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MS Office Forum / Word / Menus and Toolbars / April 2005Can one eliminate English (US) from Word?
Word 2003 keeps switching from my default language, English (UK), to Englsih (US). I mentioned this problem last year, but despite having made all the recommended changes for this problem by Suzanne - at http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm - Word 2003 still occasionally changes to English (US) from the default English (UK). I only notice this when doing AutoCorrect entries, and find they do not work because the default language has switched to English (US), or when Spell Check is 'misspelling' certain words. It is a real wind-up when I realize that the many Autocorrect enteries I've imputted that day are not available to English (UK) because Word has a mind of its own (seems to be an American mind!). I also notice that although in both XP and in the Office Language Settings the only language that should be available to me is English (UK), in Word under TOOLS | LANGUAGE | SET LANGUAGE | MARK SELECTED TEXT LANGUAGE, English (US) is still available with English (UK). As I've only selected English (UK) to be available in both XP and Word, why is English (US) available at all? How can I completely eliminate English (US) so that it is completely unavailable? Is there something I can do in the registry? I've looked in HKEY_Current_User | Software | Microsoft | Office | 11.0 | Language Resources, and under 1003 (English [US]) the Value data is 'ExplicitOff', and under 2057 (English [UK]) the Value data is 'On'. Given this, how can it change of its own? Is there a key stroke that I might accidently make that can make this change? Thanks, Robert It is possibly being switched by text from third parties eg web sites. Check that tools > language > set language > automatically detect language is unselected and that the automatically update parameter is not selected in the format > style dialog. Note that Word 2003 has a nasty habit of changing some of your preferences all by itself. Where this is a problem the user preferences need to be reinforced by autonew and autoopen macros. Add the following code to each of an autonew and an autoopen macro in normal.dot so that each document will at least start with the required settings: Selection.LanguageID = wdEnglishUK Application.CheckLanguage = False http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm  Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Word 2003 keeps switching from my default language, English (UK), to > Englsih (US). I mentioned this problem last year, but despite having [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Robert I've checked the TOOLS | Language | ... Detect Language Automatically box is not ticked, but with Format | Styles and Formatting, all that happens is a pane opens on the righthand side which just lists Footer, Heading 1, Heading 2 etc. Can't see anything to select? I have never used a macro before, but I've printed out the info on 'Idiot's Guide to Installing Macros' from your webpage - so I'll give it a try!!! Thanks, Robert > It is possibly being switched by text from third parties eg web sites. Check > that tools > language > set language > automatically detect language is [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > > Robert Select Normal in the style list. Right click and select 'modify'. If you have any difficulty with the macros mail me via the link on my web site. Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > I've checked the TOOLS | Language | ... Detect Language Automatically > box is not ticked, but with Format | Styles and Formatting, all that [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] >>> >>> Robert Thanks. The Update parameter is not selected, so it can't be this. I'll get back to you on the macro! Suzanne mentioned that it might be switching when I paste from another doc, or as you mentioned, from the web, etc. so I'm also waiting to see if this is the cause. Thanks, Robert > Select Normal in the style list. Right click and select 'modify'. > If you have any difficulty with the macros mail me via the link on my web [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > >>> > >>> Robert The macros will at least reset it when you open another document. Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Thanks. The Update parameter is not selected, so it can't be this. > I'll get back to you on the macro! Suzanne mentioned that it might [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Robert Caught in the act! This morning, working on a new doc (checked that all was English (UK) first), by the second para Word had changed to English (US) without me leaving the doc or pasting anything in. I only noticed when an AutoCorrect entry did not work (it did in the previous para). So it is Word having its own innate 'American bias' that is the problem. It seems that the only solutions are to make a macro (which I have never done), or switch to a less 'biased' word processor (if there an alternative left!). However, this is clearly a Microsoft problem that as far as I'm aware did not exist in previous versions I've used (all versions from Word 2). Perhaps an alternative would be to go back to Word 2000 until Microsoft sort this out. Thanks, Robert > The macros will at least reset it when you open another document. > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > >>>>> > >>>>> Robert While I appreciate that it is a problem, it is not an inherent problem in Word 2003, but something peculiar to your installation. If this was a formatted autocorrect then check what the formatting of the autocorrect is. Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Caught in the act! This morning, working on a new doc (checked that > all was English (UK) first), by the second para Word had changed to [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert When the AutoCorrect entry did not work, I initially checked TOOLS | LANGUAGE | SET LANGUAGE and found that it had changed to English (US). Then I checked the TOOLS | AUTOCORREECT OPTIONS, and that too was switched to English (US). I've always checked both when this has happened, sometimes the AuotCorrect first, and they are always in sync (sometimes I've checked both when everything seems OK just to make sure they are both the same). It seems to me that when one changes, so too does the other. The one thing I have not eliminted is that some key stokes I use are making this switch. I use quite a lot of shortcut keys (using Symbol to set them) to select special characters I need, which all involved ALT plus some other character. For example ALT+s gives me an 's' with an acute accent over it, or ALT+t gives me a 't' with a dot under it. So I sometimes wonder if my sloppy typing is the cause of this language shift, but so far I haven't managed to re-create it. I suppose the logical option would be to re-format my HDD and load eveerthing back on and see if this problem persists. But ... Thanks, Robert > While I appreciate that it is a problem, it is not an inherent problem in > Word 2003, but something peculiar to your installation. If this was a [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Robert If you inadvertently created a formatted AutoCorrect entry or an AutoText entry while the language at the insertion point was English (US), then the entry will be tagged with that language. When you insert the entry, the language at the insertion point (and thereafter) will be changed. You need to scrutinize all your AutoText and formatted AutoCorrect entries and make sure that they are tagged as English (UK). Just to clarify, ordinary AutoCorrect entries are saved in specific .acl files depending on language and are available to all Office programs that use AutoCorrect. But formatted AutoCorrect entries are saved in Normal.dot, and their language is part of their formatting. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > When the AutoCorrect entry did not work, I initially checked TOOLS | LANGUAGE > | SET LANGUAGE and found that it had changed to English (US). Then I checked [quoted text clipped - 143 lines] > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Robert I'm not sure what 'tagged as English' means or what to look for! But from the gist of what you are saying, I understand that if I make an AutoCorrect entry when, without knowing it, I'm in English (US), when I use that entry when in in English (UK), from that point of entry I will be switched to English (US) without my knowing it. So what I've done is go into English (US), then AutoCorrect Options, and in AutoCorrect deleted all my AutoCorrect entries, 95% of which I'm sure were set in English (UK). And my fears were affirmed when I switched back to English (UK) - ALL my AutoCorrect entries were missing! So I'll have to type in around 70 'new' entries. But not all my entries were missing: what is odd is that those AutoCorrect entries I put in the English (UK) that were in PLAIN TEXT were not deleted, only those that were inserted in FORMATTED TEXT. Also, these entries inserted in PLAIN TEXT English (UK) did not appear in the AutoCorrect window when in English (US), and I have just verified this by creating such PLAIN TEXT entries in English (US) and switched to English (UK) and once agian these entries do not show up in the English (UK) AutoCorrect window. Then I inserted some entries in FORMATTED TEXT, and whether they were inserted in English UK or US, they could be seen in both the English US and UK AutoCorrect windows. Is this what you are getting at with these *.acl files being separate (and not saved in Normal.dot), and formatted files being saved in Normal.dot? Yet if the FORMATTED TEXT entries were inserted in English (UK) they would not work in English (US), and vice versa, even though they did appear in the