This is not necessary in Word, which has built-in keyboard shortcuts for
accented letters.
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> I wrote a nifty little macro (IVC Accents for the Microsoft Office
> Suite) for the French and Spanish professors at the college that I work
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Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> This is not necessary in Word, which has built-in keyboard shortcut
> for accented letters.>
*Of course it isn't necessary*; however, it does make typing accent
easier and faster by not having to take your fingers out of the typin
position. You also don't have to remember all the alt or crt
combinations. You only need to remember "/", "<", ">", and ".". Yo
don't need shortcuts with IVC Accents!
Example: /u. would give you ?, /?/ would give you ?
Go ahead...be brave, try it, and learn something new today. I'
confident that once you try it you will see the advantages of IV
Accents. I understand that you are advocating shortcuts, *IVC Accent
just extends capabilities of Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access
Outlook, etc. without the clunky shortcuts*.
Click here for IVC Accents
www.brawleywebdesign.com/ComputerRoomPages/IVCaccents.shtm
C. Michae
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 06 Feb 2004 04:56 GMT
This is absolute nonsense! How does typing Ctrl or Alt "take your fingers
out of the typing position"? Those of use who type all day for a living are
quite accustomed to using the *entire* keyboard. And why would we want to
have to memorize senseless shortcuts (which might otherwise occur in running
text) when there are already shortcuts built in. Moreover, if we wanted to
use these shortcuts, why would we not merely create AutoCorrect entries for
them instead of potentially corrupting or destabilizing Word with one more
add-in?
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> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> > This is not necessary in Word, which has built-in keyboard shortcuts
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C. Michael - 06 Feb 2004 07:02 GMT
You're right Suzanne, this is nonsense. You obviously do not want to
learn anything new or find an easier way to do something. If you had
looked at IVC Accents you would have found out that the macro does in
fact utilize the autocorrect function! There is no -corrupting or
destabilizing-. What IVC Accents does, by using the macro function, is
exactly what the macro function is there for.
You are not the only person to spend the day at a keyboard! Holding
down the crtl+alt+e is not all that easy, especially for a student, or
non-expert typist. To say nothing about trying to remember all the
combinations. At each computer station in my lab at Imperial Valley
College I have list of your keystrokes and the keystrokes for IVC
Accents. Guess which ones the most of the students use. -It's not your
shortcuts-.
In the future, I would advise you to not tell people that something
isn't necessary when you don't know the facts. The least you should do
is not say anything at all until you do know those facts. You should
try IVC Accents before you make a judgement and tell people that it
isn't necessary.
It's nice that you have an MVP award, and I enjoyed reading your short
bio which says:
Specialties: General Word use through user interface (no VBA)
I work with MS Office every day (for the last 9 years) tutoring
students and professors, so I guess that makes me an expert too. I also
program in COBOL, Visual Basic, Visual C++, and a few others.
Let people decide on their own what is necessary when somebody makes a
suggestion that they try something new. Your way is not the only way,
and may not be the best way.
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> [B]This is absolute nonsense! How does typing Ctrl or Alt "take your
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C. Michael
Dayo Mitchell - 06 Feb 2004 15:20 GMT
The knowledge and effort you demonstrated by creating an add-in is certainly
impressive, and if you were willing to put in the time and effort helping
others on the newsgroups, no doubt MS would reward you with MVP status as
well.
May I ask you to consider one possibility, however?
Perhaps, especially when teaching beginners, it would be more useful for
them to learn a way of inserting accents that they can take to all computers
and all versions of Word, and often even other programs?
Even if this is not the easiest way, it may be the most efficient and the
most helpful for the students in the long run, especially because retraining
the fingers is very difficult.
DM
> You're right Suzanne, this is nonsense. You obviously do not want to
> learn anything new or find an easier way to do something. If you had
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C. Michael - 06 Feb 2004 21:04 GMT
Dayo Mitchell wrote:May I ask you to consider one
> possibility, however?
Thank you for the for your praise.
As always the choice is up to the student (or user). We do not force
the students to use IVC Accents we just offer it as an alternative. If
they decide to use IVC Accents, it is available, via download, so they
can install the macro on their home computer.
IVC Accents was not intended for the globe trotting Word user. Even so,
it does fit on a 3 1/2" floppy and can be installed on grandma's
computer in Poedunck,Texas when your go to visit her (assuming you
don't take your laptop, which has IVC Accents installed).
This thread did get a little out of hand, and I do apologize for my
part in it. IVC Accents was a lot of work. We worked on finding the
easiest to remember keystrokes while at the same time trying to have
minimal finger movement. The whole process took about two months, and
after many trials we arrived at the final product. Suzanne made me a
little mad when she just discounted it as -corrupting or destabilizing-
without even looking at it, or considering that it may be a good
alternative for others.
I have been using Word for a long time and I am constantly learning new
"stuff". Yes I do still get stumped once in a while, but when I do I
pick up my copy of Microsoft Office XP Inside and Out. It's published
by Microsoft Press and usually sends me in the right direction.
Still...sometimes it helps to think outside the box!
C. Michael