibly the > > font is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Michael Well - lucky you then! I am able to create and edit an equation field in a newly created, empty document, but not in the one, I am currently working on. A I said - I never managed to work on a file over a longer period and have it NOT corrupted. Not that I am doing strange things to it, but occasionally word simply crashes (e.g. when moving images around or editing formulas) and I guess, that then leaves me with recovered and - presumably - corrupted files. Are there any tools to "decorrupt" a file? Because, clearly, starting over is NOT an option! Michael > FWIW, in 14 years of using (almost) every version of Word since Word > 2.0, I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > converted from > WordPerfect). See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. See also http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Well - lucky you then! > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > converted from > > WordPerfect). > See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. See also > http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm Thanks - good stuff! Seems, that I'm not the only one whose docs get corrupted now and then... :-) Michael >> ... >> How about using an equation field? They're generally not hard to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And what's worse: it keeps crashing on me. Whenever I click on the field > to edit it Word immediately dies. Too bad that Word is so buggy... I've had only one problem with equation fields: they are sometimes very sensitive to spaces in the formula. When I'm editing, a missed space sometimes leads the field to collapse into some non-printing state. Expanding it out and finding the spot that's missing its space fixes that. Just why this is, I still don't know. Hi Michael > I'm not sure if this is the best news group for questions re. Word's > built-in equation editor. If you know a better forum: please advise! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > X = Ylong_subsc ript_here + Zanother_ot her _name_h ere > (Hope I could make myself clear here...) Are you positive that the things that get split apart are in text style? For instance, when you type "cosx", EE will split this to "cos x" if it's not in text style (cosinus). HTH Robert Signature/"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS \ / | MVP X Against HTML | for / \ in e-mail & news | Word > ... > Are you positive that the things that get split apart are in text > style? For instance, when you type "cosx", EE will split this to "cos > x" if it's not in text style (cosinus). Yes, I am absolutely positive that they are in text style for exactly that reason. One of the subscripts contained an "sin" amidst the word and so was falsely split, too. So I changed the subscripts to text style. But that tears things appart in the peculiar way decribed, too.. Michael |
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