AutoCorrect window where in English UK or US. Not did attempting this ever change the language setting - they just did not work. More confused than ever! Thanks, Robert > If you inadvertently created a formatted AutoCorrect entry or an AutoText > entry while the language at the insertion point was English (US), then the [quoted text clipped - 165 lines] > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Robert You've strayed into an area where I'm really not knowledgeable. What you should be seeing is that when the text at the insertion point is English (US), then the AutoCorrect entries displayed should be the ones in the US English .acl file, and the same for English (UK). I would think that all the formatted ones would always be displayed, regardless of language, but I haven't tested this. I'll work on this a bit this afternoon and see what I can figure out. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > I'm not sure what 'tagged as English' means or what to look for! But from > the gist of what you are saying, I understand that if I make an AutoCorrect [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > > > > English (US) without me leaving the doc or pasting anything in. I > > > > > only noticed when an AutoCorrect entry did not work (it did in the > > > > > previous para). So it is Word having its own innate 'American bias' > > > > > that is the problem. It seems that the only solutions are to make a [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Robert Thanks for your help, Suzanne. I am learning a few things here! Cheers, Robert > You've strayed into an area where I'm really not knowledgeable. What you > should be seeing is that when the text at the insertion point is English [quoted text clipped - 273 lines] > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Robert Okay, I did some testing, and this is what I found: 1. The list of AutoCorrect entries shown in the Tools | AutoCorrect Options dialog varies with the language at the insertion point, as I would have expected. 2. Formatted AutoCorrect entries created in any language show up regardless of the language at the insertion point. I tested this by creating one formatted AutoCorrect entry in English (US) and one in French (France). Both are in the list whether the language at the insertion point is English or French. 3. If you manage to get such an entry into the text you *cannot* change its language formatting. As you have noted, however, the AutoCorrect entries in the "wrong" language don't work. Moreover, I found that after some experimentation, I was getting the wrong AutoCorrect entries inserted even in their correct language. 4. The situation with AutoText is different. All AutoText entries, in any language, show up in the AutoText dialog, and you get an AutoComplete suggestion regardless of the language at the insertion point. 5. If I insert a French AutoText entry into English text and then continue typing, the language formatting of the following text will continue to be French. But it *is* possible to change the language assigned to the text inserted via AutoText. All of which seems to suggest that AutoText might be more of a likely hazard than AutoCorrect with regard to changing the language at the insertion point. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Thanks for your help, Suzanne. I am learning a few things here! > [quoted text clipped - 235 lines] > > > > > > >>>>>>> despite having made all the recommended changes for this > > > > > > >>>>>>> problem by Suzanne - at http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm - > > Word > > > > > > >>>>>>> 2003 still occasionally changes to English (US) from the [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Robert Thanks for this. Until now I had no idea about Auto Text. In fact, I was thinking it might be a safer option! But I suppose that as I'm having to re-insert all my AutoCorrect entries from scratch (or even use Auto Text instead), if they are all entered when I'm in English (UK), then there should be no more mysterious switching to English (US). So let's see. Another possible option would be to insert all my AutoCorrect entries in Plain Text, then they will only be available and viewed in the language they were inserted. I only put them in Formatted Text as being Sanskrit terms it is more 'correct' to put them in italics. But this is a dying practice these days! Thanks, Robert > Okay, I did some testing, and this is what I found: > [quoted text clipped - 382 lines] > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Robert Hi =?Utf-8?B?U2FnYXJh?