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Luvsql - 11 Jun 2007 21:48 GMT

We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus mark
the option to always include the country field. I can do this on a new mail
merge, then update all labels, however, I need to save these settings, so
that the user printing the labels does not have to re-map the fields etc. As
well, we wanted to save the specific label size and margin settings, so we
need to save as a template.

When we use the saved template, the field mappings are back to the default
and the country is not marked. If I right-click on the first one, I can
re-map and mark to print the country, however, it only applies to the first
label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
remaining hundred or so labels?

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Peter Jamieson - 12 Jun 2007 04:03 GMT

If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources and
you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before saving
it as a template, you will lose any mappings you have set up (it doesn't
really matter how you unlink the data source).

So yes, you do have to recreate the mappings when you attach a new data
source. You may be able to simplify that by using a VBA macro, but only
after the data source has been attached - in other words, you couldn't put
the macro code in an AutoOpen macro unless that also opened the data source.

However, I don't experience the same problem as you when I create a new
document based on a template. Yes, I have to go into the mappings again, but
the ADDRESSBLOCK field is still set up to include the country. Are you sure
it is changing? (the option is stored as a \c 1 switch in the field and I
don't see any reason that it would change)..

Further, the mappings are independent of any individual field, so once you
have edited the first ADDRESSBLOCK field, the others should apply the
mapping also. It's possible that when you are previewing the change isn't
immediately apparent.

i.e., I don't think you should need to propagate. But if I am wrong and you
do need to do that, you need to ensure that the document is set to be a
label type merge. If you unlinked the data source before saving the
doc/template, you probably turned it into "Not a merge document". However,
if you enable the mail merge toolbar, use the first button to seelect the
label type merge, cancel out of the label dialog, then save the document, it
should be saved as a label type merge and the Propagate option should be
available.

Wish it was simpler. You can of course avoid ADDRESSBLOCK altogether and use
individual merge fields nested within the necessary IF fields, and avoid
mapping altogether.

Peter Jamieson

> We are using CRM and need to link certain fields in a mail merge, plus
> mark
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> label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> remaining hundred or so labels?

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Luvsql - 12 Jun 2007 13:36 GMT

It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL Server.

I am positive that the country setting is not marked. How do you add a
switch to this window?

I am positive that it is not applying it to the other fields as only the
first label shows the country. If I go back, then right-click to edit and
mark the country for the second label, it then prints the country. I don't
want to have to do this for 2500 labels.

> If you need the users to be able to connect to different data sources and
> you are therefore unlinking the data source from the document before saving
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> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> > remaining hundred or so labels?

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Peter Jamieson - 12 Jun 2007 16:17 GMT

OK, /here/, if I
a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
b. connect to a SQL Server data source
c. insert an ADDRESSBLOCK field in label 1 set to "Always include the
country/region in the address" and map one of the fields to something
different from the thing that Word automatically mapped it to
d. propagate fields
e. save as a .dot

then when I create a new document based on the template, the mappings are
still there, the country is still there, and the main problem is that the
same address appears in each label until you either do the merge or move
records in preview (e.g. using the Mail Merge toolbar).

In other words, it seems to work more or less as you might hope.

So what could be different?...
When you open the template, or create a new document based on the template,
is the data source attached? And is the type set to Labels? If not, you
won't be able to propagate anyway.

<<

> How do you add a
> switch to this window?

Assuming you are selecting the "Always include the country/region in the
address" option in the Addressblock setup/edit dialog box, if you use Alt-F9
to view the Addressblock field code, you should see something along the
general lines of

{ ADDRESSBLOCK \f "various name and address specification pseudo-fields with
<< >> around them" \c 1 \d } and perhaps other stuff such as \e "United
States of America"

If you can't see all of the text in the field because the table cell is too
small, you can copy/paste the field into a new document and have a look at
the field code in there.

While trying to get to the bottom of this, it might be easier to use a
"Letter type" merge document where you can inspect the ADDRESSBLOCK code
more easily than you can in a Label cell.

NB, if the country flag is wrong in all the ADDRESSBLOCK fields, I would
expect to have to re-propagate after fixing the problem in label 1. But I
wouldn't expect to have to re-propagate if my mappings were wrong.

Peter Jamieson

> It is not different data sources. It is always CRM, which is SQL Server.
>
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>> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
>> > remaining hundred or so labels?

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Luvsql - 12 Jun 2007 17:05 GMT

If I open the template on its own (after word giving me an error because I am
not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM), I am
not able to right-click on the addressblock to see if the fields are still
mapped or if the country flag is marked (needs datasource to do that).

I tried a merge just with Outlook contacts and it seems to retain this info.
I guess it looks like CRM is overriding this information on the template.

> OK, /here/, if I
> a/ create a Label Mail Merge Document,
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> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?

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Peter Jamieson - 12 Jun 2007 17:13 GMT

> after word giving me an error because I am
> not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM

OK, this seems to be the origin of at least some of the problems. If the
source is disconnected, you will lose those mappings. When you reconnect to
the source, what do you choose? Is it a .odc that connects to a SQL Server
file or are you choosing a text file of some kind exported by CRM? (I don't
have a copy of the CRM stuff here)

Peter Jamieson

> If I open the template on its own (after word giving me an error because I
> am
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>> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
>> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?

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Luvsql - 12 Jun 2007 18:40 GMT

Actually we start in CRM, then open the template document and the fields get
updated by the selection criteria in CRM.

> > after word giving me an error because I am
> > not connected to my datasource which is generated directly out of CRM
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> >> >> > label and there is no update all labels. How do I apply this to the
> >> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?

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Peter Jamieson - 12 Jun 2007 18:57 GMT

> Actually we start in CRM, then open the template document and the fields
> get
> updated by the selection criteria in CRM.

To be honest, that doesn't tell me a whole lot about how the template is
actually working.

My guess is that merging from CRM is similar to initiating a merge from
Outlook, i.e.
a. CRM gets the data it wants
b. CRM creates a temporary file
c. CRM automates your template to connect it to the temporary data file
d. CRM leaves you with the mail merge main document open.

Does that sound about right?

If so, you will still definitely get the problem with the mappings, and it
may be difficult to fix that.

I've only had brushes with CRM and the impression I have is that it doesn't
make it easy to do the automation necessary to overcome this kind of
problem - e.g. there's no way to pick selected records from /some/ of the
dialogs and do your own automation to pick the necessary data from its
database and shove it out to a data file with a /fixed/ name that a Word
document can then pick up and use. My guess is that you may have to find a
less convenient way to produce what you need in this instance.

Peter Jamieson

> Actually we start in CRM, then open the template document and the fields
> get
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>> >> >> > remaining hundred or so labels?

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