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Unwanted margin boundaries !

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Piper John - 08 Mar 2007 05:53 GMT
Hi there,

JUST had a problem occur today that is driving me MAD.

In MS Word now I get what I call margin boundary markers - not sure of the
correct term.   In all cases its when I am in print layout mode.

What it is looks like 2 sides of a square - and there is one at each corner
of the text area.   Each has a different orientation and points into the area.
In many ways they are like the dotted "things" you see when you can click
on/off boundaries - where the lines will join them up.

The FRUSTRATING things are:
1) I don't know how / why they are there today and not yesterday.
2) How I turn them OFF.

Can anyone help me please ??
Lene Fredborg - 08 Mar 2007 08:13 GMT
See the article "Margin marks or crop marks appear on each corner of the page
when you open a document in Word 2002 or in Word 2003":
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=839371

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www.thedoctools.com
Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word

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> Can anyone help me please ??
cisbport - 08 Mar 2007 09:49 GMT
I have the same problem.  It started when I opened a document from the a
co-worker that had these marks.  Now all my documents have them.  I tried the
solution at "Margin marks or crop marks appear on each corner of the page
when you open a document in Word 2002 or in Word 2003" it did not work.  
(There were no Asian fonts listed, anyway.)  I restarted the computer and it
still did not work.  

More help please

> See the article "Margin marks or crop marks appear on each corner of the page
> when you open a document in Word 2002 or in Word 2003":
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> >
> > Can anyone help me please ??
Stefan Blom - 08 Mar 2007 12:09 GMT
See if the registry fix suggested by Jay Freedman in the following
thread works:

Grey marks indicating margins
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.docmanagement/browse_thread
/thread/a0836eb1c8ac425a/cc38d8ccab08d07f


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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

> I have the same problem.  It started when I opened a document from the a
> co-worker that had these marks.  Now all my documents have them.  I tried the
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> > >
> > > Can anyone help me please ??
cisbport - 08 Mar 2007 22:53 GMT
Stefan,

Thanks but, I checked the registry and all the numeric values are
"ExplicitOff" except for 1033 which is “On”, as Jay Freedman says they should
be.

On the way to do this I also unchecked the supplemental language support
boxes in Control Panel/Regional and Language Options  Language tab and the
check boxes for the “foreign” languages in the Control Panel/Regional and
Language Options  Advanced tab.  Then restarted.  This created a registry
change.  But the marks are still there.

Then I checked the registry and found it as it should be with "ExplicitOff"
except for 1033 which is “On”.

What now?

> See if the registry fix suggested by Jay Freedman in the following
> thread works:
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> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me please ??
Piper John - 08 Mar 2007 22:56 GMT
Stefan,

THANK YOU for that link.

I followed what it said to do - registry editing is NOT my forte, BUT, when
I changed the attribute for one of the language codes, and restarted word,
the problem was gone !!

This was all I could do as nothing else would work - the language setting
tool thingy fails for me.

Thanx again for the assistance, I do appreciate it !

> See if the registry fix suggested by Jay Freedman in the following
> thread works:
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> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me please ??
Stefan Blom - 09 Mar 2007 09:24 GMT
I'm glad I could help--or, rather, that Jay Freedman could.  :-)

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

> Stefan,
>
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> >
> > Grey marks indicating margins

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.docmanagement/browse_thread
/thread/a0836eb1c8ac425a/cc38d8ccab08d07f


> > > I have the same problem.  It started when I opened a document from
> > the a
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> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone help me please ??
cisbport - 08 Mar 2007 23:07 GMT
Stefan,

Thanks but, I checked the registry and all the numeric values are
"ExplicitOff" except for 1033 which is “On”, as Jay Freedman says they should
be.

On the way to do this I also unchecked the supplemental language support
boxes in Control Panel/Regional and Language Options  Language tab and the
check boxes for the “foreign” languages in the Control Panel/Regional and
Language Options  Advanced tab.  Then restarted.  This created a registry
change.  But the marks are still there.

Then I checked the registry and found it as it should be with "ExplicitOff"
except for 1033 which is “On”.

What now?

> See if the registry fix suggested by Jay Freedman in the following
> thread works:
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me please ??
Stefan Blom - 09 Mar 2007 09:44 GMT
I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.  :-(

... unless you didn't forget to clear the "Text boundaries" option in
Tools | Options, View tab?

