MS Office Forum / Word / Numbering / February 2008
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C - 18 Feb 2008 22:18 GMT Hello everyone,
I'm quite sure you heard this one billion times. Topic Word 2007 SP1
I have lawyers who copy-paste information from legal documents into one word document. So at the end they will have numbers, letters, dots - every possible thing in their word document. I would like to know, how it's possible to reset numbering? Or continue previous one? For example:
1. some quote a) text b) text 7. some text 9. some text 9.1 some text 9.2 some text 1. text 2. text
As you see, very mixed up numbering - result of copy-paste from various documents.
Even thou, I get all these numbered easily, but with function "Continue numbering" it wount continue previous numbering. If I have 1.2.3. and then some "random" numbers and when I order them to continue previous, it wount do it. In word 2000 it was working. In 2003 and 2007 not working.
Any ideas there? Oh, and how to get rid of these "billions" of options if u click numbering button? It's no help, except confusing people.
Please answer to ivan@dcom.ee
Best regards and thanks in advance,
Ivan
macropod - 19 Feb 2008 09:14 GMT Hi Ivan,
This is what Word's Heading Styles are used for. You can define Heading Styles to use numbers, letters, roman numerals, etc. By setting up the numbering of Heading2 to be dependent on Heading1 and the numbering of Heading3 to be dependent on Heading2, you can automatically get a document organised along the lines of: 1 Heading1 1.1 Heading2 Some text 1.1.1 Heading3 Some text 1.1.2 Heading3 1.2 Heading2 Some text 1.2.1 Heading3 Some text 2 Heading1 2.1 Heading2 Some text 2.1.1 Heading3 Some text 2.2 Heading2 Some text 2.1.2 Heading3 Some text 2.2.1 Heading3 Some text
The beauty of Styles in Word is that, if you decide that all paragraphs of a given style should be formatted differently, all you need to do is to change the formatting for the style, rather than changing every one of those paragraphs individually.
By using Heading Styles, you can also have Word generate a Table of Contents if you need one.
Also as a rule, if you copy paragraphs from one document to another, and both use the same Styles, the imported paragraphs will adopt the formatting that applies to the same Style in the target document.
Cheers
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> Hello everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Ivan C - 19 Feb 2008 23:49 GMT Hi,
I don't think you understand me right - atleast your information did not help my problem. Let me try explain again. Document looks like this:
1. bold text with underlined text 2. bold text with some italic text 3. regular text ii. some regular text iii. some regular text 4. some regular text a. some text a. some text b. some text c. some text 7. text 1. some bold text 2. some bold text 3. some bold text
Now what I need is that lawyer who copy-pasted all that from many different documents could have above information looking like this.
1. 2. 3. 3.1 3.2 4. 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 5. 6. 7. 8.
Without wasting so much time. I can fix this yes, secretarys too, but my managing partners wount waste 1 hour fixing that numbering stuff. I need some easy way to do it, because I think we all do it hard way, wasting a lot time.
What would you suggest to have first example look like second example in fastest way - and easy to explain for users.
Thanks so much for your time and answers,
Best regards,
Ivan
> Hi Ivan, > [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > > > Ivan Suzanne S. Barnhill - 20 Feb 2008 00:04 GMT May I suggest manual numbering?
 Signature Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] >> > >> > Ivan Suzanne S. Barnhill - 20 Feb 2008 02:03 GMT Please disregard my previous answer. I didn't read your entire question and thought the example you gave was what you were striving for. As the others have said, you can create a numbered list based on styles by following the instructions at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html
 Signature Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA
> May I suggest manual numbering? > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] >>> > >>> > Ivan macropod - 20 Feb 2008 00:05 GMT Hi Ivan,
Word's Heading Styles will do that - simply set up a template with the required formatting and, when you get a document where the formatting's all over the place, simply copy the text & paste it as unformatted text into a new document based on your template. Then go through it and apply the appropriate heading styles to the various paragraphs. The most you'll then need to do is to delete the 'hard-coded' paragraph numbers that came across with the original. From then on, if you want to add or delete paragraphs, the numbering will automatically update as needed.
Cheers
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> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] >> > >> > Ivan Jeff Wiseman - 20 Feb 2008 00:24 GMT Hi there!
Actually, macropod did moreor less answer your question--the only decent way to do it is using styles. By your response I get the impression that you might not be real familiar with them.
Try this on your document, view it in "Normal" view then under Word -> Preferences -> View -> Window, set the Style Area Width value to something other than the default 0 value (another one of MS's absolutely idiotic defaults IMHO) such as .8 to 1.0 inches or thereabouts.
Now you may be able to see part of your problem. All of he first level paragraphs should ideally have the same style name, all of the second the same name as well but different from the first, and so on. The number lists being used should be defined in those style and NOT applied using the numbering or bullet buttons. I suspect that you may have a mix of styles, or everything is a "Normal" style with each paragraph being highly custom and disjoint from the others.
In the example you gave below, you have at LEAST 3 different number lists being used (instead of a single outline number list for all). Conceptually, you would think that the solution would be to select the autonumbers on the paragraphs that seem to be out of sequence and change them to the same autonumbers being used in the other paragraphs. Unfortunately, the way MS designed the number list galleries and the "Numbering" button, this is (for all intents and purposes) impossible.
When you have styles defined with outline number lists (e.g., Heading 1, Heading 2, etc), all you do is select all of the level 1 paragraphs and apply the appropriate style. Then do the same to the next level paragraphs.
Anyway, the bottom line is, in spite of how rigorously MS has tried to Hide the core construct of their tool (i.e., styles) in order to "simplify" it, anyone that does not familiarize themselves with styles are doomed to continued confusion as to why they can't seem to control their documents.
Hope this helps some
- Jeff
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] >>> >>>Ivan
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