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MS Office Forum / Word / Long Documents / October 2003copyright/trademark symbol
Does the copyright/trademark go at the top or bottom of the last word? > Does the copyright/trademark go at the top or > bottom of the last word? Don't know whether there is a rule, but I guess it's customary to typeset them full size, not supersripted in front of some text: Microsoft Word 6 (C) 1989-1994 Microsoft Corporation. and smaller, superscripted right after a copyrighted/trademarked word: Windows(R)98, Palm(TM) handheld, ... In some fonts, some or all these symbols appear superscripted, and not in others. Regards, Klaus That's my observation as well. I vacillate according to what "looks right" to me in a given case (or font). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word)  SignatureWords into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > > Does the copyright/trademark go at the top or > > bottom of the last word? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Regards, > Klaus >> Does the copyright/trademark go at the top or >> bottom of the last word? If you are in the U.S., there are customary ways to affix the "notice of copyright" and "notice of trademark" symbols. Sometimes, the notices can affect your legal rights in the material, so this issue is not as trivial as some believe. > Don't know whether there is a rule, but I guess it's customary to > typeset them full size, not supersripted in front of some text: > Microsoft Word 6 > (C) 1989-1994 Microsoft Corporation. The U.S. Copyright Office discusses the rules for affixing notice of copyright here: http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ03.html That document says that only the c-in-a-circle symbol, "Copyright" and "Copr." are acceptable as notices of copyright. I think I recall seeing in the copyright regulations that (C) or (c) are also acceptable, but I cannot find it at the moment. I would take USCO's word over my hazy memory. > and smaller, superscripted right after a copyrighted/trademarked > word: Windows(R)98, Palm(TM) handheld, ... The U.S. Patent & Trademark Office summarizes the guidelines for when to use TM and SM here: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/tmfaq.htm#Basic007 ...and when to use ? here: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/tmfaq.htm#Basic008 As for placement and formatting: The ? symbol is usually inserted immediately after (to the right of) textual marks. A professor once told me that (R) is an acceptable alternative, but I never verified this. For pictorial marks incorporated into documents, I usually see the same placement as for textual marks. For pictorial marks affixed to physical objects, I have seen the symbol placed adjacent to the picture on all different sides. I could not find anything on the PTO's web site describing the formatting for TM and SM. When you say "superscripted," you are probably referring to the character ? (unicode U+2122 or Alt+0153). There is a similar character for SM, but I cannot find it right now. SignatureDTM :<| "When in alt.rome do as the alt.romans do." - Burroughs Guy, on the merits of rec.spank-the-newbie Interesting material, but it answers a question that was not asked. The question was simply, when using the © character, should you superscript it? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) SignatureWords into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > >> Does the copyright/trademark go at the top or > >> bottom of the last word? [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > "When in alt.rome do as the alt.romans do." > - Burroughs Guy, on the merits of rec.spank-the-newbie > Interesting material, but it answers a question that was not > asked. The question was simply, when using the ? character, should > you superscript it? No, it is not superscripted. SignatureDTM :<| "When in alt.rome do as the alt.romans do." - Burroughs Guy, on the merits of rec.spank-the-newbie > If you are in the U.S., there are customary ways to affix the "notice > of copyright" and "notice of trademark" symbols. Sometimes, the > notices can affect your legal rights in the material, so this issue is > not as trivial as some believe. Hope I won't be held responsible for any legal consequences of my reply ;-) > The U.S. Copyright Office discusses the rules for affixing notice of > copyright here: > http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ03.html > > That document says that only the c-in-a-circle symbol, "Copyright" and > "Copr." are acceptable as notices of copyright. You often see both (as in Word2000's "About" notice: "Copyright (c) 1983-1999 Microsoft Corporation"). Seems pretty ugly and redundant to me, but perhaps it does have legal implications. > I could not find anything on the PTO's web site describing the > formatting for TM and SM. When you say "superscripted," you are > probably referring to the character ™ (unicode U+2122 or Alt+0153). As I said, in some fonts they are superscripted by default, and in other fonts they aren't. > There is a similar character for SM, but I cannot find it right now. It's U+2120 in Unicode, but since most fonts don't have that character, it may be easier to use a superscripted "SM". Greetings, Klaus |
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