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rooster - 31 Aug 2006 02:57 GMT A few days ago, something happened to my Office Word app. It is probable that I futzed with a setting without realizing what I was doing. I am rather new to this application.
I can’t change font types or size from the default setting when I select alternative choices. When I probe the parts I tried to change with the cursor, the desired style and size appear nominated in the little windows, but the page itself remains unchanged. It used to be I could enter any font style and size I wanted and that is what I got.
Did I disable this feature somehow?
Happy trails,
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Bob Buckland ?:-) - 31 Aug 2006 09:27 GMT Hi Rooster,
If you check the View menu, what view are you in? If you're in draft mode in Normal view you may see this but print preview or using Print Layout view should normally show things correctly if you have a printer selected in File=>Print other than 'generic/text'.
======== A few days ago, something happened to my Office Word app. It is probable that I futzed with a setting without realizing what I was doing. I am rather new to this application.
I can’t change font types or size from the default setting when I select alternative choices. When I probe the parts I tried to change with the cursor, the desired style and size appear nominated in the little windows, but the page itself remains unchanged. It used to be I could enter any font style and size I wanted and that is what I got.
Did I disable this feature somehow?
Happy trails, >>
 Signature I hope this helped you,
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rooster - 31 Aug 2006 13:40 GMT Hi Bob:
Boy; does it ever help me. Esp the links that you so graciously appended.
Before I get to the literature and to answer you first Q:
“check the View menu, what view are you in?” When I click the View Menu, The “Normal” line is selected and that’s what appears to be nominated in the little window on the left of the Font Style and Font Size option windows.
“If you're in draft mode…”
I can’t locate the term “Draft Mode” anywhere in any of the menu items in the application. I see: Normal Web Reading Outline Markup
In the little window on the left of the word “Show” I have the menu: Final Final Showing Markup Original Original Showing Markup
“Print Layout View” doesn’t seem to be a term used anywhere in this version either. Am I using a different version? This is MOW 2003.
Happy trails,
rooster
Bob Buckland ?:-) wrote:
> Hi Rooster, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Happy trails, >> Bob Buckland ?:-) - 31 Aug 2006 14:08 GMT Hi Rooster,
The 'draft' choice for the Normal view is actually in Tools=>Options=>View ([x] Draft font) checkbox When that is active then the font displayed on the screen doesn't change to match your formatting.
Missing Print Layout view is a bit unusual. On the bottom of the Word document screen there should be five icons for switching views as well. Usually Print Layout view is the center one. If it's also not there then you could have an add-in interfering with Word or a damaged Word installation.
Try starting Word while holding down the control key to see if that changes things.
======= Hi Bob:
Boy; does it ever help me. Esp the links that you so graciously appended.
Before I get to the literature and to answer you first Q:
“check the View menu, what view are you in?” When I click the View Menu, The “Normal” line is selected and that’s what appears to be nominated in the little window on the left of the Font Style and Font Size option windows.
“If you're in draft mode…”
I can’t locate the term “Draft Mode” anywhere in any of the menu items in the application. I see: Normal Web Reading Outline Markup
In the little window on the left of the word “Show” I have the menu: Final Final Showing Markup Original Original Showing Markup
“Print Layout View” doesn’t seem to be a term used anywhere in this version either. Am I using a different version? This is MOW 2003.
Happy trails,
rooster >>
 Signature Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 31 Aug 2006 14:45 GMT To restore Print Layout to the View menu, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/RestoreMenuCmd.htm
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"Bob Buckland ?:-)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote
> Hi Rooster, > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > rooster >> rooster - 31 Aug 2006 17:09 GMT Bob;
>>”The 'draft' choice for the Normal view is actually in >>Tools=>Options=>View ([x] >>Draft font) checkbox… When that is active >>then the font displayed on the screen >>doesn't change to match your >>formatting.” Under the “O” …75…Bingo! My fonts are flying again. I don’t remember changing that checkbox setting; …but then, if I didn’t get bills in the mail I probably wouldn’t remember my name; either
>> “Print Layout view” I see it now. Is that the same thing as “Print Preview” icon; the 6th from the Left in the Toolbar at the top? I don’t have a printer as yet, so these functions are new to me.
Is the literature review you so graciously provided applicable to MOW 2003 as well as 2007? I really appreciate learning of this resource and I really want to thank you for your help.
If you care to venture a bit further; I've been using Nvu 1.0 as my text editor for publishing, but I am finding it rather twitchy in some respects. I have difficulty keeping it's font sizes consistent from one para to the next. There are always subtle but noticeable increases and decreases in size which I can't seem to control and which get passed on to the publishers. This is especially frustrating when transcribing (copy/paste) from WOW (which I prefer greatly over Nvu for preparing originals) into Nvu. Some (many) editors won't accept WOW.
