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MS Office Forum / Word / Numbering / June 2004broken outline numbering
I know this is a FAQ but I'm still confused. I have the classic re-start numbering problem. In particular: I have a document that's structured: [preface] I part one title 1 chapter one title 2 chapter two title II part two title 17 chapter seventeen title 18 chapter eighteen title but using automatic outline numbering, gives a structrue [preface] II part one title 1 chapter one title 2 chapter two title III part two title 11 chapter eleven title 12 chapter twelve title where the first heading starts at II rather than I. my [preface] uses none of the built in headings (and uses no numbering at all). How can I get my "part one title" to synchronize with "part I" numbering? Yours sincerely stymied P.S. I'm using word 97 > [how can I get 'heading 1' to start counting from 1?] Is there anybody out there? Any answers? No URL to paste? No gem of information in the mountain of dross that constitutes the microsoft knowledge base? Surely one of you cut and paste babies must have a fistful of URLs squirreled away on how to restart numbering. Actually don't worry. After seeking for a long time I found an answer. And the answer was found only through a process of exhausting every option on the menu bar. (It wasn't easy, there are a lot of options.) I'd thought of keeping this information to myself, but in the interest of boosting the signal-to-noise ratio on this list I've generously decided to share this answer. To restart numbering, when using the inbuilt outline numbering for heading 1 through to heading 9: 1) Go to the heading in your document, for example, in my document I have a heading II "my part I title" 2) Click on your right mouse button. Select the item "Bullets and Numbering" from the floating menu. This displays the "Bullets and Numbering" applet. 3) Click on the customize button in the "Bullets and Numbering" applet to display the "Customize Outline Numbered List" applet. 4) Find the text box with the label "Start at:" and set the displayed number to I. This will restart numbering. So in my example, the heading is now: I "my part I title" 5) Click OK twice to close the applets. This interface must've been designed by a nasty adventure gamer. Who else would bury essential stuff like restarting numbering in a text box, two applets deep on the rarely used third mouse button? Well Mr. GUI Developer if I want to play adventure games I'll play NetHack thank you very much. Yours sincerely Word user with the patience of Job Hi Guy, > Is there anybody out there? Well, yes. But do keep in mind that this is a weekend. And a peer-to-peer volunteer support group. Some people do have a life :-) I calculate you waited all of eighteen hours before coming back in a snit. Even on CompuServe, where there are designated Sysops that try to make sure every question gets a response, the time window is "within 24 hours". > This interface must've been designed by a nasty > adventure gamer. Who else would bury essential stuff > like restarting numbering in a text box, two applets deep > on the rarely used third mouse button? I've actually met the person who designed it. And no, he's not a nasty adventure gamer... 1. You could have found it, logically enough, via Format/Bullets and Numbering. Outline tab. Customize. 2. If the restart was at "2", rather than "1" you must have done something to cause that. In some eight years of using this numbering functionality, I've never yet seen *first* level numbering start at a value other than "1" all on its own. To my knowledge, this "deeply buried" box is the only place you can do that. Unless you've been fiddling with macros. And because it's so unlikely that someone could change this without knowing how to get back in to find it, that's probably why no one ventured an answer to your original question. They couldn't figure out what might have gone wrong. > in > the interest of boosting the signal-to-noise ratio on this > list I don't see any noise on this list. Every posting in the last few days has been on-topic. And if you'd bothered to look at the links in some of the regulars' signature lines, you'd have found word.mvps.org and all you need to know about numbering is in there. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Sep 30 2003) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) > > Is there anybody out there? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > designated Sysops that try to make sure every question gets > a response, the time window is "within 24 hours". Whoa! no need to come in with both barrels blazing. > > This interface must've been designed by a nasty > > adventure gamer. > > > I've actually met the person who designed it. And no, he's > not a nasty adventure gamer... A poor choice. I'll edit that to a thwarted adventure gamer. > 1. You could have found it, logically enough, via > Format/Bullets and Numbering. Outline tab. Customize. Logical? Bah, Humbug! > 2. If the restart was at "2", rather than "1" you must have > done something to cause that. Why not blame the victim? > Whoa! no need to come in with both barrels blazing. Well, you might want to consider the attitude implicit in what you wrote...Frustration is fine, and we all know tone is difficult to express in plain text messages, but these sounded like personal attacks on the people who post here regularly AND on the people who ask for help. Maybe you didn't realize, so I've compiled the essential bits to help you out, although I *really* don't want to escalate an argument (and would be saying all this quite diffidently if I were speaking instead of writing :). > Guy Worthington wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Surely one of you cut and paste babies must have a fistful > of URLs squirreled away on how to restart numbering. <snip> > I'd thought of keeping this information to myself, but in > the interest of boosting the signal-to-noise ratio on this > list I've generously decided to share this answer. <snip> > Word user with the patience of Job Patience? I'm sure it reads worse to me, and to others, than it seemed to you at the time. DM > > [some best forgotten words] > Well, you might want to consider the attitude implicit in what you > wrote [...] I'm sure it reads worse to me, and to others, than it > seemed to you at the time. Quod scripsi scripsi Pontius Pilate >>> [some best forgotten words] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Quod scripsi scripsi > Pontius Pilate Ooh, sorry...understanding that is well beyond my capabilities. I had to pause and ponder the Job reference, to be honest. :) But now I'm consumed with curiosity and too lazy to go find my medievalist friend, so perhaps you could translate, Guy? Dayo More or less translates as "what I have written, I have written". How droll. Regards, Chad DeMeyer > >>> [some best forgotten words] > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dayo Yeah, eventually I got it, though my internet search kept running into Harry Potter (!?!). Thanks much, though. Dayo > More or less translates as "what I have written, I have written". How > droll. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Dayo Dayo Mitchell wrote: > > Quod scripsi scripsi > > Pontius Pilate > > [...] I'm consumed with curiosity and too lazy to go find > my medievalist friend, so perhaps you could translate, Guy? My latin comprises of what some very patient teachers could lodge into a very unwilling head. So if you want a proper answer you'd better seek out your friend. However since I know better than most what I meant, here's what I meant. The quote comes from the bible (John 19:19-22). Pilate answered, What I have written I have written. But these days the quote also has its own life. "What I have written ought not change." In this context it is commonly used when you're unhappy with the way your words have been edited. And I'm unhappy with the way that you've edited my writing. In your edited version of what I wrote you've (probably quite unintentionally) made me look crass, boorish, & rude. The worst I can make of my own writing is that I'm ever so slightly miffed. |
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