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"OVR" indicator in status bar

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cronish - 03 Jan 2007 18:16 GMT
in Word 2003 SP1, running on WinXP SP2, when I switch from Insert mode to
Overtype mode and back, the little indicator on the status bar doe not work
properly, its inconsistent. I've created macros for toggling back and forth
as I use this feature constantly, and when I toggle, the indicator doesn't
change until after I next type a character. In previous versions the
indicator would change immediately upon toggling, without waiting for the
keyboard strike. But, when writing/editing, it's frustrating to use that
little "OVR" indicator as a guide and then have it be inaccurate, I wind up
overtyping something I hadn't wanted to overtype because the indicator
indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR" was grayed-out), or vice versa.
Herb Tyson [MVP] - 13 Jan 2007 02:17 GMT
Why do you need a macro to toggle overtype on/off? Why not just use the
Insert key (the default assignment)? Or, if it's not already assigned for
some reason, then why not assign the built-in Overtype command to that
keystroke, a tool, or something else?

That said, a macro should work. What statement(s) is your macro using to
toggle between Insert/Overtype?

The following should be all that's needed:

Sub OverT()
   Overtype = Not Overtype
End Sub

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> in Word 2003 SP1, running on WinXP SP2, when I switch from Insert mode to
> Overtype mode and back, the little indicator on the status bar doe not
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> indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR" was grayed-out), or
> vice versa.
cronish - 16 Jan 2007 22:15 GMT
I do use the Insert key, but also have several keystroke shortcuts that I
programmed, as I'm a fast typist and don't want to leave the main keyboard
to toggle. That said, the macros work fine, that's not the problem. The
problem is that the little "OVR" indicator in the status bar does not follow
suit. Prior to installing Office 2003, the little "OVR" indicator would
toggle between black or grayed-out depending on the state of the command,
and would do so immediately upon toggling. Now, in 2003, after I toggle the
indicator does not change until after a keystroke is made. So, later on,
when I want to toggle and am unsure of which state its in, I can't just look
and know, it's not giving me a reliable indication of whether I'm in Insert
mode or Overtype mode. So, it slows me down a lot...

Do you have any idea what I might do to correct that?
Thx-
c.

> Why do you need a macro to toggle overtype on/off? Why not just use the
> Insert key (the default assignment)? Or, if it's not already assigned for
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>> overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR"
>> was grayed-out), or vice versa.
Herb Tyson [MVP] - 18 Jan 2007 01:11 GMT
But, I'm still puzzled as to why you're using a macro. You don't need a
macro. Just assign the built-in OverType command to the desired keystrokes.

I don't know what might be happening vis-a-vis the macro when it's assigned
to keystrokes. But, if OverType works when assigned to the Insert key, it
should be working when assigned to any other key combination, as well.

(I do know that for some bizarre reason, *some* macros that work just fine
when run from the menu or using the Run command, or when run from within the
VBA window; but the identical macros don't work when run using a keystroke.
Sometimes, you really have to jump through hoops to get things to work
correctly, including running such macros indirectly, by creating a
middle-man macro to run the macro, and then assigning *that* macro the
desired keystroke. I don't know if that's what's happening in this case.
But, if at all possible, you're going to fare better by assigning the
built-in OverType command to the desired keystroke, rather than relying on a
macro.)

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>I do use the Insert key, but also have several keystroke shortcuts that I
>programmed, as I'm a fast typist and don't want to leave the main keyboard
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>>> overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR"
>>> was grayed-out), or vice versa.
cronish - 20 Jan 2007 19:36 GMT
I misspoke, I did not create a macro, I just assigned keystrokes (I guess I
thought that was the same as a macro). All I did was to assign several
different keystroke commands to toggle between overtype and insert mode.
They are, in addition to the usual Insert keystroke, Alt+J and Alt+F, so
that I can toggle on the fly using either hand. But, I suspect you're right,
sometimes there's no explanation for any of these things. I do wish I could
fix this problem, from what I've seen of Word 2007 I'm not going to be
switching anytime soon, I'm a user who obviously likes all the customize
options that the new version seems to limit...Anyway, thanks for your help
with this one, I appreciate your time...
c.

> But, I'm still puzzled as to why you're using a macro. You don't need a
> macro. Just assign the built-in OverType command to the desired
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>>>> to overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the
>>>> "OVR" was grayed-out), or vice versa.
 
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