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Is it possible to have a single list with different styles?

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LostBoyz69@gmail.com - 30 Jan 2006 22:05 GMT
Is is possible to have an outline format with multiple styles per
level?

Say a 9 level legal type outline where each level has two formats.

1 Level 1a
1 Level 1b

1.1 Level 2a
1.1 Level 2b

1.1.1 ..... you get the point ...

such that the list uses a single numbering sequence ....

ex:

1 Level 1a

1.1 Level 2a
1.2 Level 2b
1.3 Level 2b

1.3.1 Level 3a

1.4. Level 2a

2 Level 1b

etc.
Chuck Henrich - 31 Jan 2006 14:30 GMT
Not using numbering styles.  It might be possible to do it using SEQ fields
or such like (with difficulty) but you might want to rethink the idea - it
seems confusing.  What are you trying to achieve?

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> Is is possible to have an outline format with multiple styles per
> level?
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>
> etc.
LostBoyz69@gmail.com - 31 Jan 2006 14:44 GMT
Each paragraph/LI/heading needs one of two different markings, yet the
markings don't change the document structure. (as shown in my example
above).  A single outlined doc except that one of two markings are
applied to the level.
Chuck Henrich - 31 Jan 2006 15:01 GMT
Hmm, looks like your levels were using two separate "markings" on each
individual level ("1.1" and "2a" for example) simultaneously which is
something Word doesn't do except perhaps using some fancy footwork with
fields.

I guess the question really is - why?  It's certainly an unusual approach to
outlining.  Exploring that might help you figure out a different way to do
what you want. For instance, if the secondary numbering (2a, 2b etc) refers
to some other list then you could use cross references...

Other than that I'm out of suggestions.
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> Each paragraph/LI/heading needs one of two different markings, yet the
> markings don't change the document structure. (as shown in my example
> above).  A single outlined doc except that one of two markings are
> applied to the level.
LostBoyz69@gmail.com - 31 Jan 2006 15:55 GMT
Well, the document style is not actually that unusual.  Like I said
.... it's a single document outline and every paragraph must be tagged
with one marking or another.  Call them Blue/Green for example.  The
doc would then look like:

1 (blue) ........

1.1 (green) .....

1.2 (blue) .....

2 (green) .....

2.1 (green) .....

2.1.1 (blue) ....

and such.  I was hoping to use some way of including the tag in the
style to keep outline consistancy, validate proper paragraph tagging
and keep the TOC managable.
Baconbutty - 01 Feb 2006 11:56 GMT
[snip]
> Well, the document style is not actually that unusual.  Like I said
> .... it's a single document outline and every paragraph must be tagged
> with one marking or another.  Call them Blue/Green for example.  The
> doc would then look like:

I think you can only have a one to one mapping between a level and a
style.

However, one hack, is that you can set a Base Style for a given style.

So you could do this:-

Level 1   <---LinkedStyle---->   "Heading 1" (Bold)
                                               |
                                               | (Base Style =
"Heading 1")
                                               |
                                           "Heading 1 Not Bold"
(inherits the numbering link)

You will need to manually select "Heading 1 Not Bold" each time you
want it however, as the "Enter Key" will revert back to "Heading 1
Bold" each time.  Experiment and see how you get on.

Regards

Julian
Margaret Aldis - 06 Feb 2006 16:25 GMT
Another couple of ideas:

You could set up the numbering hierarchy for one version of your styles
(blue, say) and then base the second set of styles on the first, with
formatting differences. The limitation to this is that if you use
promote/demote you will find you pick up the blue version of the style and
will have to reapply green.

If blue and green differ only in character formatting (if one is bold, for
instance) then you could alternatively use a single set of paragraph styles,
and apply the character formatting as a character style. You might want to
set up a simple macro to apply the paragraph style + character style
combination.

Note that indent (and number tab) information come from the numbering, so
you are living dangerously if you use the secondary style to reset the
indent. In that case you might do better with a LISTNUM field.

> Well, the document style is not actually that unusual.  Like I said
> .... it's a single document outline and every paragraph must be tagged
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> style to keep outline consistancy, validate proper paragraph tagging
> and keep the TOC managable.
LostBoyz69@gmail.com - 08 Feb 2006 21:00 GMT
Actually, blue and green were supposed to represent different text
tags.

1  TAG1  (text ....)
1  TAG2  (text ....)

The tags are used to identify paragraph type.  The paragraph type can
change independantly of the outline level.

Tried the linked styles but they seemed to reset eachother ....
probably didn't set it up right.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 09 Feb 2006 09:31 GMT
OK, you "can" do this with List Styles if you are using Word 2003.

A List Style can (usually does...) apply the numbering outline independently
of the paragraph style.  This is what it was designed for.

However, I think that if you implement your solution using ListNum fields,
you will get a more flexible and stable solution.

You can look up ListNum fields in the Word Help.

Cheers

On 9/2/06 8:00 AM, in article
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> Actually, blue and green were supposed to represent different text
> tags.
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> Tried the linked styles but they seemed to reset eachother ....
> probably didn't set it up right.

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Margaret Aldis - 09 Feb 2006 15:11 GMT
OK, there is no way you can have both the single-sequence numbers and the
different tags both generated from a single outline numbering (whether
coming from Paragraph Style, List Style, or LISTNUM).

If there are no format differences between tag1 and tag 2 paragraph types,
then I would use tried-and-tested Paragraph Style outline numbering (follow
Shauna Kelly's instructions to get that set up reliably), and insert the TAG
text as AutoText (put buttons on your toolbar for these).

If there is a format difference, then you'll need different Paragraph
Styles. To get the single numbering, you can use one style based on the
other (numbered) Paragraph Style, or you can use a List Style (to apply the
numbering and indents on top of the paragraph style), or you can insert
LISTNUMs (in this case set up AutoTexts for each combination of level and
tag type, so you only have one insertion to do at the start of each para).

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> Actually, blue and green were supposed to represent different text
> tags.
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> Tried the linked styles but they seemed to reset eachother ....
> probably didn't set it up right.
 
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