MS Office Forum / Word / Page Layout / June 2007
Annoying line across the bottom of a page
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Peyton Todd - 28 Jun 2007 16:42 GMT Hello. Suddenly there has appeared a line at the bottom of one of my pages in Word 2003. It does not appear in Normal View, but it does appear in Print Layout View, and in a PDF which gets built from the document. I seem to remember encountering this problem before, and a Word MVP identified it as a section break, but when I check out how to delete section breaks in Word Help, I'm told simply to select the section break and press Delete. But apparently the line itself cannot be selected, and when I select a block of text spanning it and press Delete, the text goes away but the line remains.
Thanks for your help.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Jun 2007 17:06 GMT Could this line be a border? See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm
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> Hello. Suddenly there has appeared a line at the bottom of one of my pages in > Word 2003. It does not appear in Normal View, but it does appear in Print [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks for your help. Peyton Todd - 28 Jun 2007 19:06 GMT Hi Suzanne. How I wish that turned out to be true. Alas, selecting the paragraph above the line, going to Borders and Shading and choosing None doesn't get rid of the line. (Borders and Shading already said 'None' anyway.)
Also, it doesn't look the same as one of those borders. To test it, I added a paragraph, then some dashes below it and pressed Enter. The line which appeared was darker than the one I'm trying to get rid of, which is gray, and it appeared directly below the paragraph, while the line I'm trying to get rid of is nearly an inch (roughly two lines) below it.
If you turn click the pilcrow tool to see carriage returns, etc., it turns out that there is indeed an extra carriage return (but just one) after the paragraph and before the line (that is: there's the carriage return which ends the paragraph, then another for a blank line. However, when you select the one for the blank line and apply the Borders and Shading = None procedure, it doesn't work for that either.
Other ideas?
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> Could this line be a border? See > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CantGetRidOfLine.htm [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Thanks for your help. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Jun 2007 19:10 GMT Does the line print? Is it a section break? If it's a section break, this will be easier to see in Normal view.
If all else fails, send me the doc (or the disturbing portion of it), and I'll take a look.
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> Hi Suzanne. How I wish that turned out to be true. Alas, selecting the > paragraph above the line, going to Borders and Shading and choosing None [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > > > > Thanks for your help. Peyton Todd - 28 Jun 2007 19:26 GMT I just sent you another message about it, before I received this one from you. In response to this message: Yes, it prints, not only to a real printer, but to the PDF file I'm building from this document, which is what matters. And it must not be a section break, since it does not appear at all in Normal View.
I would love to send you the document, thanks. Where do I send it?
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> Does the line print? Is it a section break? If it's a section break, this > will be easier to see in Normal view. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help. Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Jun 2007 21:01 GMT You can derive my email address by clicking on my name (or something) in the message as you're seeing it--whatever appears to be hyperlinked links to my "profile" (if you were using a real newsreader, you'd see it "in the clear").
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> I just sent you another message about it, before I received this one from > you. In response to this message: Yes, it prints, not only to a real printer, [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help. Peyton Todd - 28 Jun 2007 19:18 GMT Also, when you delete the extra carriage return for the blank line, the offending gray line reaching all the way across the page does not move. It stays where it is, the equivalent of what would be two lines below the paragraph. And when I continue that paragraph by typing extra lines into it, so that it goes on to the next page, the line still stays in place. It even stays there right through the 'orphan control' feature, which moves the last two lines to the next page so there won't be an orphan there, then moves one of them back up as soon as it has enough text to do so. So it seems to belong to the page somehow. The page-ending pilcrow occurs below the line.
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> Hi Suzanne. How I wish that turned out to be true. Alas, selecting the > paragraph above the line, going to Borders and Shading and choosing None [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > > > > Thanks for your help. garfield-n-odie [MVP] - 28 Jun 2007 22:34 GMT My guess is that the line is a footnote separator or a footnote continuation separator possibly left over from incorrectly deleting a footnote on that page. Quoting from Word 2002 Help (which should also apply to Word 2003):
Change or remove a footnote or endnote separator
Microsoft Word separates document text from footnotes and endnotes with a short horizontal line called a note separator. If a note overflows onto the next page, Word prints a longer line called a note continuation separator. You can customize separators by adding borders, text, or graphics.
1. Switch to normal view. 2. On the View menu, click Footnotes. If your document contains both footnotes and endnotes, a message appears. Click "View footnote area" or "View endnote area", and then click OK. 3. In the note pane, click the type of separator you want to change or remove in the "Notes" box: • To change the separator that appears between the document text and notes, click "Footnote separator" or "Endnote separator". • To change the separator for notes that continue from the previous page, click "Footnote continuation separator" or "Endnote continuation separator". 4. Select the separator and make changes: • To remove the separator, press DELETE. • To edit the separator, insert a Clip Art divider line or type text. To restore the default separator, click Reset.
Notes • Note text does not appear with the separator. • To view the continuation separator as it appears in the printed document, click Print Layout View on the horizontal scroll bar. • In the browser, custom note separators appear as short horizontal lines.
> Hello. Suddenly there has appeared a line at the bottom of one of my pages in > Word 2003. It does not appear in Normal View, but it does appear in Print [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks for your help. Peyton Todd - 29 Jun 2007 00:34 GMT You got it! Actually, there was no need for me to get into what footnote separators were being used - it was, quite simply, a footnote which overlapped to the next page. Why? Because it had an extra carriage return at the bottom of it.
Thanks, garfiend-n-oldie!
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> My guess is that the line is a footnote separator or a footnote > continuation separator possibly left over from incorrectly deleting a [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > > Thanks for your help.
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