Cross refernce to a SEQ?

Thread view:

Enable EMail Alerts

Start New Thread

Thread rating:

ML - 26 Mar 2005 23:30 GMT

How do you get Word to do a cross reference to a custom SEQ?
I have created a SEQ ABC but it does not show I when I select to do a cross
reference?

Reply to this Message

G.G.Yagoda - 27 Mar 2005 05:49 GMT

You could bookmark each SEQ field. Or you could use a LISTNUM field
instead, which can be cross-referenced as a Numbered item like a
Heading style.

Reply to this Message

ML - 27 Mar 2005 11:58 GMT

These are inserted via an Autotext for the user to simplify things.
Creating a bookmark would require the user to manually add it after the fact
would it not?

> You could bookmark each SEQ field. Or you could use a LISTNUM field
> instead, which can be cross-referenced as a Numbered item like a
> Heading style.

Reply to this Message

Stefan Blom - 29 Mar 2005 08:07 GMT

Yes, SEQ fields would require manual bookmarking for cross-reference
purposes.

Signature

Stefan Blom

> These are inserted via an Autotext for the user to simplify things.
> Creating a bookmark would require the user to manually add it after the fact
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > instead, which can be cross-referenced as a Numbered item like a
> > Heading style.

Reply to this Message

G.G.Yagoda - 30 Mar 2005 04:00 GMT

Margaret's suggestion sounds perfect but I'm at a loss to understand
why it hinges on having "no other numbered styles in your Annexes."

Why this restriction, Margaret?

Suppose the Annex had 10 different sets of outline-numbered styles, and
10 more sets of single-level numbering. As long as the list template
you wish to use is named, and the LISTNUM field uses that name, what
difference could a blizzard of other numbering styles make?

Reply to this Message

Margaret Aldis - 30 Mar 2005 10:14 GMT

That restriction was for the simple case (no other numbering).

I carried on to try to explain that there is a problem with using a named
List Template that is *also* linked to a style. It will work in a single
document (and when I first tried it I thought it was a Eureka moment <g>),
but I ran into difficulties as soon as I tried to copy numbered paras and
styles between docs (including update styles from template, even with code
fixes). IIRC, Word drops the name of a List Template linked to a style where
that name is already in use in the target document. You end up with
different effects depending on whether you are copying the styled para
and/or the LISTNUMs, and the end result is that the numbering sequence
'connection' between style and LISTNUM made via the name can get broken.

My line of reasoning was thus - more than one sort of numbering (a 'blizzard
of styles' or just one or two) means you can't use the default (unnamed)
LISTNUM, as you may pick up the wrong sequence (dependent on position). You
are therefore forced to name the LISTNUM, which introduces the problem
above, blocking it as a reliable solution. However, I believe you can use
*all* named LISTNUMs (hence the suggestion to insert in the "Annex" title),
because the copy and paste problem doesn't apply (the field is copied but
not the List Template, so Names are left alone).

It may be that there are circumstances or Word SRs in which the name
'connection' can be made to work of course, but it looks like this was not a
tested or supported scenario in 2002/2003 and so I haven't felt it is
something that can be recommended.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP

Signature

Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org

> Margaret's suggestion sounds perfect but I'm at a loss to understand
> why it hinges on having "no other numbered styles in your Annexes."
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> you wish to use is named, and the LISTNUM field uses that name, what
> difference could a blizzard of other numbering styles make?

Reply to this Message

ML - 27 Mar 2005 14:18 GMT

Is there anyway to make a LISTNUM reset to 1 after a specific style?
I have a custom Annex Header 1 style and I need the equation numbering to
rest after each new header 1.

I had the same problem with SEQ, it will not reset after custom header
styles, so it runs from one header section to the next with no resets.

What I want/need is the following:

Annex A My First Annex

Equation xyz (A.1)
Equation efg (A.2)

Annex B My Second Annex

Equation abc (B.1)

When I do a cross-reference I'd like it to show up as (A.1)

> You could bookmark each SEQ field. Or you could use a LISTNUM field
> instead, which can be cross-referenced as a Numbered item like a
> Heading style.

Reply to this Message

Margaret Aldis - 28 Mar 2005 14:59 GMT

Provided you have no other numbered styles in your Annexes, you can do this
fairly easily. Set up your style for Annex as outline numbered. While
working from the Annex style, set up the second numbering level with the
A.1, A.2 format, but not linked to any style .

Then where you need to number the equations you can simply insert a LISTNUM
field (unnamed) at level 2 - by default the LISTNUM will pick up the outline
numbering of the last sequence used.

If you have to mix the equation numbering with other numbering (e.g.
numbered lists) within your Annexes then you'll have to use named LISTNUMs
or you may inadvertently pick up the wrong numbering format. Although in a
single document you can use the same named List Template for both style
linking and LISTNUMs, you will find this difficult to manage if you need to
update or copy styles, cut and paste between documents and so on (Word has
its own ideas about when and why to preserve the name in these situations).
In this case you could do the whole thing with named LISTNUMs, if you don't
mind inserting a level 1 field in the Annex title.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP

Signature

Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org

> Is there anyway to make a LISTNUM reset to 1 after a specific style?
> I have a custom Annex Header 1 style and I need the equation numbering to
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>> instead, which can be cross-referenced as a Numbered item like a
>> Heading style.

Reply to this Message

ML - 29 Mar 2005 00:31 GMT

Thanks for the suggestion, we have numbered styles so that wont work :(

> Provided you have no other numbered styles in your Annexes, you can do
> this fairly easily. Set up your style for Annex as outline numbered. While
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>>> instead, which can be cross-referenced as a Numbered item like a
>>> Heading style.

Reply to this Message

Peter Gallmann - 30 Mar 2005 19:55 GMT

If I unterstand you correctly, you wish to cross-reference to
SEQ-Numbers of a self-defined category, for example { SEQ Fantasy }. To
do this, you must first use the caption command. In the Insert menu,
select Reference > Caption. A window pops up. On the left, there is a
button named "new category". Define your Category (e.g. Fantasy). Then
press "Close" (not "OK").

Now you can cross-reference to your SEQ-Numbers. In the Insert menu,
select Cross-reference. On the left upper corner of the window now
appearing, you should be able to select your SEQ Category (e.g. Fantasy).

Peter Gallmann

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

> How do you get Word to do a cross reference to a custom SEQ?
> I have created a SEQ ABC but it does not show I when I select to do a cross
> reference?

Reply to this Message

G.G.Yagoda - 30 Mar 2005 20:11 GMT

Thanks, Margaret. Unreliable copying and pasting. Got it.

Reply to this Message

Rate this thread: