MS Office Forum / Word / Menus and Toolbars / January 2007
"OVR" indicator in status bar
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cronish - 03 Jan 2007 18:16 GMT in Word 2003 SP1, running on WinXP SP2, when I switch from Insert mode to Overtype mode and back, the little indicator on the status bar doe not work properly, its inconsistent. I've created macros for toggling back and forth as I use this feature constantly, and when I toggle, the indicator doesn't change until after I next type a character. In previous versions the indicator would change immediately upon toggling, without waiting for the keyboard strike. But, when writing/editing, it's frustrating to use that little "OVR" indicator as a guide and then have it be inaccurate, I wind up overtyping something I hadn't wanted to overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR" was grayed-out), or vice versa.
Herb Tyson [MVP] - 13 Jan 2007 02:17 GMT Why do you need a macro to toggle overtype on/off? Why not just use the Insert key (the default assignment)? Or, if it's not already assigned for some reason, then why not assign the built-in Overtype command to that keystroke, a tool, or something else?
That said, a macro should work. What statement(s) is your macro using to toggle between Insert/Overtype?
The following should be all that's needed:
Sub OverT() Overtype = Not Overtype End Sub
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> in Word 2003 SP1, running on WinXP SP2, when I switch from Insert mode to > Overtype mode and back, the little indicator on the status bar doe not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR" was grayed-out), or > vice versa. cronish - 16 Jan 2007 22:15 GMT I do use the Insert key, but also have several keystroke shortcuts that I programmed, as I'm a fast typist and don't want to leave the main keyboard to toggle. That said, the macros work fine, that's not the problem. The problem is that the little "OVR" indicator in the status bar does not follow suit. Prior to installing Office 2003, the little "OVR" indicator would toggle between black or grayed-out depending on the state of the command, and would do so immediately upon toggling. Now, in 2003, after I toggle the indicator does not change until after a keystroke is made. So, later on, when I want to toggle and am unsure of which state its in, I can't just look and know, it's not giving me a reliable indication of whether I'm in Insert mode or Overtype mode. So, it slows me down a lot...
Do you have any idea what I might do to correct that? Thx- c.
> Why do you need a macro to toggle overtype on/off? Why not just use the > Insert key (the default assignment)? Or, if it's not already assigned for [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR" >> was grayed-out), or vice versa. Herb Tyson [MVP] - 18 Jan 2007 01:11 GMT But, I'm still puzzled as to why you're using a macro. You don't need a macro. Just assign the built-in OverType command to the desired keystrokes.
I don't know what might be happening vis-a-vis the macro when it's assigned to keystrokes. But, if OverType works when assigned to the Insert key, it should be working when assigned to any other key combination, as well.
(I do know that for some bizarre reason, *some* macros that work just fine when run from the menu or using the Run command, or when run from within the VBA window; but the identical macros don't work when run using a keystroke. Sometimes, you really have to jump through hoops to get things to work correctly, including running such macros indirectly, by creating a middle-man macro to run the macro, and then assigning *that* macro the desired keystroke. I don't know if that's what's happening in this case. But, if at all possible, you're going to fare better by assigning the built-in OverType command to the desired keystroke, rather than relying on a macro.)
 Signature Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Author of the Word 2007 Bible Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
>I do use the Insert key, but also have several keystroke shortcuts that I >programmed, as I'm a fast typist and don't want to leave the main keyboard [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>> overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the "OVR" >>> was grayed-out), or vice versa. cronish - 20 Jan 2007 19:36 GMT I misspoke, I did not create a macro, I just assigned keystrokes (I guess I thought that was the same as a macro). All I did was to assign several different keystroke commands to toggle between overtype and insert mode. They are, in addition to the usual Insert keystroke, Alt+J and Alt+F, so that I can toggle on the fly using either hand. But, I suspect you're right, sometimes there's no explanation for any of these things. I do wish I could fix this problem, from what I've seen of Word 2007 I'm not going to be switching anytime soon, I'm a user who obviously likes all the customize options that the new version seems to limit...Anyway, thanks for your help with this one, I appreciate your time... c.
> But, I'm still puzzled as to why you're using a macro. You don't need a > macro. Just assign the built-in OverType command to the desired [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >>>> to overtype because the indicator indicated "Insert" mode (i.e., the >>>> "OVR" was grayed-out), or vice versa.
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