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

> Stefan,
>
> Thanks but, I checked the registry and all the numeric values are
> "ExplicitOff" except for 1033 which is "On", as Jay Freedman says
they should
> be.
>
> On the way to do this I also unchecked the supplemental language support
> boxes in Control Panel/Regional and Language Options  Language tab and the
> check boxes for the "foreign" languages in the Control
Panel/Regional and
> Language Options  Advanced tab.  Then restarted.  This created a registry
> change.  But the marks are still there.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >
> > Grey marks indicating margins

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.docmanagement/browse_thread
/thread/a0836eb1c8ac425a/cc38d8ccab08d07f


> > > I have the same problem.  It started when I opened a document from
> > the a
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone help me please ??
Stefan Blom - 12 Mar 2007 08:42 GMT
> I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.  :-(
>
> ... unless you didn't forget to clear the "Text boundaries" option
> in Tools | Options, View tab?

Correction: Unless you *forgot* to clear the "Text boundaries"
option...

Too many negations in one sentence!

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

> I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.  :-(
>
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> > >
> > > Grey marks indicating margins

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.docmanagement/browse_thread
/thread/a0836eb1c8ac425a/cc38d8ccab08d07f


> > > > I have the same problem.  It started when I opened a document
> from
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> > > > > > Can anyone help me please ??
Piper John - 08 Mar 2007 22:27 GMT
Thanx for the suggestion - I did try it but I get a fatal error and the
process aborts.   Goes nowhere in a hurry !

> See the article "Margin marks or crop marks appear on each corner of the page
> when you open a document in Word 2002 or in Word 2003":
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >
> > Can anyone help me please ??
LiliB - 01 Aug 2008 00:13 GMT
SYMPTOMS
When you open a document in Microsoft Word, margin marks or crop marks may
appear on each corner of the page.
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CAUSE
This problem occurs only if you have one of the following Asian languages
turned on in Microsoft Office Language Settings: • Chinese (Traditional)
• Chinese (Simplified)
• Japanese
• Korean
Note These margin marks or crop marks that may appear on corners of the page
are different from text boundary marks. To turn on or turn off text
boundaries, you can use the Text boundaries option that is available in
Microsoft Word.
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RESOLUTION
To resolve this problem, remove all the Asian languages from the Enabled
languages list in Microsoft Office Language Settings. To do this, follow
these steps.

Note Because there are several versions of Microsoft Windows, the following
steps may be different on your computer. If they are, see your product
documentation to complete these steps.

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Remove margin marks in Word 2003
Make sure that the Text boundaries option in Word is not selected. To do
this, follow these steps: 1. Start Word 2003.
2. On the Tools menu, click Options.
3. In the View tab, under Print and Web Layout options, verify that the Text
boundaries check box is selected.

If the Text boundaries check box is selected, click to clear the Text
boundaries check box.
Remove all the Asian languages from the Enabled languages list. To do this,
follow these steps: 1. Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Microsoft
Office, point to Microsoft Office Tools, and then click Microsoft Office 2003
Language Settings.  
2. In the Enabled languages list, select and remove all the languages that
you do not use except English (U.S.). To do this, follow these steps: a.  In
the Enabled languages list, select a language that you want to remove, and
then click Remove.  
b.  Click OK to update the language settings.

Note You may press the CTRL key and select more than one language, and then
click Remove to remove those languages.


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Remove margin marks in Word 2002
Make sure that the Text boundaries option in Word is not selected. To do
this, follow these steps: 1. Start Word 2002.
2. On the Tools menu, click Options.
3. In the View tab, under Print and Web Layout options, verify that the Text
boundaries check box is selected.

If the Text boundaries check box is selected, click to clear the Text
boundaries check box.
Remove all the Asian languages from the Enabled languages list. To do this,
follow these steps: 1. Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Microsoft
Office Tools, and then click Microsoft Office XP Language Settings.  
2. In the Enabled languages list, select and remove all the languages that
you do not use except English (U.S.). To do this, follow these steps: a.  In
the Enabled languages list, select a language that you want to remove, and
then click Remove.  
b.  Click OK to update the language settings.

Note You may press the CTRL key and select more than one language, and then
click Remove to remove those languages.


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Remove margin marks in Word 2000
Make sure that the Text boundaries option in Word is not selected. To do
this, follow these steps: 1. Start Word 2000.  
2. On the Tools menu, click Options.  
3. On the View tab, verify that the Text boundaries check box is selected
under Print and Web Layout options.

If the Text boundaries check box is selected, click to clear the Text
boundaries check box.  
Remove all the Asian languages from the Enabled languages list. To do this,
follow these steps: 1. Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Microsoft
Office Tools, and then click Microsoft Office Language Settings.  
2. In the Enabled languages list, remove all the languages that you do not
use except English (U.S.). To do this, follow these steps: a.  In the Enabled
languages list, select a language that you want to remove, and then click
Remove.  
b.  Click OK to update the language settings.  


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REFERENCES
For more information about how to use Microsoft Office Language Settings,
click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:
282571 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282571/) WD2002: Spanish (Mexico)
language not enabled in Office XP Language Settings

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> Can anyone help me please ??
 
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