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Multiple references to the same footnote ?

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Blue Max - 09 May 2008 02:47 GMT
How do we put multiple references in the body of the text to the same
footnote?  For example, three superscript number "3" 's in different
paragraphs that all refer to the same footnote.  We also want all three
footnote references in the body to be re-numbered (updated) if another
footnote is inserted before the third footnote.  Can this be done?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 09 May 2008 04:11 GMT
Insert | Reference | Cross-reference to Footnote: Footnote number
(formatted).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

> How do we put multiple references in the body of the text to the same
> footnote?  For example, three superscript number "3" 's in different
> paragraphs that all refer to the same footnote.  We also want all three
> footnote references in the body to be re-numbered (updated) if another
> footnote is inserted before the third footnote.  Can this be done?
Blue Max - 09 May 2008 23:04 GMT
Thank you, Suzanne, this appears to be exactly what we needed.  However, we
cannot get the cross-reference numbers to update after inserting a new
footnote.  We can right-click and update each one independently, but how do
we force all the cross-references to update?  Shouldn't this happen
automatically and immediately by default?

Thanks,

Richard

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> Insert | Reference | Cross-reference to Footnote: Footnote number
> (formatted).
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>> footnote references in the body to be re-numbered (updated) if another
>> footnote is inserted before the third footnote.  Can this be done?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 10 May 2008 00:06 GMT
Cross-references unfortunately don't update automatically but should update
when you print, switch to Print Preview, or update fields generally.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

> Thank you, Suzanne, this appears to be exactly what we needed.  However,
> we cannot get the cross-reference numbers to update after inserting a new
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>>> footnote references in the body to be re-numbered (updated) if another
>>> footnote is inserted before the third footnote.  Can this be done?
Blue Max - 14 May 2008 16:12 GMT
Thank you for the instruction on how this feature works.  We have used
wordprocessors that also provide a feature that will update or refresh all
the cross-references upon request by the user.  For example, the user can
refresh all references in Corel Wordperfect by selecting a menu option to
'generate' the cross references.  In our opinion, this is an extremely
effective approach to making sure the references are functioning correctly
and displaying the proper information.

Thanks,

Richard

> Cross-references unfortunately don't update automatically but should
> update when you print, switch to Print Preview, or update fields
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>>>> footnote references in the body to be re-numbered (updated) if another
>>>> footnote is inserted before the third footnote.  Can this be done?
PeterMcC - 14 May 2008 16:31 GMT
Blue Max wrote in
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> Thank you for the instruction on how this feature works.  We have used
> wordprocessors that also provide a feature that will update or
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> references are functioning correctly and displaying the proper
> information.

Will "Update fields" not do that?

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Blue Max - 01 Oct 2008 23:58 GMT
Thank you, Peter.  You are very likely correct.  As a new user, I am not
familiar with this feature.  Where is it found in Word 2007?

Thanks,
Richard

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> Will "Update fields" not do that?
Graham Mayor - 15 May 2008 06:37 GMT
The sample update macro at http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm added
to a toolbar button is a simple way of updating the fields in a document.

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> Thank you for the instruction on how this feature works.  We have used
> wordprocessors that also provide a feature that will update or
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>>>>> re-numbered (updated) if another footnote is inserted before the
>>>>> third footnote.  Can this be done?
Blue Max - 01 Oct 2008 23:56 GMT
Thank you for the hint, Graham.

Richard

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> The sample update macro at http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm 
> added to a toolbar button is a simple way of updating the fields in a
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>>>>>> re-numbered (updated) if another footnote is inserted before the
>>>>>> third footnote.  Can this be done?
Peter A - 09 May 2008 14:29 GMT
> How do we put multiple references in the body of the text to the same
> footnote?  For example, three superscript number "3" 's in different
> paragraphs that all refer to the same footnote.  We also want all three
> footnote references in the body to be re-numbered (updated) if another
> footnote is inserted before the third footnote.  Can this be done?

Insert the first footnote as usual, then use a bookmark to reference the
superscripted number in the other locations.

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Blue Max - 09 May 2008 23:12 GMT
Thanks, Peter, what advantages might bookmarks have over cross-referencing?

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>> How do we put multiple references in the body of the text to the same
>> footnote?  For example, three superscript number "3" 's in different
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> Insert the first footnote as usual, then use a bookmark to reference the
> superscripted number in the other locations.
Peter A - 10 May 2008 14:37 GMT
> Thanks, Peter, what advantages might bookmarks have over cross-referencing?
>
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> > Insert the first footnote as usual, then use a bookmark to reference the
> > superscripted number in the other locations.

Same thing - you use a cross reference to refer to a bookmark.

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Author, MS Word for Medical and Technical Writers
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 10 May 2008 16:46 GMT
The important point here, however, being that footnotes already have
built-in bookmarks (they're listed separately in the cross-reference
dialog), so that you don't have to actually bookmark them.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

>> Thanks, Peter, what advantages might bookmarks have over
>> cross-referencing?
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>
> Same thing - you use a cross reference to refer to a bookmark.
 
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