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Footnotes and Endnotes, dealing with them from older programs in MS Word

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Bill From DegiCank - 02 Jun 2006 22:24 GMT
Anyone have any tips on dealing with footnotes from older programs
where the footnotes are not encoded as footnotes, and easily converting
them to proper footnotes in Word?

Example would be a 50 page document with superscript numbers throughout
that represent reference's, and taking that into word and modifying /
reformatting the document so that the page layout changes, but the
footnotes, go where ever they please.

Does anyone know of any tools that can handle this type of situation?
macropod - 02 Jun 2006 23:47 GMT
Hi Bill,

Below is a macro to process your footnotes *and* retain any formatting (eg
bold/italic/underline).

The macro assumes the footnotes will all be grouped together, and requires
you to select them before running the code.

The macro also assumes you'll be using the "Footnote Text" style footnotes.
If not, you can simply change it in the line:
       .Style = "Footnote Text"

The other important point to note is that, as coded, the macro only works
with single-paragraph footnotes. If you have any multi-paragraph footnotes,
you can get around that issue by changing their internal paragraph markers
to line feeds (i.e. Shift-Enter).

As it runs, the macro shows its progress on the status bar.

Sub ReLinkFootNotes()
Dim i As Integer
Dim j As Integer
Application.ScreenUpdating = False
With Selection
.Bookmarks.Add Range:=Selection.Range, Name:="FootNotes"
j = 0
For i = 1 To .Paragraphs.Count
 If .Paragraphs(i).Range.Words(1) = j + 1 Then
  j = j + 1
 End If
Next i
End With
For i = 1 To j
StatusBar = "Finding Footnote Location: " & i
ActiveDocument.Select
With Selection.Find
.Forward = True
.Font.Superscript = True
.Text = i
.MatchWholeWord = False
.Execute
If .Found = True Then
.Parent.Select
 With Selection
  .Delete
  .Footnotes.Add Range:=Selection.Range, Text:=""
 End With
End If
End With
Next i
With ActiveDocument.Bookmarks("FootNotes").Range
For i = 1 To j
 StatusBar = "Transferring Footnote: " & i
 With .Paragraphs(1).Range
  .Cut
  With ActiveDocument.Footnotes(i).Range
   .Paste
   .Words(1).Delete
   .Characters(.Characters.Count).Delete
   .Style = "Footnote Text"
  End With
 End With
Next i
On Error Resume Next
.Bookmarks("FootNotes").Delete
End With
Application.ScreenUpdating = True
End Sub

How the code works:
. Take the selected range of footnotes and bookmark them.
. Count the number of bookmarked paragraphs with sequential numbers,
starting at '1'.
. Find the corresponding superscripted sequential numbers in the document.
. Turn matched superscripted sequential numbers into empty footnotes.
. Cut the bookmarked footnote paragraphs and paste them into the empty
footnotes.
. Delete the first word (footnote number) and last character (duplicate para
mark) from each footnote and apply the footnote style.
. Delete the bookmark.

Cheers

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macropod
[MVP - Microsoft Word]

> Anyone have any tips on dealing with footnotes from older programs
> where the footnotes are not encoded as footnotes, and easily converting
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>
> Does anyone know of any tools that can handle this type of situation?
Bill From DegiCank - 03 Jun 2006 02:13 GMT
I get a run time error 13 when I try the macro, most likely somthing
I'm doing wrong.

Here's what show's up when I debug:

  If .Paragraphs(i).Range.Words(1) = j + 1 Then

Here's a little more about the project I'm working on if anyone is
intersted.

I get a PDF from this site:
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov
clicking opinions brings you here:
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/Opinions+by+date?OpenView&Start=
1&Count=100&Expand=1.1

For this particular example lets look at this case:
06/01/06    03-56712        J        HYDRICK V DEMORALES
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/A21927B11E3B07C88825717F0076B726
/$file/0356712.pdf?openelement


Long story short I've taken the PDF and converted it to a Word DOC. I'm
putting them both on my homepage for ease of use here:
http://degicank.com/doc/

I figured the best way to go about this is to write a macro which i'm
working on which brings me to this issue. In the macro I'm working I
cannot find the superscript text. For example I want to just find the
superscript 1, delete it and place a reference there for a footnote.
When I try to record the macro it will go after any number and ignores
the superscript effect.

Anyone know how to make a macro that will specifically find a
superscript font?

