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MS Office Forum / Word / Numbering / March 2004List Styles vs Outline Numbering - difference?
I am new to Word 2003, coming from Word 2000. I have read the rules about numbering and digging to China. Generally able to work numbered paragraphs out. Now I see List Styles as another option on the numbering dialog. They look like Outline styles. What is the difference? When would/should these be used? I'm about to work on/update legal pleadings. I suspect I'll be using the Familiar Styles on headings approach, but what is this List Styles thing? Numbers need to look like - Count I 1 first stuff 2 second stuff a) sub stuff b) stuffy stuff 3 third stuff Count II 4 deep stuff 5 murky stuff Thanks for assistance Sharon Gant Legal Aid and Defender Association, Inc. When you say you've read the rules about numbering and digging to China I assume you mean you've read at least: How to create numbered headings or outline numbering in your Word document <URL: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html>. This is based on ... Word's Numbering Explained <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/WordsNumberingExplained.htm> How to Create a Template, Part II <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm> ...as well as perhaps... Seven Laws of Outline Numbering <URL: http://www.microsystems.com/fra_sevenlawsofoutlinenumbering.htm> The following are some discussions on the Microsoft newsgroups on numbering: Nightmare on ListNumbering Street <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&th=9e790fa7ed2886b3,18&ic=1> The Joy of Lists <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&th=811287ebce8fc203,15&ic=1> Relinking ListTemplates <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&th=2350746054c838e,12&ic=1> Outline numbering: restart doesn't restart <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=2168093ed1c9eaed,6&se ekm=muq2hs47vabsq381ngrm7fdmqj4s2e4ab2@4ax.com#p> Format Doesn't "Hold" <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=3a351382011420bf,5&se ekm=RXz39CAcCC$4Iwap@syntagma.demon.co.uk#p> (above list compiled by Dave Rado, Word MVP) ListNumbering Street Revisited <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=57df77857e4993ce> See the latest numbering discussion I've seen, especially post #4 which contains Dave Rado's concise instructions for setting up heading numbering. <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=bce07d7714769f5c> Is this assumption correct?  SignatureCharles Kenyon (another lawyer) See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > I am new to Word 2003, coming from Word 2000. I have read > the rules about numbering and digging to China. Generally [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Sharon Gant > Legal Aid and Defender Association, Inc. Yes I've read the noted items, and spent some time studying/experimenting with the Seven laws, though it has been some time. I've only just come to this place and I will review the suggested newsgroup discussions. The thing is, I notice this 4th choice on the number dialog box that was not there is Word 2000 and so far have not found any explanation on why it is there. Is it a new goodie or a ringer? Sharon >-----Original Message----- >When you say you've read the rules about numbering and digging to China I >assume you mean you've read at least: > >How to create numbered headings or outline numbering in your Word document ><URL: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering .html>. This >is based on ... > >Word's Numbering Explained ><URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/WordsNumberingExpl ained.htm> >How to Create a Template, Part II ><URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplat ePart2.htm> >....as well as perhaps... > >Seven Laws of Outline Numbering ><URL: http://www.microsystems.com/fra_sevenlawsofoutlinenumberin g.htm Sharon - If you need to index your headings, as in a Table of Contents, you're out of luck with list styles. You have to do indexing manually. If you need to format the headings that follow the numbers, you're out of luck with list styles. You must format each paragraph's heading directly. If you need to change space before or space after numbered paragraphs, you're out of luck with list styles. Instead of modifyng the Heading style, you must assign the level to a style which already has the space before/after you need. List styles seem to have been designed for outlining E-Z stuff like grocery lists, 7th grade reports and short letters. If you know nothing about outlining and your requirements are modest, then list styles are a great way to get the job done. For legal documents . . . well, that's your call. - Bruce > Yes I've read the noted items, and spent some time > studying/experimenting with the Seven laws, though it has [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > http://www.microsystems.com/fra_sevenlawsofoutlinenumberin > g.htm The result looked the same in the sample box making me wonder why they added this tab. I think I'll just take the "List Styles" tab off my list. Thanks Sharon >-----Original Message----- >Sharon - [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >For legal documents . . . well, that's your call. - Bruce > Seven Laws of Outline Numbering > http://www.microsystems.com/fra_sevenlawsofoutlinenumbering.htm Do you know if this is anyplace else? The site has moved to one which requires you to join. AA, Find a cached .html version on Google at the following URL: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:jSjzDubIzBgJ:www.microsystems.com/PDFS/sevenl aws.pdf+seven+laws+of+outline+numbering&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Jon > > Seven Laws of Outline Numbering > > http://www.microsystems.com/fra_sevenlawsofoutlinenumbering.htm > > Do you know if this is anyplace else? The site has moved to one which requires you to > join. > Find a cached .html version on Google at the following URL: > http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:jSjzDubIzBgJ:www.microsystems.com/PDFS/sevenl aws.pdf+seven+laws+of+outline+numbering&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Thanks Jon
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