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In Word 2002/XP Extreme Difficulty Getting Varying Headings to Work

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AA Smith - 29 Oct 2003 22:10 GMT
I have used Word in various versions since 1991.  Until now, I have not had
too much trouble getting Word to apply headings the way I need them.  Today,
however, I cannot get varying Headers & Footers to work the way it seems
they should.

The first several pages of this document do not need Headers & Footers, so,
I made them all part of Section 1.

Section 2 is a Foreword that requires the heading on the first page in 18pt
type, all following pages in that section require headings in 14pt type.

Section 3 is the main body of a book, which (on the first page of this
section ONLY) requires a multi-line Header, including a title in 20pt type
with the rest in 14pt type.  All pages following the first in this section 3
require a one-line header in 14pt type.

If there's a way to get this to work right in Word 2002/XP, I have yet to
find it.

When I get headers & footers set to work for section 2 (specifying "This
Section" on the Page Setup dialogue that I popped up from the Header-Footer
toolbar along with checking "Different First Page," the text I enter in the
second and all succeeding pages of Section 2 wipes out the text I entered
for the Different First Page of Section 2.

In Section 3, I specified Different First Page and I selected "This Point
Forward" in Apply To" on the Page Setup dialogue that I popped up from the
Header-Footer toolbar.  The heading I entered for the first page of Section
3 wipes out all of the headings I entered for Section 2.  The headings I
entered for the second and all succeeding pages of section 3 wiped out the
heading I had entered for the first page of Section 3.  It also wiped out
all pf the headings I had entered for Section 2.

How can I get Word2002/XP to let me set headings up totally different for
each section and get Different First Page to work right?

I shall greatly appreciate your help with this most frustrating problem.
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With kindest regards,

Dick Smith

Dayo Mitchell - 29 Oct 2003 23:08 GMT
You need to unlink your headers.  With the H/F toolbar open, click the "Same
as Previous" icon (you should see that is is already shaded and on, clicking
should turn it off).  Repeat for each section.  (Eventually, I think I'm
going to request a Section Format dialog that let you set defaults for this
and other features, please send along your own if you think it's a good
idea....)

I don't *think* you need to bother with "This point forward" in Page Setup.

Hope that helps,

DM

> I have used Word in various versions since 1991.  Until now, I have not had
> too much trouble getting Word to apply headings the way I need them.  Today,
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> I shall greatly appreciate your help with this most frustrating problem.
AA Smith - 04 Nov 2003 00:28 GMT
Thanks, DM!  I'll make the revisions accordingly.  I apreciate youur
feedback.
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With kindest regards,

Dick Smith

> You need to unlink your headers.  With the H/F toolbar open, click the "Same
> as Previous" icon (you should see that is is already shaded and on, clicking
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> > I shall greatly appreciate your help with this most frustrating problem.
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 29 Oct 2003 23:27 GMT
I think you are confusing headings and headers. Enabling both "Different
first page" and "Different odd and even" will allow you to have up to three
headers/footers in a given section. Following Dayo's advice will allow you
to make all these headers/footers different in every section. Note that
"Same as Previous" applies only to like headers/footers. For example, you
can unlink a First Page Header from the First Page Header in the previous
section while leaving the Odd Page Header and Even Page Header the same (if
you have used StyleRefs to pick up document text, this is the practical
thing to do). But if, as I suspect, you are placing headings in your
headers, you're going to be mightily disappointed when it comes time to
generate your TOC, since it will not pick up headings in the header or
footer.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
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> I have used Word in various versions since 1991.  Until now, I have not had
> too much trouble getting Word to apply headings the way I need them.  Today,
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> Dick Smith
AA Smith - 04 Nov 2003 00:32 GMT
Thanks, Suzannne!

Sorry for any confusion my explanation may have caused.  Actually, I am not
trying to put headings in the Header/Footer area.  I do know the difference.
I think between your generous help here and DM's suggestions, I shall be
able to solve my Header/Footer problem section by section.  Thanks, again, I
really appreciate your feedback.
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With kindest regards,

Dick Smith

> I think you are confusing headings and headers. Enabling both "Different
> first page" and "Different odd and even" will allow you to have up to three
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