My question is, are you aware of a text editor that is more compatible with WOW?
Happy trails,
rooster
Bob Buckland ?:-) wrote:
> Hi Rooster, > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > rooster >> Suzanne S. Barnhill - 31 Aug 2006 20:16 GMT No, Print Preview is different from Print Layout view. Print Layout is what used to be called Page Layout view. Do you have the horizontal scroll bar displayed? If not, go to Tools | Options | View and check the box for it. At the left end of the scroll bar are buttons for (in order) Normal, Web Layout, Print Layout, Outline, and Reading Layout views.
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> Bob; > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > > > rooster >> rooster - 31 Aug 2006 21:55 GMT Suzanne;
It’s nice to hear from you.
>>"Do you have the horizontal scroll bar >>displayed?" Is “horizontal scroll bar” the term used for what I tried to describe earlier in: …“6th [button] from the Left in the Toolbar at the top?” If so, then yes I have it.
I think you’ll agree that I would benefit greatly from doing a literature review starting with the ‘biblio’ Bob appended eartlier. Perhaps when I get through that, I’ll have a better handle on the application.
I was able to restore the font functionality, so I should be able to proceed apace for the nonce.
Thank you very much.
Happy trails, rooster
> No, Print Preview is different from Print Layout view. Print Layout is what > used to be called Page Layout view. Do you have the horizontal scroll bar > displayed? If not, go to Tools | Options | View and check the box for it. At > the left end of the scroll bar are buttons for (in order) Normal, Web > Layout, Print Layout, Outline, and Reading Layout views. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 31 Aug 2006 22:15 GMT No, the button you are describing is on the Standard toolbar, which is at the top of the window. The horizontal scroll bar is a horizontal scroll bar, and it is at the bottom of the window, above the status bar, and it has the icons I described on the left end. Did you check to see whether the box for it was checked on the View tab of Tools | Options?
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> Suzanne; > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > the left end of the scroll bar are buttons for (in order) Normal, Web > > Layout, Print Layout, Outline, and Reading Layout views. rooster - 01 Sep 2006 07:42 GMT Suzanne;
Ah so! I was just a bit confused because I had never had the “Status Bar” line showing before. I have a lot to learn about the program and the terminology that pertains. I’ve penciled in a block of time on Monday to dig into the material Bob mentioned.
Yes, I did have the “Horizontal Scroll Bar” checked and it does appear in the bottom window frame. It is/was set at “Normal”. I had assumed the HSB was a redundancy option vis. the [View] dropdown Menu at the top of the page which also has V => “Print Layout”. I’m not running a printer on this PC, so I hadn't the need to explore settings related to that task before.
Thanks again. We're all glad y'all were spared the worst from "Ernesto". After "Katrina", everybody in your 'neck-a-the' must be reaching for gum boots and paddles at the mere mention of the word "hurricane"; eh?
Happy trails,
rooster boundary bay, bc
> No, the button you are describing is on the Standard toolbar, which is at > the top of the window. The horizontal scroll bar is a horizontal scroll bar, > and it is at the bottom of the window, above the status bar, and it has the > icons I described on the left end. Did you check to see whether the box for > it was checked on the View tab of Tools | Options? Suzanne S. Barnhill - 01 Sep 2006 17:36 GMT FWIW, most people work in Print Layout view because it is the most WYSIWG of the views (aside from Print Preview). I'm unusual, I think, in preferring Normal view for most tasks, though I've found that I now sometimes appreciate Print Layout view with the "white space" between pages suppressed so that I get a continuous flow of text along with all the layout, graphics, etc.
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> Suzanne; > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > icons I described on the left end. Did you check to see whether the box for > > it was checked on the View tab of Tools | Options? rooster - 02 Sep 2006 01:51 GMT Suzanne;
Thanks again.
Each option seems to change several variables. It will take me some time to see what works best. I tried the Print Layout View. Like you say; the page breaks don’t satisfy … in the composition phase; anyway.
I’m reluctant to risk over-extending the priveledge of this ng by going a bit off the thread’s topic, especially because I will probably find the answer when I do my homework properly next week. But, if it isn’t too outré; where do I find the settings to manipulate and affix the page width. I figured out how to work the Tab setting (realize; I worked with an IBM “Selectric” for decades), but whatever I do to move the pointer/grey space, I don’t seem to be able to get consistent results, or ones that stick. I’ve managed to hit on it accidentally a couple of times, but then I do a couple of pieces and it seems to reset to a default position and I can’t remember how to return it.
