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Greg Maxey - 19 Nov 2007 23:32 GMT
I have a document with lots of nested bulleted lists.  These lists are
created using List Bullet, List Bullet 2, etc.

I am trying to automate some formatting such that the space before the first
bullet and space after the last bullet is greater than the space between two
adjacent bullets.  I can do that with code as follows:

Sub Test()
Dim oPar As Word.Paragraph
For Each oPar In ActiveDocument.Range.Paragraphs
 If oPar.Style = "List Bullet 2" Then
   If oPar.Previous.Style <> "List Bullet 2" Then oPar.SpaceBefore = 9
   If oPar.Next.Style <> "List Bullet 2" Then
     oPar.SpaceAfter = 9
   Else
     oPar.SpaceAfter = 3
   End If
 End If
Next oPar
End Sub

Is there some way to do this with Style formatting?  I see in the
Format>Paragraph>Indents Lines and Spacing Dialog an option to "Don't add
space between paragraphs of the same sytle" but I do want to add a little
space just not as much space as before and after the bullet group.

Is there a better way?

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DeanH - 20 Nov 2007 15:55 GMT
I totally support this request. The "Don't add space between paragraphs of
the same style" is ok, but as Greg said, I would like some space after within
the same style as well as different for after the same group.
I would prefer not to have a macro as the templates I will be sending out
will be to people who may not be comfortable using such animals, ie sales
staff ;-)

Does anyone have any ideas.
Many thanks
DeanH


> I have a document with lots of nested bulleted lists.  These lists are
> created using List Bullet, List Bullet 2, etc.
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>
> Is there a better way?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 20 Nov 2007 17:47 GMT
I'd like to see this, too. I've used the "Don't add space" setting, but I'm
much more likely to want, say, 3 points between list items and 6 or 12
after.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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> I totally support this request. The "Don't add space between paragraphs of
> the same style" is ok, but as Greg said, I would like some space after within
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> >
> > Is there a better way?
Klaus Linke - 21 Nov 2007 00:07 GMT
One trick I've used is to have a bit of additional space forced by the bullet.

Say you want a big round bullet, you can use a smaller round bullet such as Alt+0149, and give it a larger font size than the text.
That will force a space between the list paragraphs.
You'll likely have to play with the position of the bullet a bit, too (say, lower it a point or two).
If you prefer a square bullet, you can play with U+2584 ("lower half block").

The trick should also work with picture bullets, if you use a picture that is transparent or white at the top.

Klaus

> I'd like to see this, too. I've used the "Don't add space" setting, but I'm
> much more likely to want, say, 3 points between list items and 6 or 12
> after.
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 21 Nov 2007 03:20 GMT
An interesting trick, worth remembering.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

One trick I've used is to have a bit of additional space forced by the
bullet.

Say you want a big round bullet, you can use a smaller round bullet such as
Alt+0149, and give it a larger font size than the text.
That will force a space between the list paragraphs.
You'll likely have to play with the position of the bullet a bit, too (say,
lower it a point or two).
If you prefer a square bullet, you can play with U+2584 ("lower half
block").

The trick should also work with picture bullets, if you use a picture that
is transparent or white at the top.

Klaus

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote:
> I'd like to see this, too. I've used the "Don't add space" setting, but I'm
> much more likely to want, say, 3 points between list items and 6 or 12
> after.
Klaus Linke - 21 Nov 2007 05:37 GMT
Another way would be to forget about "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style", and achieve additional space above and below the list with a white paragraph border. Between list paragraphs, the border is automatically suppressed.
But as you said, it would be better if there'd be a built-in solution.

Klaus

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