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MS Office Forum / Word / Page Layout / August 2007Image placement problems
Forgive me for posting this again but I don't ever seem to get a reply to these issues and I would just like to know why. Please let me know if I should be posting this question on another forum or if I should be able to find the solution elsewhere. If there is just no known solution, please state this. Thanks Image wrapping issues 1. Even when I uncheck the move object with text, the image often seems to have a mind of its own and refuses to be placed where I want it. The only way I have found to resolve this is to change the layout to "In front of text", place the image where I want it, and then change the layout back to Tight. Is there some setting I am missing that enables one to place and keep images where I need them to be? This issue is becoming particularly problematic as images two pages earlier seem to move when I change something on a completely different page. 2. If there is a table anywhere close to the image, the image just seems to "jump into" the table. This happens even though I unchecked the "layout in table" setting. The only way I found to resolve this was the same approach as above in 1--changing the layout to in front of text 3. Sometimes the placement of an image causes extra space to appear between lines in a paragraph. Most often this is resolved by tweaking the position of the image or size, but it often forces me to make less--preferred changes to the placement or size of the image or caption. You might start here: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrawingGraphics.htm and consume as much as you have the stomach for:) This is a subject that has been discussed repeatedly in the forums & I guess some of the responders just get tired of rewriting replies to questions that can be answered by a little search effort:)  SignatureHTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Forgive me for posting this again but I don't ever seem to get a reply > to these issues and I would just like to know why. Please let me know [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > less--preferred changes to the placement or size of the image or > caption. Bob; Thanks for your reply. I don't mean to sound argumentative but I do tend to post as a last resort. I searched extensively but the solutions suggested were ones I have already attempted (such as "uncheck move object with text"), and sometimes it is very hard to construct a search for some of the behavior--such as "extra space in paragraph". So if the issue had been addressed, I'm not sure I would have found it. I'm convinced now if I wasn't already that Word is not a pagelayout tool and I will be looking to use Adobe InDesign for future projects, but unfortunately I don't have time or resources to move to that platform for this project. Again, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the reply and I will "look harder" for previous messages on this topic. regards, c > You might start here: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression - merely a possible explanation for the lack of response not intended to chastize:-) Your assessment that Word isn't a page layout program couldn't be more accurate. I'm sure you'll find InD - or even MS Publisher - far more cooperative when it comes to combining text & graphics. They're designed for that purpose whereas Word's layout features are more like "after-thoughts". One main reason I pointed you to that page is the differentiation between InLine & "floating" graphics. Based on your description of the line spacing issue I believe clarification on that will help you resolve that problem. The information there also provides further insight to how Word's "foreign objects" are attached to the *text* in one of those two ways rather than to a "page" - actual pages are a concept with which Word is utterly unfamiliar & unconcerned. SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Bob; > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - Thanks very much for your reply Bob. The website you referenced has a lot of great information and does provide some clarity about how Word graphic objects behave. The graphic in question was inserted as a floating object (I never use inline objects) with the wrapping style set to "tight". (I'm using the Word Manual template and using the extra wide margin to for pictures and other text tips and notes.) I don't think if I understand inline versus floating that I would want an inline picture in this situation or why I would see this extra spacing in the middle of a paragraph with a floating object (Or why it would disappear when I slightly move or resize the graphic). regards, c > Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression - merely a possible explanation for > the lack of response not intended to chastize:-) [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hi Cheryl - I'm afraid this has me a bit perplexed as well because I haven't been able to recreate what I understand the problem to be:( I've tried various text wrapping & settings along with different combinations of Paragraph formatting & Line Spacing and *nothing* caused line gapping within the paragraph. The only thing that even gives that impression is if the graphic is positioned in such a way as to cause a line to split left-right which makes it look like there is an inappropriate amount of space above/below the graphic. Moving the graphic up/down slightly allows the affected line to rejoin similar to what you describe - but that is normal behavior. Also, I'm a bit confused by the parenthetical statement in your last post... Is the graphic in the margin or in the body and where is the affected text relative to the graphic? Is the graphic in a Drawing Canvas? What happens if you cut the graphic, paste it into a text box & set your wrapping style for the text box ... or convert the text box to a Frame? SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Thanks very much for your reply Bob. The website you referenced has a > lot of great information and does provide some clarity about how Word [quoted text clipped - 117 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - Just an update - It does appear that customized line spacing can cause the type of behavior you're seeing. I tried a para of TNR 12 pt with line spacing set to At Least 14 pts and was able to get that type of separation. SignatureHTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Hi Cheryl - > [quoted text clipped - 145 lines] >>> >>> - Show quoted text - Hi Bob; I have not yet tried all of the suggestions but I can answer some of your questions and will come back to the others. There is no special line spacing in the document. It is single- spaced, the body text font is Garamond 12pt. If I am able to replicate the paragraph spacing problem and take a screenshot is there an address I can email it to you? Previously margins were set to 2" for the left margin, which meant a wider picture would be partially outside of the margins but it might jut into the text. Since pictures don't seem to have any "awareness" of the page margin this seems to work to my advantage most of the time. I just decided to make a fairly major change that I think will help and that is to make the layout horizontal (landscape) Now that I switched the layout (this also avoids the messiness of facing pages), I have a 4" margin for the left, which I use for pictures and other margin information like notes and warnings. I think this is going to work much better and the customer is okay with the change. I don't use the drawing canvas-probably because it mystified me when I first saw it and what I read in the online help didn't help me to understand how to use it effectively. I will try the suggestion you mention below. Thanks Cheryl On Aug 17, 12:06 pm, "CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote: > Hi Cheryl - > [quoted text clipped - 149 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I don't think a screen shot would do much good, but here's another option if it isn't a confidential doc (apparently not?): Save a copy - feel free to delete everything that precedes & follows that page. (Include a screen shot if you like.) Zip the resulting file(s) & send it to the address in the message header... Just omit the word "type" and sub the appropriate characters for "at" and "dot" - but be sure to put *only* the following one-time-only string in the Subject field of the email: cg817@3#9 Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/17/07 4:36 PM, in article 1187382969.783003.68530@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com, "news@mlmkc.org" > Hi Bob; > [quoted text clipped - 180 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - I disagree. I think Cheryl hasn't gotten a reply because most of don't feel very confident about such issues. I can barely get graphics to do what *I* want them to do; I don't presume to advise anyone else. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > You might start here: > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > less--preferred changes to the placement or size of the image or > > caption. |
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