=, > But not all > my entries were missing: what is odd is that those AutoCorrect entries I put > in the English (UK) that were in PLAIN TEXT were not deleted, only those that > were inserted in FORMATTED TEXT. These types of entries are stored in two different places: the plain text ones in *.acl files, where they can be shared among Office applications; the formatted ones in Normal.dot The formatted ones will contain language formatting as part of their content; the plain text ones will not. As to your problem with languages switching, has anyone pointed you to the article in the Tips section of my website that describes in detail how Word handles language formatting? You need to read that through carefully, checking each setting in the various places in Windows, and then in Word. If you've done this, and are still seeing the problem 1. Is it in existing documents, only? 2. Is it also in new documents? It's important to realize that, in most versions of Word, once you get "messed up languages" in the document structure it's difficult to impossible to get them out. You have to start with a solid basis in order to have any stability. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) > > (Robert said): But not all > > my entries were missing: what is odd is that those AutoCorrect entries I put [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The formatted ones will contain language formatting as part of their content; > the plain text ones will not. Yes, Suzanne mentioned this, which does point to the formatted entries I made in both English US (without knowing it) and UK as a probable source of this problem. > As to your problem with languages switching, has anyone pointed you to the > article in the Tips section of my website that describes in detail how Word > handles language formatting? You need to read that through carefully, checking > each setting in the various places in Windows, and then in Word. Yes, I printed this out last month and went through it (twice) set by step. The result was no change. > If you've done this, and are still seeing the problem > 1. Is it in existing documents, only? > 2. Is it also in new documents? Initially in existing docs, but also in newly created docs into which nothing was pasted, but some AutoCorrect entries were made. IN the last doc it switched languages during the second para! I was certain it was some 'bad' keystokes on my part, but no one seems to think that keyboard entries can switch languages. The small window on the bottom bar that told me what language I was in disappeared after I made all the recommended changes in Tips article. > It's important to realize that, in most versions of Word, once you get "messed > up languages" in the document structure it's difficult to impossible to get them > out. You have to start with a solid basis in order to have any stability. The last time this language switch happened was in a new doc and I checked the language before I started. But by the second para it had changed - I noticed as a Formatted AutoCorrect entry did not work, so I immediately looked and found that the language had changed from UK to US. One thing I did not mention is that when I installed XP and Office on my Thinkpad four months ago, I did use a macro from the MVP site that saved one's AutoCorrect entries so as to transfer them from my old laptop to this new one. Thanks, Robert (I must admit that I noticed IBM's Lotus Smartsuite version 9.8 going on ebay very cheaply, and I am tempted!) Hi =?Utf-8?B?U2FnYXJh?=, > IN the last doc > it switched languages during the second para! I was certain it was some > 'bad' keystokes on my part, but no one seems to think that keyboard entries > can switch languages. What about the Shift+Alt Windows default to switch any languages you have activated? Which languages do you have listed in the Windows Control Panel's regional options? Which languages do you have enabled in the Office Language Tools? Finally, if you start Word in Safe Mode (hold down the Ctrl key when starting it), does the problem still show up? (Note: you will NOT have your formatted AutoCorrect entries available) Finally, if you have (or can create) a small document (mimimal text) then File/Save As to the XML file format, you should be able to open that in Notepad. Copy the entire Notepad contents and paste it into your reply (at the very end would be best). I might be able to see something in there... My suspicion as to the most likely cause is that your Normal.dot is "mixed up". If working in Safe Mode does not exhibit the behavior, that would confirm this. