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mail merge and outlook, wants me to select data source
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Suz - 20 Nov 2004 00:19 GMT When I select Outlooks Contacts, screen jumps to select data source instead of showing the names, Why.
Doug Robbins - 20 Nov 2004 00:31 GMT You will have more control and choices if you initiate the mailmerge from Outlook.
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Hope this helps, Doug Robbins - Word MVP
> When I select Outlooks Contacts, screen jumps to select data source > instead > of showing the names, Why. Suz - 20 Nov 2004 02:57 GMT I tried Outlook, it say's a required file Schdmapi.dll could not be loaded-reinstall word......? I had to uninstall xp 2 and reinstall could that be causing problems ?
> You will have more control and choices if you initiate the mailmerge from > Outlook. > > > When I select Outlooks Contacts, screen jumps to select data source > > instead > > of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 20 Nov 2004 09:02 GMT Schdmapi.dll is a required file with Word 2003 if you wish to connect to Outlook data from the mail merge toolbar command 'MailMerge Use Address Book'. Problem is that this file does not appear to be included with Office 2003, because Office 2003 uses a different default means of connection to its data. If you have an older version of Office (Office 2000) kicking around, you could copy this file from the install disc to the Windows\System32 folder and the error message will go away. The error should not occur if you start the merge from within Outlook - see http://www.gmayor.com/mailmerge_from_outlook.htm
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> I tried Outlook, it say's a required file Schdmapi.dll could not be > loaded-reinstall word......? I had to uninstall xp 2 and reinstall [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> instead >>> of showing the names, Why. Suz - 20 Nov 2004 13:57 GMT That is where I am getting that error, through Outlook 2003.
> Schdmapi.dll is a required file with Word 2003 if you wish to connect to > Outlook data from the mail merge toolbar command 'MailMerge Use Address [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >>> instead > >>> of showing the names, Why. Brossyg - 20 Nov 2004 22:56 GMT In fact, I have the same problem...Word Mail Merge promps for Data Links when I try to point to an Outlook Address book for as mailmerge.
I have two computers, Dell installed Office 2003 (Mail Merge works fine initialed from Word with Outlok Address Book) and another computer which is an upgrade to Office 2003, which doesn't work (asks for Data Link properties). Niether computer has a "schdmapi.dll" file.
What should I do to fix it?
> That is where I am getting that error, through Outlook 2003. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > >>> instead > > >>> of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 21 Nov 2004 07:17 GMT I don't think this is the same problem - yours would appear to be that you have confirm conversion at open checked in tools > options > general.
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> In fact, I have the same problem...Word Mail Merge promps for Data > Links when [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >>>>>> source instead >>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 21 Nov 2004 07:18 GMT If you don't have access to the dll, contact me via my web site.
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> That is where I am getting that error, through Outlook 2003. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>>> source instead >>>>> of showing the names, Why. Suz - 21 Nov 2004 14:15 GMT I pulled the schdmapi.dll off of Office 2000 That I had. Put it in the System32 folder, was not sure if it belonged in a specific folder or not ? But it did fix the mail merge from Outlook 2003 to Word 2003. I still can not use Word 2003 mail merge from which would be my preference. As the previous writer stated in word 2003 once you tell mail merge to use outlook as your soure, Then a data source screen pops up. It's a box with 4 tabs on it, The first being the provider from which it defalts to micro jet 4 , and then wants you to fill in the data source, so what is it looking for to continue to connect to Word 2003. What is this data source ? It defaults to assess files. If I tell it .pst , where my file is kept in outlook. Then it tells me it cannot recognise it. Engine failure, So I guess I do not know what the name of the data source is that it wants ? or I do not have some settings right. Gee, I used to really like this program. Thankyou very much for the .dll idea, I was able to create my labels, but am I able to get my word 2003 mail merge working ?
> If you don't have access to the dll, contact me via my web site. > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >>>>> source instead > >>>>> of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 21 Nov 2004 17:32 GMT Can you e-mail a screen shot of the pop-up screen to my web site link so I can see what you are talking about? I don't know why you would want to merge Outlook data from Word, when Outlook provides acces not only to all the fields but allows you to select which records you want to merge.
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> I pulled the schdmapi.dll off of Office 2000 That I had. Put it in the > System32 folder, was not sure if it belonged in a specific folder or [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >>>>>>> source instead >>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Suz - 21 Nov 2004 21:37 GMT I am sorry Mr. Mayor I do not know how to e-mail you a screen shot of the pop up screen. I can only tell you the steps I take to get where I am stopped. In Word 2003, I go to Mail merge, select recipients, select outlook contacts, my folders come up, I choose Business contacts: Then instead of continuing and letting me choose who I want to make labels for, up pops this Data Link Properties Box, and it is asking for a data base name, under the conection tab. After already telling it to use Outlook Contacts, why would it ask me for the database name. ? I am confused, boy this used to be more simple and I loved this feature in word. Besides when I put in the file name of my outlooks .pst it will not take it.