Sub Macro2()
'
' Macro2 Macro
' Macro recorded 6/2/2006 by William Speers
'
   Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
   With Selection.Find
       .Text = "1"
       .Replacement.Text = ""
       .Forward = True
       .Wrap = wdFindContinue
       .Format = True
       .MatchCase = False
       .MatchWholeWord = False
       .MatchWildcards = False
       .MatchSoundsLike = False
       .MatchAllWordForms = False
   End With
   Selection.Find.Execute
   Selection.Delete Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
   With Selection
       With .FootnoteOptions
           .Location = wdBottomOfPage
           .NumberingRule = wdRestartContinuous
           .StartingNumber = 1
           .NumberStyle = wdNoteNumberStyleArabic
       End With
       .footnotes.Add Range:=Selection.Range, Reference:=""
   End With
   Selection.HomeKey Unit:=wdStory
   Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
   With Selection.Find
       .Text = "2"
       .Replacement.Text = ""
       .Forward = True
       .Wrap = wdFindContinue
       .Format = True
       .MatchCase = False
       .MatchWholeWord = False
       .MatchWildcards = False
       .MatchSoundsLike = False
       .MatchAllWordForms = False
   End With
   Selection.Find.Execute
   Selection.Delete Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
   With Selection
       With .FootnoteOptions
           .Location = wdBottomOfPage
           .NumberingRule = wdRestartContinuous
           .StartingNumber = 1
           .NumberStyle = wdNoteNumberStyleArabic
       End With
       .footnotes.Add Range:=Selection.Range, Reference:=""
   End With
       Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
   With Selection.Find
       .Text = "3"
       .Replacement.Text = ""
       .Forward = True
       .Wrap = wdFindContinue
       .Format = True
       .MatchCase = False
       .MatchWholeWord = False
       .MatchWildcards = False
       .MatchSoundsLike = False
       .MatchAllWordForms = False
   End With
   Selection.Find.Execute
   Selection.Delete Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
   With Selection
       With .FootnoteOptions
           .Location = wdBottomOfPage
           .NumberingRule = wdRestartContinuous
           .StartingNumber = 1
           .NumberStyle = wdNoteNumberStyleArabic
       End With
       .footnotes.Add Range:=Selection.Range, Reference:=""
   End With
   Selection.HomeKey Unit:=wdStory
End Sub
macropod - 03 Jun 2006 02:22 GMT
Hi Bill,

That sounds like your selected footnote range might have a numbered para
with no text or an un-numbered paragraph. I didn't allow for the former and
you'll recall I mentioned the latter, and how to deal with it, in my
previous post.

Cheers

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macropod
[MVP - Microsoft Word]

> I get a run time error 13 when I try the macro, most likely somthing
> I'm doing wrong.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov
> clicking opinions brings you here:

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/Opinions+by+date?OpenView&Start=
1&Count=100&Expand=1.1

> For this particular example lets look at this case:
> 06/01/06 03-56712 J HYDRICK V DEMORALES

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/A21927B11E3B07C88825717F0076B726
/$file/0356712.pdf?openelement


> Long story short I've taken the PDF and converted it to a Word DOC. I'm
> putting them both on my homepage for ease of use here:
[quoted text clipped - 90 lines]
>     Selection.HomeKey Unit:=wdStory
> End Sub
captaingeek - 06 Jun 2006 00:35 GMT
Been banging my head off the wall here trying to figure this out with
no luck.

Macropod, do you have an example paragraph I could run this on?

Anyway, by reading the macro you made I was able to figure out how to
find superscript font's.

With this knowledge, and the rest of your macro I may be able to create
a better macro that will meet our needs.

I will let you know.

Sub Macro1()
'
' Macro1 Macro
' Macro recorded 6/5/2006 by William Speers
'
   Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
   With Selection.Find
       .Text = "1"
       .Replacement.Text = ""
       .Forward = True
       .Font.Superscript = True
       .Format = True
       .MatchCase = False
       .MatchWholeWord = False
       .MatchWildcards = False
       .MatchSoundsLike = False
       .MatchAllWordForms = False
   End With
macropod - 06 Jun 2006 09:47 GMT
Hi Bill,

The code I posted works fine on a document that has the footnotes grouped at
the end and selected, as described in my original post. The document you're
converting from pdf (not a document "with footnotes from older programs" as
you originally described it) already has the footnotes formatted as such at
the bottom of each page.

Finding superscripted text in the document and converting it to a Word
footnote link is trivial, and my code shows you how to do that.

Without selecting the footnote text, getting Word to recognise where the
corresponding footnote for any superscripted body text sits in the document
can be problematic, especially if the footnote continues onto the next page,
as it does with your footnote 3, for example. That's why my code works from
the premise that the footnotes were grouped at the end and selected.

If you can at least:
. put the whole of each footnote together in one paragraph; and
. make sure each footnote has a space separating the footnote number and the
first word of the footnote,
then a few minor modifications to my code should get you under way.

The modifications would be to:
. add a new variable near the top:
  Dim k As Integer
. change the line:
   j = 0
to
   k = Paragraphs(1).Range.Words(1) - 1
   j = k
. change the two lines
  For i = 1 To j
to
  For i = k + 1 To j

With these modifications, the macro will process all footnotes in the
selection starting from whatever number the first selected footnote
paragraph starts with.

Cheers

Signature

macropod
[MVP - Microsoft Word]

> Been banging my head off the wall here trying to figure this out with
> no luck.
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>         .MatchAllWordForms = False
>     End With

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