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) > What about the Shift+Alt Windows default to switch any languages you have > activated? This has no effect. Language remains English (UK). > Which languages do you have listed in the Windows Control Panel's regional > options? Only English (UK). Same with Keyboard. > Which languages do you have enabled in the Office Language Tools? Only English (UK) I think I may have solved it. I used to MVP macro to recreate all my previous AutoCorrect entries, printed out the doc where they are all these listed, and went through each one in Word typing in the abbreviations and noticing that they all worked. I then went through each one and checked the language tag, and found of the 80 entries, 5 were in English (US), the rest being as expected, English (UK). So this means that somehow I had unkowingly switched to English (US) - perhaps through pasting something in - and unkowningly created AutoCorrect entries (Formatted) in English (US). Then, later, in another doc, when I use that AutoCorrect entry the doc switches to Englsh (US)! Someone said that an AutoCorrect entry made in English (UK) should not work in English (UK), and vice vesa, but as I have just typed in 5 AutoCorrect entries when I am in English (UK) they worked and switched the doc to English (US), and when I entered the next AutoCorrect entry which was created in English (UK) it worked and switched Word back to English (UK). So the AutoCorrect entries made in one language will switch to that Language even if one is in another language. But should this happen? Or is this happening because, as you say below, my Normal.dot got messed up somewhere (perhaps using the MVP macro to transfer AutoCorrect Entries)? > Finally, if you have (or can create) a small document (mimimal text) then > File/Save As to the XML file format, you should be able to open that in > Notepad. Copy the entire Notepad contents and paste it into your reply (at the > very end would be best). I might be able to see something in there... 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w:val="off"/><w:i/></w:rPr><w:t>Kli¿ýa-manas</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>, </w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b/><w:i/></w:rPr><w:t>Manas</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b/></w:rPr><w:t>, </w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b/><w:i/></w:rPr><w:t>Mano-</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b/><w:b-cs w:val="off"/><w:i/></w:rPr><w:t>vijñÿna</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b/><w:b-cs w:val="off"/></w:rPr><w:t>, etc.</w:t></w:r><w:r><w:rPr><w:b-cs w:val="off"/></w:rPr><w:t> </w:t></w:r></w:p><w:p><w:pPr><w:spacing w:after="100" w:line="260" w:line-rule="at-least"/></w:pPr><w:r><w:rPr><w:b-cs w:val="off"/></w:rPr><w:t>[Lusthaus from Routledge Encycl of Philo] Yogÿcÿrins responded by rearranging the tripartite structure of the mental level of the eighteen dhÿtus into three novel types of consciousnesses. Manovijñÿna (empirical consciousness) became the sixth consciousness (and operated as the sixth sense organ, which previously had been the role of manas), surveying the cognitive content of the five senses as well as mental objects. Manas became the seventh consciousness, redefined as primarily obsessed with various aspects and notions of self and thus called ‘defiled manas’ (kli¿ýamanas).</w:t></w:r></w:p><w:p><w:pPr><w:spacing w:after="100" w:line="260" w:line-rule="at-least"/></w:pPr><w:r><w:t> </w:t></w:r></w:p><w:sectPr><w:pgSz w:w="11909" w:h="16834" w:code="9"/><w:pgMar w:top="1440" w:right="1800" w:bottom="1440" w:left="1800" w:header="720" w:footer="720" w:gutter="0"/><w:cols w:space="708"/><w:noEndnote/><w:docGrid w:line-pitch="299"/></w:sectPr></wx:sect></w:body></w:wordDocument> > My suspicion as to the most likely cause is that your Normal.dot is "mixed > up". If working in Safe Mode does not exhibit the behavior, that would confirm [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or > reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) Hi =?Utf-8?B?U2FnYXJh?=, > I think I may have solved it. I used to MVP macro to recreate all my > previous AutoCorrect entries, printed out the doc where they are all these [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > entered the next AutoCorrect entry which was created in English (UK) it > worked and switched Word back to English (UK). This is a possibility... You might work for a couple of days and see if things really have settled down. I had a bit of a shock when I saw the XML :-) Lots of stuff in there I'm not accustomed to seeing. I don't see what I expected to see, if a "bad" language is embedded in the file structure, so I'd think the problem is NOT intrinsic in your Normal.dot (IOW, wouldn't crop up on its own when you start a new document). I do see the following in the definition of the Normal style, which is perfectly normal (no pun intended): <w:lang w:val="EN-GB" w:fareast="EN-US" But it could potentially do what you've been seeing IF, at some point, you ever switch to Asian/right-to-left. It could also crop up if you save to RTF or under other, odd circumstances. If the problem persists, we could try - saving Normal.dot as an XML file - opening the XML file and changing EN-US above to EN-GB - save, close - open in Word, then save as a Word template (NormalNew.dot) - Close Word - rename the original Normal.dot (so that you don't lose it) - rename NormalNew.dot to Normal.dot - test and see how you get along Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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