> Can you e-mail a screen shot of the pop-up screen to my web site link so I > can see what you are talking about? [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > >>>>>>> source instead > >>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 22 Nov 2004 08:24 GMT With the warning message on screen. Press ALT+PRTSCR That will copy the message to the clipboard. Paste that message into an empty Word document and send that to me. If you have tools > options > general > confirm conversion at open checked, you should get a dialog box headed 'Confirm data source'. That data source required is 'Outlook Address Book via converter (*.olk)' If you select that option and schdmapi.dll is not present, you will get an error message. If you open Outlook to the business contacts page and from the tools menu select mail merge, you should be able to merge without this limitation - see http://www.gmayor.com/mailmerge_from_outlook.htm If neither works, then frankly I am baffled, but it would be worth exploring this further in the Outlook newsgroup and to this end I have cross posted the message to the Outlook group.
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> I am sorry Mr. Mayor I do not know how to e-mail you a screen shot of > the pop up screen. I can only tell you the steps I take to get where [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >>>>>>>>> source instead >>>>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Suz - 23 Nov 2004 15:33 GMT Mr. Mayor, I tried sending you the screen through your web site, but do not believe you received it. Could you please give me your e-mail address....Thankx Suz
> With the warning message on screen. Press ALT+PRTSCR > That will copy the message to the clipboard. [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > >>>>>>>>> source instead > >>>>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 23 Nov 2004 16:14 GMT I got the e-mail and have replied to you. Unfortunately it doesn't cast much more light on the subject as I have never previously seen this screen. I was rather hoping that Peter's contribution may have moved the debate forwards.
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> Mr. Mayor, I tried sending you the screen through your web site, but > do not believe you received it. Could you please give me your e-mail [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] >>>>>>>>>>> source instead >>>>>>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Suz - 24 Nov 2004 05:15 GMT Well Mr. Mayor, it seems I had a bad file. On the Outlook Icon, Right Click, Choose Properties, Up pops a Mail Setup Screen. There is a Data Files Tab. It appears I had 3 data files listed(.pst) Two were bad. Got rid of those so there was only one left. With to many files listed in this Data Files Tab, I don't think Word(2003) knew where to go. That was why the other screen that you had never seen before came up. It was looking for the right answer. Mail merge out of Word(2003) works like a champ now. Thankyou for your efforts. I have learned a lot of new things, I did not realize that I could mail merge from so many different programs. I hope this solution works for some of the others on this board. Happy Hoildays to All.
> I got the e-mail and have replied to you. Unfortunately it doesn't cast much > more light on the subject as I have never previously seen this screen. I was [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > >>>>>>>>>>> source instead > >>>>>>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Graham Mayor - 24 Nov 2004 08:04 GMT That's a relief :)
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> Well Mr. Mayor, it seems I had a bad file. On the Outlook Icon, > Right Click, Choose Properties, Up pops a Mail Setup Screen. There [quoted text clipped - 166 lines] >>>>>>>>>>>>> data source instead >>>>>>>>>>>>> of showing the names, Why. Peter Jamieson - 22 Nov 2004 18:13 GMT This is unlikely to help as it is background explanation rather than a suggested fix, but...
When you use this option, Word is using a very complicated mechanism to access your Outlook data. Word tries to connect using a thing called the Jet OLEDB provider. In turn , that needs to use a thing called an Outlook (or Exchange) IISAM which uses a thing called MAPI to get data out of Outlook. In order to do that, the IISAM creates a new Jet (i.e. Access) database, typically in your Temp directory. Usually Jet databases have extension ".mdb" but in this case I think they are called ".dat" - certainly something other than .mdb.
The trouble is that all that complication means that the process can break down for all sorts of reasons, e.g. a. the OLEDB provider is not present (unlikely if you have a full version of Office) or is the wrong version b. the IISAM is not present (unlikely if you have done a full install of Office) c. there is something wrong with the MAPI configuration d. there is some problem accessing your Temp directory
...and so on...
Depending on what is causing this system to fail, you may see different things. In this case, it sounds as if Word is failing to connect via OLEDB and is popping up the OLEDB provider set-up dialog box. At this point, my experience suggests that nothing you enter into those dialogs is likely to help you connect.
My suggestions are: a. get used to initiating from Outlook. If you have managed to make that work, you are probably better off than the people who cannot make either method work. b. check that nothing is preventing Word from creating files in your temp folder (it is unlikely that there is a problem there unless you are working in a network environment, particularly a Terminal Server environment. c. consider finding, downloading and installing the latest version of the MDAC (data access software) and Jet from the microsoft web site. Unfortunately, that is not quite as easy as it used to be either.
Peter Jamieson
>I pulled the schdmapi.dll off of Office 2000 That I had. Put it in the > System32 folder, was not sure if it belonged in a specific folder or not ? [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >> >>>>> source instead >> >>>>> of showing the names, Why.
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