> FWIW, most people work in Print Layout view because it is the most WYSIWG of > the views (aside from Print Preview). I'm unusual, I think, in preferring > Normal view for most tasks, though I've found that I now sometimes > appreciate Print Layout view with the "white space" between pages suppressed > so that I get a continuous flow of text along with all the layout, graphics, > etc. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 02 Sep 2006 03:48 GMT I think you're asking about the margin width, like setting the margins on a typewriter? You do that in File | Page Setup. I worked with a Selectric for more years than I like to remember before upgrading to a Wheelwriter, so I know where you're coming from. You might want to look at these two "beginner" articles:
Getting started in Microsoft Word http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/GettingStarted.htm
Basic Concepts of Microsoft Word http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/concepts/introduction/index.html
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> Suzanne; > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > so that I get a continuous flow of text along with all the layout, graphics, > > etc. rooster - 02 Sep 2006 04:09 GMT Suzanne;
Again, thanks.
It looks like I’ll be a busy boy on Monday.
I miss my secretary. I knew I should have married her. Trouble was; she ‘did’ understand me.
Happy trails,
rooster
> I think you're asking about the margin width, like setting the margins on a > typewriter? You do that in File | Page Setup. I worked with a Selectric for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Basic Concepts of Microsoft Word > http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/concepts/introduction/index.html Suzanne S. Barnhill - 02 Sep 2006 05:24 GMT <g> If she grew up with Selectrics, too, you probably couldn't have counted on her understanding Word.
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> Suzanne; > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Basic Concepts of Microsoft Word > > http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/concepts/introduction/index.html rooster - 02 Sep 2006 16:43 GMT > Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: >> <g> If she grew up with Selectrics, too, you probably couldn't have counted >> on her understanding Word. Oh, she knew; and a deal more besides. She hadn’t used the spinning ball since ’83 when we got all the girls Word Processors. I lost track of how many h’ware and s’ware upgrades we made between then and ’04 when we both retired. Like most business in my field, we (she) used Word Perfect almost exclusively. What I waggishly intended to convey was, she was the Châtelaine of secretaries for the firm and I trusted her completely to handle anything to do with the EDP end of the admin function. I didn’t even have/allow a terminal in my office. That’s why I needed secretaries.
Until a few months ago, I still though “download” was what I did to my teenagers when they blew curfew, and “megahertz” was what you could expect if you ‘dissed’ a biker’s ride;… within earshot.
Besides; if either she or the missus ever thought contemplations about marrying her ever entered my mind, I would have lost both of them. They almost certainly would have died laughing
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 02 Sep 2006 18:05 GMT My father (who retired in the 80s and is now in his 80s) said what he missed most about his job was his secretary. He's a miserable filer and can never find anything.
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> > Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: > >> <g> If she grew up with Selectrics, too, you probably couldn't have counted [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > marrying her ever entered my mind, I would have lost both of them. They > almost certainly would have died laughing rooster - 05 Sep 2006 02:51 GMT Suzanne;
Just to let you know - I am following your study plan and enjoying the ‘correspondence course’ very much; - professionally done. It is a pleasure to find someone with an actual liberal arts education writing on the internet. My limited expose in that medium to date has drastically impaired any lingering optimism I might have had that the English Language would survive the internet. In truth, the decline in written language skills, both in Canada and in the US since the late ‘70’s has been very discouraging to me. Never mind high school graduates; - I took cv’s and job applications from countless B.Comm and MBA graduates who couldn’t construct a paragraph if their jobs depended upon it. Little did some of them realize, it often did. I just wish you to know your labours are appreciated for both their content and style. This combination is even more surprising to me than a day without spam. Now if you can show me how to effect the long “m” space on this board “…her for a moment like a wild beast, began screaming “Off with her head! Off with—” “Nonsense!” said Alice very loudly…” --I’ll be a happy camper. All I can create is a double dash.
Happy trails,
> My father (who retired in the 80s and is now in his 80s) said what he missed > most about his job was his secretary. He's a miserable filer and can never > find anything. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 05 Sep 2006 05:21 GMT Actually, you seem to have managed it at least once:
> “…her for a moment like a wild beast, began screaming “Off with her > head! Off with—” at least for me, but possibly not everyone's newsreader will render it properly. It's generally best to avoid even trying to achieve em and en dashes and the like in NG posts since many users will be reading them as plain text, and the special characters will wind up as question marks or worse. They *can* be rendered in HTML, which is why you'll see them on my Web pages (I'm a stickler about that sort of thing even though it's often a lot of work).
I sympathize with your pessimism/despair about the Internet in general. Even academic Web sites often have disastrous bloopers because the pages are created by Web design geeks who can't spell or punctuate on their own and don't always faithfully render the text provided them by the (we'll charitably assume) educated writers.
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> Suzanne; > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > most about his job was his secretary. He's a miserable filer and can never > > find anything. rooster - 24 Nov 2006 01:25 GMT Suzanne,
Happy Thanksgiving.
rod boundary bay, bc
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 24 Nov 2006 04:05 GMT Same to you!
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> Suzanne, > > Happy Thanksgiving. > > rod > boundary bay, bc
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